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ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1354	Posted - 2013.07.29 18:11:00 - [301] - Quote Stands Alone wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: There is no 'think before you spend your SP'... its 'try your best to predict the future before you spend your SP'. is that not thinking? yeah I'll concede that. Its a terrible way to treat your player base though imo.
Egypt Musk A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 0	Posted - 2013.07.29 18:15:00 - [302] - Quote Grief PK wrote: Almost 300 post in a single night, over 1500 views in that same night ... I bet we put a big spike in CCP's forum statistics tracking! Are you checking the numbers CCP, the community is telling you something! +1
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 752	Posted - 2013.07.29 18:16:00 - [303] - Quote Egypt Musk wrote: Grief PK wrote: Almost 300 post in a single night, over 1500 views in that same night ... I bet we put a big spike in CCP's forum statistics tracking! Are you checking the numbers CCP, the community is telling you something! +1 Ye we are Dont give out respecs like candy because of FOTM players
Brolaire of Asstoria Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 80	Posted - 2013.07.29 18:20:00 - [304] - Quote Grief PK wrote: Almost 300 post in a single night, over 1500 views in that same night ... I bet we put a big spike in CCP's forum statistics tracking! Are you checking the numbers CCP, the community is telling you something! Still only a fraction of what little community we have currently and I've seen nothing in here that any of the other million of these respec threads hasn't hashed out and droned on about over and over. No respec....Just No!
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1354	Posted - 2013.07.29 18:27:00 - [305] - Quote Sadly... this whole thread probably doesn't matter at all. I doubt CCP could/would develop a system to implement respecs before 1.5... at which point they will have done a pass at both infantry and vehicle balancing. I would be very surprised if they don't offer a respec for 1.5 after they have done these changes.
Brolaire of Asstoria Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 81	Posted - 2013.07.29 18:56:00 - [306] - Quote While I'm all against it for the moment I do realise that there probably is one coming at some stage and if the vehicle and infantry passes they are planning go according to plan then after that "balancing" would seem like that most logical time. This is gonna keep coming up though...if we are all still here in 2 years ill bet we will still have at least 9 of these threads constantly on the go. It would be interesting to see what the forum numbers are in ref to being for or against another respec A referendum/vote of sorts perhaps??
dday3six Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 134	Posted - 2013.07.29 19:25:00 - [307] - Quote Stands Alone wrote: I think those of you who mention quitting, should stop making threats and just quit. Eve grew at a very slow pace, even though millions have tried and quit. but CCP kept it going, and now there is nothing to compare to the magnitude of what heppens in Eve. in fact, they just made BBC news today. I know plenty of people who like this "adapt or die" about Dust, how you will not get a respec, to think ahead before you invest SP on whether you are investing it on yourself, or investing it into you K/D ratio... they have a small team, they aren't a giant corporation. they dont need a huge amount of players to pay to keep operating... BF does, COD does, Halo does, but not Dust... there is like 10% of the team that those companies have working on dust... you can keep telling yourself that they will not make enough to keep dust going but they will... you can keep saying that all the players will leave, but they wont. there will always be the ones who are curious to see where it goes, and there will always be the ones who know where its going... This is not a just a mindless FPS. this is a thinking man's game, and it will remain that way. its not my fault if you didnt think ahead and chose the "best" weapon or suit at the time. you didnt think ahead to the consequences of using that too your advantage.... shoulda invest SP into yourself and not your K/D I'll let you in on a little secret. Some of the most adamant anti-respec voices have threatened to quit both Dust and Eve if respecs were added to Dust. Would you say the same to them, "Just quit already!" or would you be a little more understanding because their position aligns better with your own? The question is not how many people you know who like adapt or die etc, but rather how many people do you know who are willing to support Dust by actually spending money on cash items on a continual basis. Dust has no sub fees to keep it afloat, which is a stark comparison to Eve. A desire to have a positive KDR in a game which tracks it, has leaderboards with that metric, rewards you based on it with ISK and SP, is wrong? Sure.... I hate to break it to you, but neither your point of view or the point of view of someone who is concerned about their KDR is wrong. It's just different, and if you only want to play with players who sure your absolute opinion, considering how your telling those who don't to just quit, prepare for a lonely gaming expierence.
