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lDocHollidayl
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.08.01 15:44:00 -
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Respecs make moral logical sense. If I pay "x" for a product "y", and then the merchant changes "y" to "y-2" morally one would support the choose to use "x" differently.
I say morally because as I understand it we are paying "x" with CCP in tiny letters saying "We have a right to change all "y"'s whenever and however we chose.
If you bought a merc pack and the game closed servers the next day...morally speaking CCP cheated you. They didn't legally but morally they came up short. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
772
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Posted - 2013.08.01 16:31:00 -
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GTA-V FTW wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:GTA-V FTW wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
HAVs on the FOTM list lolno
If they were not FOTM's then why did they get nerfed? Because infantry cried OP and refused to use teamwork to take them out until it got to a point where you can solo them without any skill required while on the otherhand AV got buffed 90% of the playerbase didnt use tanks, they all ran proto infantry and complained when a tank would kill them but wouldnt swap out to AV and even try to do so So what happened? Turrets nerfed, small and large nerfed, missiles/railguns nerfed, mods nerfed, resistances nerfed, speed mods nerfed, passive resistance mods nerfed, skills nerfed, pg nerfed, turret damage nerfed, skills removed, mods removed, AV buff It happened in BF3 to where majority of vehicles in the game are a joke and can be soloed by a player Okay so then you are blaming the FOTM players for your win button getting nerfed. Just admit it you suck at FPS's and you need a win button, and now that the FOTM skilled FPS's can destroy you over priced nerfed win button you are pissed. Anyway my guess is that since you are saying you are a CCP DUST fanboy that you will be taking a respec and not quiting then. What happens if and when CCP finally releases all the racial variants to the HAV's and there is a better one than what you have your 20 million SP's into and then that HAV starts blowing your derp HAV up?
Im blaming infantry who refuse to even use AV, they want to tryhard with a rifle and have nothing else kill them
FOTM players cannot kill a tank and im prob better than you at FPS anyways
I dont need a respec, i plan ahead, i have saved SP, 4.5mil SP free and it could be close to 8mil by time 1.5 comes around
Even if a better HAV comes out i will be ready for it and have SP ready unlike FOTM players who skill into the next crutch and then cry when it gets nerfed |
dday3six
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
149
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Posted - 2013.08.01 19:45:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:GTA-V FTW wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
HAVs on the FOTM list lolno
If they were not FOTM's then why did they get nerfed? Because infantry cried OP and refused to use teamwork to take them out until it got to a point where you can solo them without any skill required while on the otherhand AV got buffed 90% of the playerbase didnt use tanks, they all ran proto infantry and complained when a tank would kill them but wouldnt swap out to AV and even try to do so So what happened? Turrets nerfed, small and large nerfed, missiles/railguns nerfed, mods nerfed, resistances nerfed, speed mods nerfed, passive resistance mods nerfed, skills nerfed, pg nerfed, turret damage nerfed, skills removed, mods removed, AV buff It happened in BF3 to where majority of vehicles in the game are a joke and can be soloed by a player
The biggest issue is how CCP designed the maps. IMO, they should have put in for more "no vehicle" safe zones to shelther infantry vs infantry combat. Right now tanks can get almost anywhere on each map, and that's the real problem with vechile balance, they can go nearly anywhere infantry can, but require swapping to AV to counter.
Like it or not most players are not always going to apply teamwork in public matches and I'm hard pressed to say they should be overly punished for it. If tanks always required multiple AV infantry units engaging to neutralize, it shifts the balance too greatly in favor of tank operators as the maps are currently designed in regards to public matches. I'd rather have maps be better deversified into areas were tanks shine in some and infantry shine in others. Then it would be more reasonable for tanks to require a more concentrated effort to despatch and it would also place a greater emphasis on selecting proper squad composition and positioning in PC.
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Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
700
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Posted - 2013.08.02 01:44:00 -
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damn, my respec thread turned into a tank thread |
dustwaffle
Gravity Prone EoN.
