This... we're not at a point where there is permanence in your decisions, as the classes change all of the time.

And there is a distinct difference between enjoying your time as a non factor in an npc corp derping in pub matches and wanting to be an integral part of a corp participating in high level corp matches.

I'm seriously starting to think... if you play competitively, you're best off just quitting. Maybe come back in a year or two once its on the PS4 and somewhat balanced with most of the missing basic content finally added in. By then im sure a respec will have been issue, and you can come back to 30-40 million unallocated SP.

yeah your right. Why play now when your getting screwed over when you can be rewarded for not playing at all and come back later? deffenetly how dust is supposed to be played. Its sad that CCP is endorsing this way of thinking by nerfing the classes we play so we cant win, and forcing us to stay in them for months. A shame, i once enjoyed dust. back when i was good... btw check out my post were i qouted that dude above yours. Hes prolly off crying somewere

yeah your right. Why play now when your getting screwed over when you can be rewarded for not playing at all and come back later? deffenetly how dust is supposed to be played. Its sad that CCP is endorsing this way of thinking by nerfing the classes we play so we cant win, and forcing us to stay in them for months. A shame, i once enjoyed dust. back when i was good... btw check out my post were i qouted that dude above yours. Hes prolly off crying somewere

. A shame, i once enjoyed dust. back when i was good...

Spec into what you love using, but first ask yourself,

"Do I love this setup because I kill a lot of people, or do I love this setup because I'd have fun even if it kept me from being the deadliest shot on the field?"

Invest in core skills, and you'll never go wrong.

Guess I fall into the "I already have two jobs, why do I need three" crowd. I don't need to be the best as I play a specialized role to my friends. "that psychopath who can occasionally break a siege on nothing but flanking, a militia shotgun, and pure, batshit insanity."

EDIT: See Maple, you don't want a respec to try something new, you just want it to you can stomp in the current "best" version of what you do already. FOTM chasing. When tanks get nerfed again in 6 months(since they're taking out the bug that makes armor tanks repair ultra-fast SOONtm) Will you be demanding another respec so you can switch back to shields since they will have a slight edge then?

Honestly, if you'd saved your sp since you specced into tanks and started saving almost what 2 months ago...you could have made 5 mill sp in that time, enough sp to run a protosuit and protoweapon and be competitive. I rather miss you out of tanks and in that lol caldari logi you used to run so well.

Please point out were i said im after the "current best version" of anything? Im after classes i can compete in and enjoy at the same time, i cant do that in a class that gets blown up by everything in the game and cost me all my isk, because my class sucks. Do i win? yeah, sometimes but i loose even more often than that, being held back by a class that was nerfed. Blowing up and loosing over and over is not a class i can win with, or enjoy. In fact, if i could respec i would switch back into the scout shotty. Its not the best class in the world but im good with it, i enjoy it and most importantly, it is balanced enough to compete. I could enjoy dust again if i was able to play a class that has the ability to compete and something i like. Same gos for pretty much everyone

you must have the wrong person, i never went cal logi, ive always been heavy, scout or tank. If i wouldve saved all my SP then i would never have been playing because i wouldent have any gear... lol. Thats a crazy suggestion, if i have no spent SP then i wouldent be in PC or having fun in dust. Waiting to play video games is not how you play video games...

Hmmm..

I coulda sworn I have video's of you post uprising in a yellow suit with a shotgun and core locus owning fools.
But anyhoo

You mentioned to me when you got your respec you put 14.4 mill sp into tanks. I had about 13.5 at the time. I now have 19.8 mill sp. What i'm suggesting is that you've been complaining about this for 2 months since you got the respec, why haven't you saved the about 6 mill potential and placed it into a different role? You failed to understand the intent of my first post so I hope this one clarifies it. ^_^

Hmmm..

I coulda sworn I have video's of you post uprising in a yellow suit with a shotgun and core locus owning fools.
But anyhoo

You mentioned to me when you got your respec you put 14.4 mill sp into tanks. I had about 13.5 at the time. I now have 19.8 mill sp. What i'm suggesting is that you've been complaining about this for 2 months since you got the respec, why haven't you saved the about 6 mill potential and placed it into a different role? You failed to understand the intent of my first post so I hope this one clarifies it. ^_^

No you do not sir, post the videos up and you will see me as a scout shotty P: because i dumped another 2 mill SP into that poor excuse of a tank and then i started specing into heavy so i could have a hardy fit to protect my tank were it was needed. sence then ive been skilling back into scout and i jus now got my proto basic suit with a few core skills

No you do not sir, post the videos up and you will see me as a scout shotty P: because i dumped another 2 mill SP into that poor excuse of a tank and then i started specing into heavy so i could have a hardy fit to protect my tank were it was needed. sence then ive been skilling back into scout and i jus now got my proto basic suit with a few core skills. If i could respec i would get out of this half track and play a class i enjoy and effectively compete in. Same for many other ppl

Welp, good luck! Yeah, I'd have had a nice protosuit with 6 mill sp...keep trucking it dude! Oh, and I hear respecs when they redo the dropsuit bonus's, something about everything being changed so respec time for everyone :P

I break sieges with nothing but militia. to kill with each shell, and pelt a heavy with a perfectly cooked grenade right in his/her(can't tell on the field) soft bits. I lead the charge and the protos come in after. It's not all gear, some of it is just knowing the situation, and doing the unexpected.

My enjoyment comes from seeing a proto die and knowing that I won with inferior gear.

Sorry that you need to have better to do better. I'm used to doing more with less.

in pubs... lol. You will not be brought to any serious endevor in dust with milita gear. Js

That's what we need. CCP to remake the game again, try to rebalance again, read every respec and QQ balance thread again and be mocked by some armchair game developer again. We need a new game like we need a bigger blast radius on a flaylock.

Allowing respecs is not going to do anything for the game except cause more problems because the data from the previous day will change because I like a shotgun more today than yesterday. I still haven't heard one good reason - barring missing suits and vehicles - that warrants respecs. The reasons I see are usually short sighted and do not address the problems the game actually has.

Player retention is bad because this is not a game you can be l33t at in a day. The learning curve is steep and choices do effect how you play. Gamers are not used to the idea of persistence and it flies in the face of every other game fps players play. The grind mentality hurts the player base and causes burn out very quickly. Stagnation due to lack of content and low numbers. CCP does things differently when compared to the other game developers and it comes off as them ignoring us, not listening or general ineptness. Not one of these problems will be solved by giving back SP, we will be in the same spot in one month or less and I will have to thumb out this diatribe almost verbatim.

Play the game for fun and not for SP. Play the game you want to play and not for what is best. Don't grind. I know this sounds stupid but RP some because it does add to the experience. Come to the forums to provide feedback but don't let them pull you down under the bridge. PLAY OTHER GAMES because games are supposed to be fun not a source of stress.