Stands Alone Ultramarine Corp 42	Posted - 2013.07.29 19:38:00 - [308] - Quote dday3six wrote: Stands Alone wrote: I think those of you who mention quitting, should stop making threats and just quit. Eve grew at a very slow pace, even though millions have tried and quit. but CCP kept it going, and now there is nothing to compare to the magnitude of what heppens in Eve. in fact, they just made BBC news today. I know plenty of people who like this "adapt or die" about Dust, how you will not get a respec, to think ahead before you invest SP on whether you are investing it on yourself, or investing it into you K/D ratio... they have a small team, they aren't a giant corporation. they dont need a huge amount of players to pay to keep operating... BF does, COD does, Halo does, but not Dust... there is like 10% of the team that those companies have working on dust... you can keep telling yourself that they will not make enough to keep dust going but they will... you can keep saying that all the players will leave, but they wont. there will always be the ones who are curious to see where it goes, and there will always be the ones who know where its going... This is not a just a mindless FPS. this is a thinking man's game, and it will remain that way. its not my fault if you didnt think ahead and chose the "best" weapon or suit at the time. you didnt think ahead to the consequences of using that too your advantage.... shoulda invest SP into yourself and not your K/D I'll let you in on a little secret. Some of the most adamant anti-respec voices have threatened to quit both Dust and Eve if respecs were added to Dust. Would you say the same to them, "Just quit already!" or would you be a little more understanding because their position aligns better with your own? The question is not how many people you know who like adapt or die etc, but rather how many people do you know who are willing to support Dust by actually spending money on cash items on a continual basis. Dust has no sub fees to keep it afloat, which is a stark comparison to Eve. A desire to have a positive KDR in a game which tracks it, has leaderboards with that metric, rewards you based on it with ISK and SP, is wrong? Sure.... I hate to break it to you, but neither your point of view or the point of view of someone who is concerned about their KDR is wrong. It's just different, and if you only want to play with players who share your absolute opinion, considering how your telling those who don't to just quit, prepare for a lonely gaming expierence. ok... i will... i think ill live, and so will all the people i play with, who enjoy the way CCP works... stop threatening... just do it... come back later.... or dont... someone else will take your position
dday3six Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 135	Posted - 2013.07.29 19:50:00 - [309] - Quote Stands Alone wrote: dday3six wrote: Stands Alone wrote: I think those of you who mention quitting, should stop making threats and just quit. Eve grew at a very slow pace, even though millions have tried and quit. but CCP kept it going, and now there is nothing to compare to the magnitude of what heppens in Eve. in fact, they just made BBC news today. I know plenty of people who like this "adapt or die" about Dust, how you will not get a respec, to think ahead before you invest SP on whether you are investing it on yourself, or investing it into you K/D ratio... they have a small team, they aren't a giant corporation. they dont need a huge amount of players to pay to keep operating... BF does, COD does, Halo does, but not Dust... there is like 10% of the team that those companies have working on dust... you can keep telling yourself that they will not make enough to keep dust going but they will... you can keep saying that all the players will leave, but they wont. there will always be the ones who are curious to see where it goes, and there will always be the ones who know where its going... This is not a just a mindless FPS. this is a thinking man's game, and it will remain that way. its not my fault if you didnt think ahead and chose the "best" weapon or suit at the time. you didnt think ahead to the consequences of using that too your advantage.... shoulda invest SP into yourself and not your K/D I'll let you in on a little secret. Some of the most adamant anti-respec voices have threatened to quit both Dust and Eve if respecs were added to Dust. Would you say the same to them, "Just quit already!" or would you be a little more understanding because their position aligns better with your own? The question is not how many people you know who like adapt or die etc, but rather how many people do you know who are willing to support Dust by actually spending money on cash items on a continual basis. Dust has no sub fees to keep it afloat, which is a stark comparison to Eve. A desire to have a positive KDR in a game which tracks it, has leaderboards with that metric, rewards you based on it with ISK and SP, is wrong? Sure.... I hate to break it to you, but neither your point of view or the point of view of someone who is concerned about their KDR is wrong. It's just different, and if you only want to play with players who share your absolute opinion, considering how your telling those who don't to just quit, prepare for a lonely gaming expierence. ok... i will... i think ill live, and so will all the people i play with, who enjoy the way CCP works... stop threatening... just do it... come back later.... or dont... someone else will take your position I'm wondering why you think I'm threatening to quit. Never in the course of this thread have I threaten to do so. See that's your problem. You've got an over inflated sense of self importance. I'm not quitting because you think I should, nor will I ever for that matter, and the fact that you think I would is not only amusing, but also sad at the same time.
