No, actually proto CPU upgrades cost the same SP no matter what suit you run. Are you willing to downgrade or stack CPU upgrades? Or wait till the greater rebalance that will likely render all of these complaints moot?

Your just not getting it, guess my expectations are just too high..

I would like to take a minute and make a few suggestions for other changes in upcoming patches to help "balance" the game..

First lets start with those darn heavies. They just take too many bullets to kill.. I say we should reduce their shields and armor to match those of the Minmatar assault suits and slow down their rate of fire by 20%.. That should fix those guys..

Now lets move on to the assault suits.. I firmly believe they should all carry a sidearm only and be limited to only 1 grenade that should be more than enough for those guys to work with..

Ok, as i said before those spry little shotgun scout need to slow it down a bit, They are nearly impossible to run over and even harder to hit with your riflebutt... Fixed!

How bout those pesky Flaylocks and Massdrivers... I have just the thing for those too.. How bouit if you fire your weapon within 5m of the intended target, Not only will the enemy receive no damage whatsoever, but you and any of your teammates within a 10m radius will be vaporized into a fine pink DUST.. Hot Dam, its gettin good now


The LAV's need an obvious boost in speed and handling, maybe some fatter tires as well as an onboard navigation unit with Ipod dock... Yea, now we are talking ..

And last, but certainly not least, absolutely NO respecs for anyone!

Exmaple.

Doesn't matter now. OMS was removed from the queue this morning.

This game is officially dying.

Jump ship dude, I hear there are still a few lifeboats left over that way ~~~> they lead to the ps4

Watching CCP kill Dust all by itself is amazing. Why did you bring this game on console since you have no clue how the console community reacts.

Stop developing on the PS3 put Dust on PC. It's obvious you don't want this market. Your Eve PC ways of doing things don't work here. I love you CCP for Eve, but the Eve mentality will not work on console.
Repecs would save you so many headaches but you refuse to bend cuz if the EVE policy.

You will be left the EVE players in the end if you continue on this path of destruction.

Fixed ill jump intime, I like to make close calls they're more fun

You all know that this weak sauce cry baby ***t has lead to us losing something I paid for and after a hard core nerf nothing is offered? Dude the day Destiny touches down infinite diversity will get the delete button. These people are stupid if they think that they can take my money for boosters, and my money for the elite packs and my AURUM for things like fuse locus grenades which combined with my cpu reduction on my logi I can't even run, and I purchased 3000 of them, this is criminal, I am not even being offered an Aur refund? Who is advising you on your business model? Do you really think I will be retained as a customer? Do you think I will spend another 100 dollars on you? No, I will spend it on the game that doesn't change my entire setup on the whims of the owned....... I mean really I can't have my Aur back? You can't buy back these 3 thousand useless grenades? Ccp you are super fails, I believed in you I purchased your product and was ripped off......RRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

damnn. Would an SP reset change your disposition any?

Absolutely, that was my request, hell just giving me the aur back I spent on 3000 fused grenades would be great, my help ticket was denied promptly.

You all know that this weak sauce cry baby ***t has lead to us losing something I paid for and after a hard core nerf nothing is offered? Dude the day Destiny touches down infinite diversity will get the delete button. These people are stupid if they think that they can take my money for boosters, and my money for the elite packs and my AURUM for things like fuse locus grenades which combined with my cpu reduction on my logi I can't even run, and I purchased 3000 of them, this is criminal, I am not even being offered an Aur refund? Who is advising you on your business model? Do you really think I will be retained as a customer? Do you think I will spend another 100 dollars on you? No, I will spend it on the game that doesn't change my entire setup on the whims of the owned....... I mean really I can't have my Aur back? You can't buy back these 3 thousand useless grenades? Ccp you are super fails, I believed in you I purchased your product and was ripped off......RRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

So it will be great if you could respec out of your nerfed class and once again have the fun youve been lacking, and instead lack only the frustration of having a nerfed class. right? with a respec you could play a more viable class and have fun playing dust. right?

So if everyone got their respec requests granted along with this guy, they could all spec into the same thing he does.

Great, since we're all clones let's all look alike too.

Everyone using the same thing = balance, right?

Everyone runs an AR anyways. And besides, you see his post, his class sucks and he can no longer compete because of his class getting nerfed. Its better he respec and go into another class, even if its played by everyone, than having to stay his pathetic class and be a non factor as he hates playing dust

Everyone runs AR -> Look at all the Flaylock QQ's, Forge QQ's, tanker QQ's etc.

Sure, AR is the most common weapon, and to be honest I don't see too much of a problem with that since it's a staple in most FPS games and versatile but not particularly excelling in any particular role.

Look at his post? -> Look at his fit. Tell me he was using the logi suit as a logi focused on supporting his teammates.

He decided to use logi suit as an assault suit, and even after nerf, still wants to use it as one. The mentality of this kind of player is equivalent to someone walking in straight line, a wall shows up in his way eventually, and said person walking repeatedly into that wall wondering what has happened.

Absolutely, that was my request, hell just giving me the aur back I spent on 3000 fused grenades would be great, my help ticket was denied promptly.

You are right. But he gos on to say he cant even deck it out as a logi. Also, his class was made to be an assault and a logi. OP? yes, but his class was changed to make a new role, whatever that is cuz aperantly nethire is viable, but he cant play it like an assault anymore, his class was changed from its original standing point. He should be respeced, he is not enjoying the change to his class, or dust anymore

He says he can't deck it out as a logi, despite the countless replies saying that he should use it as a logi suit, which he disregards anyway? You're agreeing with that kind of response?

