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ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 141	Posted - 2013.07.28 13:28:00 - [151] - Quote i argue against it, as much as i would like a respec to get back sp from skills i am no longer able to use effectively i disagree with your post. for a few reasons. why should ccp punish players who didn't use op/unbalanced gear by rewarding people who did respecs so they can spec into the next op/unbalanced gear. its not ccp's problem you used op/unbalanced gear and as such are going to get nerfed. you reaped the rewards of the unbalance for months and now you have to pay for it you only have yourself to blame by dumping everything you had into 1 role. i myself have about 20 different suits/vehicle fits for different roles and situations even specific ones for certain maps. some have been nerfed heavily and others not touched at all yet i fully expect more changes in the future. everyone knows dust is going to be permanently adjusted over and over again and that sticking to 1 role is just a bad idea yet people still do it and cry respec when the inevitable balance happens
Jason Pearson Seraphim Auxiliaries 2214	Posted - 2013.07.28 13:52:00 - [152] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Why did you constantly put more skill levels into an item you hate using? Then why are you hanging out with a corp that doesn't appreciate what you bring to the table? Then why are you wasting your energy asking for a respec instead of asking for balance to include missing items? Because it was originally fine, we expected balancing issues to be fixed not amplified. They don't appreciate it because it's been nerfed into the ground? Example, Tanks, Tankers were key players in CBs, not anymore. Just have one AVer take on all the tanks. Because we ask for balance and CCP says yes, see you in 6 months. Why are you CPM?
Jason Pearson Seraphim Auxiliaries 2214	Posted - 2013.07.28 13:55:00 - [153] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: i argue against it, as much as i would like a respec to get back sp from skills i am no longer able to use effectively i disagree with your post. for a few reasons. why should ccp punish players who didn't use op/unbalanced gear by rewarding people who did respecs so they can spec into the next op/unbalanced gear. its not ccp's problem you used op/unbalanced gear and as such are going to get nerfed. you reaped the rewards of the unbalance for months and now you have to pay for it you only have yourself to blame by dumping everything you had into 1 role. i myself have about 20 different suits/vehicle fits for different roles and situations even specific ones for certain maps. some have been nerfed heavily and others not touched at all yet i fully expect more changes in the future. everyone knows dust is going to be permanently adjusted over and over again and that sticking to 1 role is just a bad idea yet people still do it and cry respec when the inevitable balance happens Claps I would never take you in to a Planetary Conquest battle, simply because you are not specialized. Maybe when you have about 50m SP? But at this moment in time you'd be as useless as someone spec'd into something useless. We play our roles because we expect them to be competitive, not nerfed to **. People always seem to look at this from a pubmatch PoV, but face it, Pub games are ***** shite and useless for balancing, you're always going to get bad players crying about others, because they're using teamwork.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1333	Posted - 2013.07.28 14:10:00 - [154] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: i argue against it, as much as i would like a respec to get back sp from skills i am no longer able to use effectively i disagree with your post. for a few reasons. why should ccp punish players who didn't use op/unbalanced gear by rewarding people who did respecs so they can spec into the next op/unbalanced gear. its not ccp's problem you used op/unbalanced gear and as such are going to get nerfed. you reaped the rewards of the unbalance for months and now you have to pay for it you only have yourself to blame by dumping everything you had into 1 role. i myself have about 20 different suits/vehicle fits for different roles and situations even specific ones for certain maps. some have been nerfed heavily and others not touched at all yet i fully expect more changes in the future. everyone knows dust is going to be permanently adjusted over and over again and that sticking to 1 role is just a bad idea yet people still do it and cry respec when the inevitable balance happens We need to abandon this kind of thinking if we're ever going to be able to take organized corp battles seriously in this game. You know IWS is very similar to do you? He's put one point into every single skill and working on level 2 now. That's cool and all, and good for him, but he will never have a place in PC, which is the only thing still keeping a lot of us here.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 449	Posted - 2013.07.28 14:54:00 - [155] - Quote I'm starting to wonder if all of these tweaking,retweaking,nerfing,and buffing is all done by design to help sell more AUR based items. I have no doubt that devs aren't that insidious to do stuff like that,but is CCP that clever? Makes one take pause.
Aaroniero d'Lioncourt The Southern Legion 3	Posted - 2013.07.28 15:19:00 - [156] - Quote Knightshade Belladonna wrote: This one time, I used to have a front line assault starter fit and that was it... This one time, at band camp.