Stands Alone Ultramarine Corp 42	Posted - 2013.07.29 19:54:00 - [310] - Quote dday3six wrote: Stands Alone wrote: dday3six wrote: Stands Alone wrote: I think those of you who mention quitting, should stop making threats and just quit. Eve grew at a very slow pace, even though millions have tried and quit. but CCP kept it going, and now there is nothing to compare to the magnitude of what heppens in Eve. in fact, they just made BBC news today. I know plenty of people who like this "adapt or die" about Dust, how you will not get a respec, to think ahead before you invest SP on whether you are investing it on yourself, or investing it into you K/D ratio... they have a small team, they aren't a giant corporation. they dont need a huge amount of players to pay to keep operating... BF does, COD does, Halo does, but not Dust... there is like 10% of the team that those companies have working on dust... you can keep telling yourself that they will not make enough to keep dust going but they will... you can keep saying that all the players will leave, but they wont. there will always be the ones who are curious to see where it goes, and there will always be the ones who know where its going... This is not a just a mindless FPS. this is a thinking man's game, and it will remain that way. its not my fault if you didnt think ahead and chose the "best" weapon or suit at the time. you didnt think ahead to the consequences of using that too your advantage.... shoulda invest SP into yourself and not your K/D I'll let you in on a little secret. Some of the most adamant anti-respec voices have threatened to quit both Dust and Eve if respecs were added to Dust. Would you say the same to them, "Just quit already!" or would you be a little more understanding because their position aligns better with your own? The question is not how many people you know who like adapt or die etc, but rather how many people do you know who are willing to support Dust by actually spending money on cash items on a continual basis. Dust has no sub fees to keep it afloat, which is a stark comparison to Eve. A desire to have a positive KDR in a game which tracks it, has leaderboards with that metric, rewards you based on it with ISK and SP, is wrong? Sure.... I hate to break it to you, but neither your point of view or the point of view of someone who is concerned about their KDR is wrong. It's just different, and if you only want to play with players who share your absolute opinion, considering how your telling those who don't to just quit, prepare for a lonely gaming expierence. ok... i will... i think ill live, and so will all the people i play with, who enjoy the way CCP works... stop threatening... just do it... come back later.... or dont... someone else will take your position I'm wondering why you think I'm threatening to quit. Never in the course of this thread have I threaten to do so. See that's your problem. You've got an over inflated sense of self importance. I'm not quitting because you think I should, nor will I ever for that matter, and the fact that you think I would is not only amusing, but also sad at the same time. nope... i just think, if you cant adapt... then this isnt for you. Respec is dumb. shoulda did more research.

dday3six Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 135	Posted - 2013.07.29 20:01:00 - [311] - Quote Stands Alone wrote: dday3six wrote: Stands Alone wrote: dday3six wrote: Stands Alone wrote: I think those of you who mention quitting, should stop making threats and just quit. Eve grew at a very slow pace, even though millions have tried and quit. but CCP kept it going, and now there is nothing to compare to the magnitude of what heppens in Eve. in fact, they just made BBC news today. I know plenty of people who like this "adapt or die" about Dust, how you will not get a respec, to think ahead before you invest SP on whether you are investing it on yourself, or investing it into you K/D ratio... they have a small team, they aren't a giant corporation. they dont need a huge amount of players to pay to keep operating... BF does, COD does, Halo does, but not Dust... there is like 10% of the team that those companies have working on dust... you can keep telling yourself that they will not make enough to keep dust going but they will... you can keep saying that all the players will leave, but they wont. there will always be the ones who are curious to see where it goes, and there will always be the ones who know where its going... This is not a just a mindless FPS. this is a thinking man's game, and it will remain that way. its not my fault if you didnt think ahead and chose the "best" weapon or suit at the time. you didnt think ahead to the consequences of using that too your advantage.... shoulda invest SP into yourself and not your K/D I'll let you in on a little secret. Some of the most adamant anti-respec voices have threatened to quit both Dust and Eve if respecs were added to Dust. Would you say the same to them, "Just quit already!" or would you be a little more understanding because their position aligns better with your own? The question is not how many people you know who like adapt or die etc, but rather how many people do you know who are willing to support Dust by actually spending money on cash items on a continual basis. Dust has no sub fees to keep it afloat, which is a stark comparison to Eve. A desire to have a positive KDR in a game which tracks it, has leaderboards with that metric, rewards you based on it with ISK and SP, is wrong? Sure.... I hate to break it to you, but neither your point of view or the point of view of someone who is concerned about their KDR is wrong. It's just different, and if you only want to play with players who share your absolute opinion, considering how your telling those who don't to just quit, prepare for a lonely gaming expierence. ok... i will... i think ill live, and so will all the people i play with, who enjoy the way CCP works... stop threatening... just do it... come back later.... or dont... someone else will take your position I'm wondering why you think I'm threatening to quit. Never in the course of this thread have I threaten to do so. See that's your problem. You've got an over inflated sense of self importance. I'm not quitting because you think I should, nor will I ever for that matter, and the fact that you think I would is not only amusing, but also sad at the same time. nope... i just think, if you cant adapt... then this isnt for you. Respec is dumb. shoulda did more research. Are baseless assumptions a hobby of yours?