His class was NOT made to be an assault and a logi. The logistics suit was meant to be more of a supporting suit, and the equipment slots allow for more flexibility. It was never meant to be Assault suit + 2 equipment slots. Your point that his class was changed doesn't stand, because the logi suit itself was adjusted, but it still performs it basic function. The reason why people can't fit their equipment on them, if you check the fit, was because he fitted a shield tanked suit with 2 damage mods which are fittings intensive. Most likely (haven't check the fittings myself) a proto weapon etc.

And you're partially wrong there. He can still play it as an assault. Is it less effective than an actual assault? Well, of course it is, since it's actually called 'Logistics' rather than 'Assault'.

If he chose to spec into something OP, rather than because he enjoyed that weapon/dropsuit/role, then giving someone like him multiple respecs a year will make no difference to the forum whining:
Respec 1: New FOTM
CCP balancing
Forum whining

Respec 2: New FOTM
CCP balancing
Forum whing

etc.

Do you see where I'm going with this?

Yes but what you don't see is that this is about ccp losing customers, in doing so they have simultaneously nerfed many things the best killers in the game own with, check the top 1000 players and see how many use core flaylock, cal logi, fused/contact grenade, you will find that many do. While ccp has found it difficult to retain new players they found it necessary to drive top tier players away, after all you have so many more sp than post beta players, once you have at least thinned the herd it will become easier to get new players to stay. The next thing is the logis will have the built in repair bonus removed, this is why the amarr gained their low slot, they will soon need to use an armor repair module, this change will effectively make these suits combat ineffective.

He says he can't deck it out as a logi, despite the countless replies saying that he should use it as a logi suit, which he disregards anyway? You're agreeing with that kind of response?

His class was NOT made to be an assault and a logi. The logistics suit was meant to be more of a supporting suit, and the equipment slots allow for more flexibility. It was never meant to be Assault suit + 2 equipment slots. Your point that his class was changed doesn't stand, because the logi suit itself was adjusted, but it still performs it basic function. The reason why people can't fit their equipment on them, if you check the fit, was because he fitted a shield tanked suit with 2 damage mods which are fittings intensive. Most likely (haven't check the fittings myself) a proto weapon etc.

And you're partially wrong there. He can still play it as an assault. Is it less effective than an actual assault? Well, of course it is, since it's actually called 'Logistics' rather than 'Assault'.

If he chose to spec into something OP, rather than because he enjoyed that weapon/dropsuit/role, then giving someone like him multiple respecs a year will make no difference to the forum whining:
Respec 1: New FOTM
CCP balancing
Forum whining

Respec 2: New FOTM
CCP balancing
Forum whing

etc.

Do you see where I'm going with this?

Also iam tired of hearing these simpletons tlk about a role. This is something someoen else said and everyone jumps on a band wagon with. There is no role, there is only ability. No one cries on these forums about the proto sentinel sniper, assault rifle scout, logi anti vehicle, heavy dropship pilot, no one cries when another assault is using a rep tool on a heavy, this is not about roles, you ladies are crying because you get shot in the face over and over and over, to you its about failing, to ccp its about customers, new ones not old, and to us ALL it should be about ccp changing a dominant build that became to good, and it was changed inspite of consideration for those who spent money and time for sp on them, it should concern you all as a practice. You see I am just as upset about nerfing flaylocks though I don't use them, as I am about contact grenades which I use, but I understand unlike ccp who apparently doesn't play their own game very often, that both of these items increased as a balance to one another, because all we had to do was throw 2 fused grenades to end the core flaylock, simple direct balance, and yet becausenwe used thesenitems more then less they got nerfed, and you believe that? It just happened to coincide with the most successful combat suit being nerfed as well, and you believed that? Peak play time is about 40 thousand now and dropping everyday and you believed that? Full games harder to find? Matches half over more and more often when you enter the server, they decided to join ambush and oms together now and you still don't see that there is a floundering vessel listing to port throwing men overboard as it try to right it self? Fool!!!! Wake up.

Everyone runs AR -> Look at all the Flaylock QQ's, Forge QQ's, tanker QQ's etc.

Sure, AR is the most common weapon, and to be honest I don't see too much of a problem with that since it's a staple in most FPS games and versatile but not particularly excelling in any particular role.

Look at his post? -> Look at his fit. Tell me he was using the logi suit as a logi focused on supporting his teammates.

He decided to use logi suit as an assault suit, and even after nerf, still wants to use it as one. The mentality of this kind of player is equivalent to someone walking in straight line, a wall shows up in his way eventually, and said person walking repeatedly into that wall wondering what has happened.

You play a properly balanced, fair and fun class. Liking the class, you dump all 15 mill SP to your name into the class. Suddenly, new build/patch comes around and your class is nerfed without your consent and you now suck at the game. You spawn in your proto suit or your vehical and you are killed over and over, loosing all your ISK. You are told you can not play PC because the one class you are good at, sucks. Nobody wants you in any serious endeavor in dust because your class is nerfed to the point of uselessness. Like current shield tanks, dropships, lazers, plasma cannons and soon to be armor tanks when they fix the bug that is causing them to be balanced. You no longer want to play dust, as the class you played is ruined and so is your ability to enjoy playing dust, because the developers ruined the class you speced into. CCP later anounes that they will not be fixing your class for many months and they ask you to accept their most sincere apologies, despite changing the class that you speced into many months beforehand. Should you get a respec? This happened to the classes mentioned previously and will happen again when the fix the armor tanks