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 364	Posted - 2013.07.28 15:38:00 - [157] - Quote Xero The Mishima wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Sadly. a motivator in why i stand up to the haters, speds, Devs and derps who vote against respecs. Because iknow first hand what its like to invest time and SP into a class and have it ruined due to balancing. I would gladly respec if i could, to have a fighting chance and be useful again but i cant becuase im doomed to play the mistake CCP gave me. Myslef and others I support it for vehicles but none of those calogis anything but them Lol you support it for HIS case but not everybody elses... WHAT A SURPRISE! A "NF" supporting a "NF"! I would never think of this to happen! What a joke. Good job skilling into something OP and incase you need glasses I ended up agreeing to a respec not just for vehicle users
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 364	Posted - 2013.07.28 15:42:00 - [158] - Quote Glad somebody in "NF" isn't worthless. +1[/quote] Here yo go looking for another fight ill save the community the trouble and not reply to anymore of your posts since no one wants to read them anyways
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 154	Posted - 2013.07.28 15:51:00 - [159] - Quote CCP needs to rework stuff like weapon balance new suits new content and so forth before a respec is ever back on the table IMO scout's Heavy's and pilot's should be the only ones given a partial respec
Klash 816 Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises 38	Posted - 2013.07.28 19:46:00 - [160] - Quote Lol it seems CCP has made everyone think balancing means hitting stuff with the nerf hammer, and that respecs are bad because respecs are bad because respecs are bad because... I personaly well continue to play dust wether we have respecs or not, because I believe that CCP well get the game whole balanced wether we like it or not :) But whatever just my .02isk Klash out~

Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback 649	Posted - 2013.07.29 03:11:00 - [161] - Quote MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote: Cosgar wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Why did you constantly put more skill levels into an item you hate using? Then why are you hanging out with a corp that doesn't appreciate what you bring to the table? Then why are you wasting your energy asking for a respec instead of asking for balance to include missing items? Probably the same reason why even after my optional respec, went back into the Mass Driver, which was bugged, and Minmatar logi, which was lumped up with the CaLogi during everyone's nerf witch hunt. It's something you find fun, like doing, and you have faith in the developers that they'll make things right. If everyone cared more about being effective than having fun, we'd all be running around in shield tanking suits and ARs. Exmaple Core, I've been in the same boat you're in now. Not just with Dust or EVE, but in a lot of online games. Some of us are too stubborn to take the road less traveled with hopes that it pays off in the end. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't, there's no guarantee. The only thing you can really do is think of the good times, or dream of the possible good times around the corner. If you decide to do anything that matters- don't give up. Whether it's too expensive, underpowered, or your peers don't respect what you do, find a way to keep things going- keep the faith and do it because it's what you like doing. "Adapt or Die..." Yea but in those other games would it take you literally months to get into a new weapon or item was it plausible to get them in short order(2 weeks) If the anti-respec crowd want it there way im willing to let them have it but we get NO SP CAP or 3x SP as the base weekly cap UNTIL a TRUE BALANCE is achieved, /thread. No, if you give more SP to ppl everyone will be able to do everything as oppossed to giving respecs so ppl can refine their class, whatever they choose, and be very efficient at one class. Giving everyone an insaine amount of SP reduces the demand for speced players
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 404	Posted - 2013.07.29 04:40:00 - [162] - Quote A free respec will see around 80-90% of players switching to the current FOTM and then demanding another free respec when that gets balance properly. CCP caves now, they'll never stop. EDIT: not in favor of paid respecs either. spec what you love, and the kills will come.