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1357	Posted - 2013.07.29 20:03:00 - [312] - Quote Stands Alone wrote: nope... i just think, if you cant adapt... then this isnt for you. Respec is dumb. shoulda did more research. So have you found a way to predict the future? I would really like to know what it is. Shoulda done more research... what a joke response.
Oso Peresoso RisingSuns 382	Posted - 2013.07.29 20:13:00 - [313] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Liking the class, you dump all 15 mill SP to your name into the class. Haha, dummy.
Stands Alone Ultramarine Corp 42	Posted - 2013.07.29 20:25:00 - [314] - Quote um yes... i predict the future all the time... but it doesnt always happen the way i predict it... not sure if you know the definition... i need a respec... sorry. go back to COD and BF3
SILENTSAM 69 SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION 519	Posted - 2013.07.29 20:27:00 - [315] - Quote I can not only argue with this. I can dismiss it out right. I love seeing tears like this. I really hope CCP just ignores all thee tears, collects them for later enjoyment maybe, and just continues without respecs. Respecs are for lesser people in other shooters.
dday3six Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 136	Posted - 2013.07.29 20:37:00 - [316] - Quote Stands Alone wrote: um yes... i predict the future all the time... but it doesnt always happen the way i predict it... not sure if you know the definition... i need a respec... sorry. go back to COD and BF3 Assume is the word for what you do. However I'm guessing that your "predictions" about the Caldari Logi and the Flaylock had something to do with mercs being able to quickly spec into them in mass. What's the word for what happened that allowed players to do that? hmm...I wonder, could it be respec. Do Call of Duty or Battlefield even have respecs, I honestly don't know cause I've never played either.
dday3six Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 137	Posted - 2013.07.29 20:40:00 - [317] - Quote SILENTSAM 69 wrote: I can not only argue with this. I can dismiss it out right. I love seeing tears like this. I really hope CCP just ignores all thee tears, collects them for later enjoyment maybe, and just continues without respecs. Respecs are for lesser people in other shooters. Seriously? Is there something in the water? WTF.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 418	Posted - 2013.07.29 20:41:00 - [318] - Quote dday3six wrote: Stands Alone wrote: um yes... i predict the future all the time... but it doesnt always happen the way i predict it... not sure if you know the definition... i need a respec... sorry. go back to COD and BF3 Assume is the word for what you do. However I'm guessing that your "predictions" about the Caldari Logi and the Flaylock had something to do with mercs being able to quickly spec into them in mass. What's the word for what happened that allowed players to do that? hmm...I wonder, could it be respec. Do Call of Duty or Battlefield even have respecs, I honestly don't know cause I've never played either. No. they have unlocks, that you can reset after hitting the maximum level for no other reason than a little icon next to your name. you don't even get to pick your unlocks anymore in battlefield. you get x amount of points, y gun is unlocked.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1359	Posted - 2013.07.29 20:44:00 - [319] - Quote dday3six wrote: SILENTSAM 69 wrote: I can not only argue with this. I can dismiss it out right. I love seeing tears like this. I really hope CCP just ignores all thee tears, collects them for later enjoyment maybe, and just continues without respecs. Respecs are for lesser people in other shooters. Seriously? Is there something in the water? WTF. Just people drinking some awesome koolaid apparently. Notice how all of the people arguing against respecs are non factors in npc corps or corps that could never compete in PC?
Stands Alone Ultramarine Corp 42	Posted - 2013.07.29 20:48:00 - [320] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: dday3six wrote: SILENTSAM 69 wrote: I can not only argue with this. I can dismiss it out right. I love seeing tears like this. I really hope CCP just ignores all thee tears, collects them for later enjoyment maybe, and just continues without respecs. Respecs are for lesser people in other shooters. Seriously? Is there something in the water? WTF. Just people drinking some awesome koolaid apparently. Notice how all of the people arguing against respecs are non factors in npc corps or corps that could never compete in PC? we used to compete PC in a PC alliance... as did my previous corp... not sure why it makes a difference...

ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1359	Posted - 2013.07.29 20:53:00 - [321] - Quote Stands Alone wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: dday3six wrote: SILENTSAM 69 wrote: I can not only argue with this. I can dismiss it out right. I love seeing tears like this. I really hope CCP just ignores all thee tears, collects them for later enjoyment maybe, and just continues without respecs. Respecs are for lesser people in other shooters. Seriously? Is there something in the water? WTF. Just people drinking some awesome koolaid apparently. Notice how all of the people arguing against respecs are non factors in npc corps or corps that could never compete in PC? we used to compete PC in a PC alliance... as did my previous corp... not sure why it makes a difference... The fundamental difference in both arguments comes down to PC in its essence (organized battles). You need to be specialized and effective to make a difference in a corp battle. This is why people want respecs, so they can rework their SP to remain effective after their specialization has been nerfed. Everyone who is against just RPs in pub matches. Your corp may have participated in the early days of PC but they clearly got run out by people with more skill and better planning of their SP paths., They may participate now simply because large corporations like EoN allow you to. But not having a solid specialization means you aren't competitive in PC. This may not matter in another 6-8 months once a lot of people are pushing 30 million SP... but it matters right now.. and a lot of people are unhappy they don't really have a place in PC (or those kinds of matches in general). god this game is just so broke..
Malkai Inos Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 915	Posted - 2013.07.29 20:54:00 - [322] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: dday3six wrote: SILENTSAM 69 wrote: I can not only argue with this. I can dismiss it out right. I love seeing tears like this. I really hope CCP just ignores all thee tears, collects them for later enjoyment maybe, and just continues without respecs. Respecs are for lesser people in other shooters. Seriously? Is there something in the water? WTF. Just people drinking some awesome koolaid apparently. Notice how all of the people arguing against respecs are non factors in npc corps or corps that could never compete in PC? How is that relevant? Last i checked the subject was not PC. Engage the argument, not the person arguing.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1359	Posted - 2013.07.29 20:56:00 - [323] - Quote Malkai Inos wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: dday3six wrote: SILENTSAM 69 wrote: I can not only argue with this. I can dismiss it out right. I love seeing tears like this. I really hope CCP just ignores all thee tears, collects them for later enjoyment maybe, and just continues without respecs. Respecs are for lesser people in other shooters. Seriously? Is there something in the water? WTF. Just people drinking some awesome koolaid apparently. Notice how all of the people arguing against respecs are non factors in npc corps or corps that could never compete in PC? How is that relevant? Last i checked the subject was not PC. Engage the argument, not the person arguing. Read my next post. Most of it comes down to how you approach the game play. And hell maybe it doesn't matter... by the time this game is worth playing 'competitively' it'll all be balanced and maybe corp matches will matter at that point. and most of the competitive players will probably be on PS4 anyways lol. I dunno why I even care anymore.
dday3six Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 138	Posted - 2013.07.29 21:00:00 - [324] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: dday3six wrote: SILENTSAM 69 wrote: I can not only argue with this. I can dismiss it out right. I love seeing tears like this. I really hope CCP just ignores all thee tears, collects them for later enjoyment maybe, and just continues without respecs. Respecs are for lesser people in other shooters. Seriously? Is there something in the water? WTF. Just people drinking some awesome koolaid apparently. Notice how all of the people arguing against respecs are non factors in npc corps or corps that could never compete in PC? I've been noticing that trend, and it seems to be very much the same "competitive vs causal" BS that most games and hobbies suffer from. "Causals" seems to hate "Competitors" because they don't understand their outlook, meanwhile many competitors ultimately desire a healthly mix of both players because they know Competitors often start as Causals. It's the people who want tears and suffering from Cal-logis and Flaylock users. Some feel they should be punished for using the tools the developers gave them. It makes no sense to me.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1361	Posted - 2013.07.29 21:02:00 - [325] - Quote dday3six wrote: I've been noticing that trend, and it seems to be very much the same "competitive vs causal" BS that most games and hobbies suffer from. "Causals" seems to hate "Competitors" because they don't understand their outlook, meanwhile many competitors ultimately desire a healthly mix of both players because they know Competitors often start as Causals. It's the people who want tears and suffering from Cal-logis and Flaylock users. Some feel they should be punished for using the tools the developers gave them. It makes no sense to me. The fundamental argument. Is this an FPS or an RPG?