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback 649	Posted - 2013.07.29 05:06:00 - [163] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: A free respec will see around 80-90% of players switching to the current FOTM and then demanding another free respec when that gets balance properly. CCP caves now, they'll never stop. EDIT: not in favor of paid respecs either. spec what you love, and the kills will come. thats what so many of us thought and then our belovid classes were nerfed and we hate the game Exmaple Core wrote: Cat Merc wrote: A reset won't fix anything. Sure, it will even the playfield... FOR NOW. What about in 2-3 months? New players will step in and find themselves and the same situation. So you will do another reset? You respec every few months untill you reach a point were the game is balanced enough for players to temper the game. Its called upkeep checks, attending to your players general interest to play your game even though you treat them like shiet, or fixing the mistakes you made ruining everyones playstyles and cadering to those still wanting to play dust. With all the rebalancing done, comming and will be comming later everyone is extreemly p*ssed off with whats happening to their classes and the SP they spent quiet some time ago now being garbage and unrefundable. People are great one day and their their garbage, shuned by strong corps and excluded in PC because of their class got changed suddenly. Should we all be garbage and just deal with it? No. You respec at reasonable intervals, when needed, so this game is still playable and tolerable. Simply telling everyone to stop playing, being patient, HTFU cuz your screwed or staying silent is killing dust and its playerbase. Compensation is needed to those wrongly afflicted by developer errors
Morrigan Uroboros The Phoenix Federation 18	Posted - 2013.07.29 05:12:00 - [164] - Quote So if I understand it right, CCP want us to focus skilling into one role? Is it me, or is the obvious fix to make the suit skills more like eve? Your looking at 2.5mil sp to max one suit in one role... and as a new player thats a long investment in time with little reward or incentive during the grind from ADV to PRO. But if say we had to get the racial suit to 3 as we do now, and then have the advanced classes such as logi and assault become blanket skills rather than race dependant you would still have the concept of locking into a class, but you open yourself upto the potential to use multiple suits. This stops players being screwed over to a certain degree when the one suit they chose for their class gets nerfed. Obviously theres currently the problem that lights and heavys would currently be left out with this, but once they have their missing suits it could add variety to the game.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 405	Posted - 2013.07.29 05:24:00 - [165] - Quote why is it that what you're using has to be all-powerful for you to have fun? I specced into missile tanks because I like blowing shite up, and the caldari tanks specialize in missiles, which are all about blowing shite up. they were crap when I started, and have since gotten worse. According to everyone here, I should have quit to send a message to CCP. How's about I just keep doing what I like, since I don't need it to be OP to have fun.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 777	Posted - 2013.07.29 05:36:00 - [166] - Quote I have basically stopped playing the game, and doing videos. The whole experience has been a waste of many moons of grinding SP. This community I have found out is not who you know but who you blow.... Too many "big chiefs" running around with titles that I NEVER NEVER see in the game, yet represent out best interests..... I do not believe the forums are even related to the actual game anymore, or the interest of the daily player
Aythadis Smith The Generals EoN. 109	Posted - 2013.07.29 05:37:00 - [167] - Quote I specced into too much. I seen the down fall of shields, but before I dumped my whole lot into it. FROM THE INITIAL RESPEC. From Chrome to here. So I dabbled back into my scout suit. Iffy results, then spent a few into a Gal Assault suit, again kinda iffy. So far, I still play PC ( when MY time permits), and still turn a profit. I'm not even running proto suits yet and still working fine. Look, try new things, here and there. Check out the MLT fit first, find one you like, and slowly spec into it. Nothing is definitive in this game, let alone the company. We all knew this. You just had to Google "CCP" and probably see "NERF and BUFF Champions and still reigning" I'm no special kitten here, but... if my scrubby butt can learn a new trick, I think an old vet like yourself can do the same. Maybe if something is grossly UP, start a thread, which ( tankers and scouts) have, and at least a comment from a DEV. I don't have a magic crystal ball that will tell me the next nerf is coming, but I can tell you it is a matter of "when".
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback 649	Posted - 2013.07.29 05:38:00 - [168] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: why is it that what you're using has to be all-powerful for you to have fun? I specced into missile tanks because I like blowing shite up, and the caldari tanks specialize in missiles, which are all about blowing shite up. they were crap when I started, and have since gotten worse. According to everyone here, I should have quit to send a message to CCP. How's about I just keep doing what I like, since I don't need it to be OP to have fun. OP? we want balance, and 99% of all FPS players dont want to be nonn factors, your the 1%. 100% of ppl dont want their class to be nerfed and be told to deal with it
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback 649	Posted - 2013.07.29 05:46:00 - [169] - Quote Aythadis Smith wrote: I specced into too much. I seen the down fall of shields, but before I dumped my whole lot into it. FROM THE INITIAL RESPEC. From Chrome to here. So I dabbled back into my scout suit. Iffy results, then spent a few into a Gal Assault suit, again kinda iffy. So far, I still play PC ( when MY time permits), and still turn a profit. I'm not even running proto suits yet and still working fine. Look, try new things, here and there. Check out the MLT fit first, find one you like, and slowly spec into it. Nothing is definitive in this game, let alone the company. We all knew this. You just had to Google "CCP" and probably see "NERF and BUFF Champions and still reigning" I'm no special kitten here, but... if my scrubby butt can learn a new trick, I think an old vet like yourself can do the same. Maybe if something is grossly UP, start a thread, which ( tankers and scouts) have, and at least a comment from a DEV. I don't have a magic crystal ball that will tell me the next nerf is coming, but I can tell you it is a matter of "when". Sounds like your talking to noobs who picked up the game last week. Weve tried to make balance changes sence the week chromosome started, look whats happened so far. Nerfed classes and ppl quiting the game bcuz you cant recover for many months after your class of millions of SP is ruined. Yes, we have many more balancing nerfs and buffs comming. We will have many more players leaving if they can not respec out of them when it happens
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1345	Posted - 2013.07.29 05:51:00 - [170] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: I have basically stopped playing the game, and doing videos. The whole experience has been a waste of many moons of grinding SP. This community I have found out is not who you know but who you blow.... Too many "big chiefs" running around with titles that I NEVER NEVER see in the game, yet represent our best interests..... I do not believe the forums are even related to the actual game anymore, or the interest of the daily player Sad to see you go lowrate, I think a lot of us are right behind you... Post QFT... All so pathetically true.

Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 406	Posted - 2013.07.29 05:53:00 - [171] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: why is it that what you're using has to be all-powerful for you to have fun? I specced into missile tanks because I like blowing shite up, and the caldari tanks specialize in missiles, which are all about blowing shite up. they were crap when I started, and have since gotten worse. According to everyone here, I should have quit to send a message to CCP. How's about I just keep doing what I like, since I don't need it to be OP to have fun. OP? we want balance, and 99% of all FPS players dont want to be nonn factors, your the 1%. 100% of ppl dont want their class to be nerfed and be told to deal with it No. you want the balance to be in your favor. The second it isn't you throw up a huge shitstorm and act like you speak for everyone, making up statistics to support your views.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 780	Posted - 2013.07.29 05:53:00 - [172] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: lowratehitman wrote: I have basically stopped playing the game, and doing videos. The whole experience has been a waste of many moons of grinding SP. This community I have found out is not who you know but who you blow.... Too many "big chiefs" running around with titles that I NEVER NEVER see in the game, yet represent our best interests..... I do not believe the forums are even related to the actual game anymore, or the interest of the daily player Sad to see you go lowrate, I think a lot of us are right behind you... Post QFT... All so pathetically true. I still get on perhaps 1-2 hr per week vs the 40+ hrs a weeks I was sinking into the game. I have not and will not spend anymore money on boosters or anything like that, and have not for awhile now.
dday3six Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 127	Posted - 2013.07.29 05:54:00 - [173] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote: Cosgar wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Why did you constantly put more skill levels into an item you hate using? Then why are you hanging out with a corp that doesn't appreciate what you bring to the table? Then why are you wasting your energy asking for a respec instead of asking for balance to include missing items? Probably the same reason why even after my optional respec, went back into the Mass Driver, which was bugged, and Minmatar logi, which was lumped up with the CaLogi during everyone's nerf witch hunt. It's something you find fun, like doing, and you have faith in the developers that they'll make things right. If everyone cared more about being effective than having fun, we'd all be running around in shield tanking suits and ARs. Exmaple Core, I've been in the same boat you're in now. Not just with Dust or EVE, but in a lot of online games. Some of us are too stubborn to take the road less traveled with hopes that it pays off in the end. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't, there's no guarantee. The only thing you can really do is think of the good times, or dream of the possible good times around the corner. If you decide to do anything that matters- don't give up. Whether it's too expensive, underpowered, or your peers don't respect what you do, find a way to keep things going- keep the faith and do it because it's what you like doing. "Adapt or Die..." Yea but in those other games would it take you literally months to get into a new weapon or item was it plausible to get them in short order(2 weeks) If the anti-respec crowd want it there way im willing to let them have it but we get NO SP CAP or 3x SP as the base weekly cap UNTIL a TRUE BALANCE is achieved, /thread. No, if you give more SP to ppl everyone will be able to do everything as oppossed to giving respecs so ppl can refine their class, whatever they choose, and be very efficient at one class. Giving everyone an insaine amount of SP reduces the demand for speced players IMO, the biggest issue with SP, the skilltree, and the grind is that everything is designed around maximizing revenue. It's built ground up to sell AUR. Dust is strangely lacking the most common cash items of other F2P business models which are character and home customizations, and because of this the game has more aspects which revolve around selling cash items.
Grief PK DUST University Ivy League 21	Posted - 2013.07.29 05:57:00 - [174] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Why did you constantly put more skill levels into an item you hate using? Then why are you hanging out with a corp that doesn't appreciate what you bring to the table? Then why are you wasting your energy asking for a respec instead of asking for balance to include missing items? Are these serious questions or troll?
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1346	Posted - 2013.07.29 05:58:00 - [175] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: lowratehitman wrote: I have basically stopped playing the game, and doing videos. The whole experience has been a waste of many moons of grinding SP. This community I have found out is not who you know but who you blow.... Too many "big chiefs" running around with titles that I NEVER NEVER see in the game, yet represent our best interests..... I do not believe the forums are even related to the actual game anymore, or the interest of the daily player Sad to see you go lowrate, I think a lot of us are right behind you... Post QFT... All so pathetically true. I still get on perhaps 1-2 hr per week vs the 40+ hrs a weeks I was sinking into the game. I have not and will not spend anymore money on boosters or anything like that, and have not for awhile now. Same, Oceania afk farming till cap... Then a few PC matches.. And that's it. But I'm sadly struggling to even afk farm anymore... Haven't bought a merc pack since chrome...
Grief PK DUST University Ivy League 22	Posted - 2013.07.29 06:02:00 - [176] - Quote Balance issues are part of every game throughout its entire life cycle. There is never a game that is 100% balanced 100% of the time. We know this so why weigh it so heavily in the argument. The reality is that its about time. Balance aside, when I respect I am not respecing SP, I am respecing hundreds of hours of my life. So knowing that balance will always be ... out of balance. Allow players to ebbe and flow with it instead of feeling caged by their SP and their by devaluing the hours of their life spent earning it.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 782	Posted - 2013.07.29 06:02:00 - [177] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: lowratehitman wrote: I have basically stopped playing the game, and doing videos. The whole experience has been a waste of many moons of grinding SP. This community I have found out is not who you know but who you blow.... Too many "big chiefs" running around with titles that I NEVER NEVER see in the game, yet represent our best interests..... I do not believe the forums are even related to the actual game anymore, or the interest of the daily player Sad to see you go lowrate, I think a lot of us are right behind you... Post QFT... All so pathetically true. I still get on perhaps 1-2 hr per week vs the 40+ hrs a weeks I was sinking into the game. I have not and will not spend anymore money on boosters or anything like that, and have not for awhile now. Damn.. I threw 40 + hrs a week out there like it is NOTHING... haha. I have a new game I have been playing that treats my time spent grinding much better. So it would be unfair of me to say it is CCP's fault that I have not played as much. A few things such as how the CPM was chosen, being how they was the ones supposed to represent us, and I know at least one of them could not even hold a full time job let alone represent a army of nerds. I have seen favoritism for people not that I myself wanted anything yet only for my voice and opinion to be equal to that of the next mans. Perhaps I will finally break down and do a final video where I just let it all rip and I can get flamed for being mean and for lying on people. After all DUST 514 made my channel, before dust I had 300 friends, but I am comfortable with losing all if it means me speaking my mind and my truth.... I am done ranting, you guys take care...
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 782	Posted - 2013.07.29 06:03:00 - [178] - Quote Grief PK wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Why did you constantly put more skill levels into an item you hate using? Then why are you hanging out with a corp that doesn't appreciate what you bring to the table? Then why are you wasting your energy asking for a respec instead of asking for balance to include missing items? Are these serious questions or troll? That is one of the people that was chosen to represent you and your ideas...no offense
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 407	Posted - 2013.07.29 06:04:00 - [179] - Quote Grief PK wrote: Balance issues are part of every game throughout its entire life cycle. There is never a game that is 100% balanced 100% of the time. We know this so why weigh it so heavily in the argument. The reality is that its about time. Balance aside, when I respect I am not respecing SP, I am respecing hundreds of hours of my life. So knowing that balance will always be ... out of balance. Allow players to ebbe and flow with it instead of feeling caged by their SP and their by devaluing the hours of their life spent earning it. yes, because everyone should only ever run what is FOTM. all others are scrubs and "nonn factors" right? NOTE: The quotation marks are from what Exmaple called me a few posts ago.
Grief PK DUST University Ivy League 22	Posted - 2013.07.29 06:04:00 - [180] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: lowratehitman wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: lowratehitman wrote: I have basically stopped playing the game, and doing videos. The whole experience has been a waste of many moons of grinding SP. This community I have found out is not who you know but who you blow.... Too many "big chiefs" running around with titles that I NEVER NEVER see in the game, yet represent our best interests..... I do not believe the forums are even related to the actual game anymore, or the interest of the daily player Sad to see you go lowrate, I think a lot of us are right behind you... Post QFT... All so pathetically true. I still get on perhaps 1-2 hr per week vs the 40+ hrs a weeks I was sinking into the game. I have not and will not spend anymore money on boosters or anything like that, and have not for awhile now. Same, Oceania afk farming till cap... Then a few PC matches.. And that's it. But I'm sadly struggling to even afk farm anymore... Haven't bought a merc pack since chrome... I think if they fix afk farming pubmatches we will loose a huge amount of the weekly player base. It just wont be worth the time sink to spend the hours into permanent skill tree.



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