LongLostLust Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 99	Posted - 2013.07.29 21:03:00 - [326] - Quote Respec for AUR in 1.4!!!
Malkai Inos Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 915	Posted - 2013.07.29 21:06:00 - [327] - Quote dday3six wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: dday3six wrote: SILENTSAM 69 wrote: I can not only argue with this. I can dismiss it out right. I love seeing tears like this. I really hope CCP just ignores all thee tears, collects them for later enjoyment maybe, and just continues without respecs. Respecs are for lesser people in other shooters. Seriously? Is there something in the water? WTF. Just people drinking some awesome koolaid apparently. Notice how all of the people arguing against respecs are non factors in npc corps or corps that could never compete in PC? I've been noticing that trend, and it seems to be very much the same "competitive vs causal" BS that most games and hobbies suffer from. "Causals" seems to hate "Competitors" because they don't understand their outlook, meanwhile many competitors ultimately desire a healthly mix of both players because they know Competitors often start as Causals. It's the people who want tears and suffering from Cal-logis and Flaylock users. Some feel they should be punished for using the tools the developers gave them. It makes no sense to me. It's not "competitive vs casual" it "those who feel that respecs are breaking vital game mechanics vs. those who feel that those mechanics shouldn't matter" Stop willfully ignoring that people have put up worthwhile points on the subject and making this a mudd throwing concept. And i'm a cal logi myself so yet another strawman burns down.
Malkai Inos Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 915	Posted - 2013.07.29 21:08:00 - [328] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: dday3six wrote: I've been noticing that trend, and it seems to be very much the same "competitive vs causal" BS that most games and hobbies suffer from. "Causals" seems to hate "Competitors" because they don't understand their outlook, meanwhile many competitors ultimately desire a healthly mix of both players because they know Competitors often start as Causals. It's the people who want tears and suffering from Cal-logis and Flaylock users. Some feel they should be punished for using the tools the developers gave them. It makes no sense to me. The fundamental argument. Is this an FPS or an RPG? That's a good question and i answer it's both. The SP system is clearly a RPG mechanic. Respecs make this mechanic void. Unless we are fine with effectively removing this mechanic altogether respecs are out of question in my opinion.
dday3six Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 138	Posted - 2013.07.29 21:10:00 - [329] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: dday3six wrote: I've been noticing that trend, and it seems to be very much the same "competitive vs causal" BS that most games and hobbies suffer from. "Causals" seems to hate "Competitors" because they don't understand their outlook, meanwhile many competitors ultimately desire a healthly mix of both players because they know Competitors often start as Causals. It's the people who want tears and suffering from Cal-logis and Flaylock users. Some feel they should be punished for using the tools the developers gave them. It makes no sense to me. The fundamental argument. Is this an FPS or an RPG? It's trying to be too much of both, and that's becoming an issue. Longterm role choices and consequence with long grind, but nothing to do other then lobby shoot on the same 4 maps.
dday3six Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 138	Posted - 2013.07.29 21:14:00 - [330] - Quote Malkai Inos wrote: dday3six wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: dday3six wrote: SILENTSAM 69 wrote: I can not only argue with this. I can dismiss it out right. I love seeing tears like this. I really hope CCP just ignores all thee tears, collects them for later enjoyment maybe, and just continues without respecs. Respecs are for lesser people in other shooters. Seriously? Is there something in the water? WTF. Just people drinking some awesome koolaid apparently. Notice how all of the people arguing against respecs are non factors in npc corps or corps that could never compete in PC? I've been noticing that trend, and it seems to be very much the same "competitive vs causal" BS that most games and hobbies suffer from. "Causals" seems to hate "Competitors" because they don't understand their outlook, meanwhile many competitors ultimately desire a healthly mix of both players because they know Competitors often start as Causals. It's the people who want tears and suffering from Cal-logis and Flaylock users. Some feel they should be punished for using the tools the developers gave them. It makes no sense to me. It's not "competitive vs casual" it's "those who feel that respecs are breaking vital game mechanics vs. those who feel that those mechanics shouldn't matter" Stop willfully ignoring that people have put up worthwhile points on the subject and making this a mudd throwing concept. And i'm a cal logi myself so yet another strawman burns down. Yes, some people feel that, and I'm not ignoring it. I'm acknowledging that some players don't want respecs because they want players to be punished for how they choose to play the game.



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