273
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Posted - 2013.08.02 06:27:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:damn, my respec thread turned into a tank thread What can you do eh? What starts off as a decent discussions turns into butthurt players insulting each other's FPS skills and correct/incorrect use of various terms.
Godwin is most likely around the corner as well |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
701
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Posted - 2013.08.02 06:31:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:damn, my respec thread turned into a tank thread What can you do eh? What starts off as a decent discussions turns into butthurt players insulting each other's FPS skills and correct/incorrect use of various terms. Godwin is most likely around the corner as well
yeah im talking to him now actually. he wants the respecs to happen cuz his class got nerfed |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
438
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Posted - 2013.08.02 06:31:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:damn, my respec thread turned into a tank thread
Who're the people most in need of a respec? Dropship pilots. followed very closely by tankers.
We won't even get a single ****ing balance pass for at least 6 ****ing months. |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
701
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Posted - 2013.08.02 06:34:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:damn, my respec thread turned into a tank thread Who're the people most in need of a respec? Dropship pilots. followed very closely by tankers. We won't even get a single ****ing balance pass for at least 6 ****ing months.
them and everyone else whos classes gets suddenly and unexpectedly nerfed |
Ankoku Daishogun
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
95
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Posted - 2013.08.02 08:14:00 -
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spec hopping and corp hopping go hand in hand it seems. |
maluble
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:02:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:You play a properly balanced, fair and fun class. Liking the class, you dump all 15 mill SP to your name into the class. Suddenly, new build/patch comes around and your class is nerfed without your consent and you now suck at the game. You spawn in your proto suit or your vehical and you are killed over and over, loosing all your ISK. You are told you can not play PC because the one class you are good at, sucks. Nobody wants you in any serious endeavor in dust because your class is nerfed to the point of uselessness. Like current shield tanks, dropships, lazers, plasma cannons and soon to be armor tanks when they fix the bug that is causing them to be balanced. You no longer want to play dust, as the class you played is ruined and so is your ability to enjoy playing dust, because the developers ruined the class you speced into. CCP later anounes that they will not be fixing your class for many months and they ask you to accept their most sincere apologies, despite changing the class that you speced into many months beforehand. Should you get a respec? This happened to the classes mentioned previously and will happen again when the fix the armor tanks
If you wear your basic or advanced fits in pub like your supposed to you would have ISK and fun, Proto isnt meant to pub stomp remember that. With a good squad you dont need proto just good players watching your back. |
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XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
749
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:23:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:GTA-V FTW wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:GTA-V FTW wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
HAVs on the FOTM list lolno
If they were not FOTM's then why did they get nerfed? Because infantry cried OP and refused to use teamwork to take them out until it got to a point where you can solo them without any skill required while on the otherhand AV got buffed 90% of the playerbase didnt use tanks, they all ran proto infantry and complained when a tank would kill them but wouldnt swap out to AV and even try to do so So what happened? Turrets nerfed, small and large nerfed, missiles/railguns nerfed, mods nerfed, resistances nerfed, speed mods nerfed, passive resistance mods nerfed, skills nerfed, pg nerfed, turret damage nerfed, skills removed, mods removed, AV buff It happened in BF3 to where majority of vehicles in the game are a joke and can be soloed by a player Okay so then you are blaming the FOTM players for your win button getting nerfed. Just admit it you suck at FPS's and you need a win button, and now that the FOTM skilled FPS's can destroy you over priced nerfed win button you are pissed. Anyway my guess is that since you are saying you are a CCP DUST fanboy that you will be taking a respec and not quiting then. What happens if and when CCP finally releases all the racial variants to the HAV's and there is a better one than what you have your 20 million SP's into and then that HAV starts blowing your derp HAV up? Im blaming infantry who refuse to even use AV, they want to tryhard with a rifle and have nothing else kill them FOTM players cannot kill a tank and im prob better than you at FPS anyways I dont need a respec, i plan ahead, i have saved SP, 4.5mil SP free and it could be close to 8mil by time 1.5 comes around Even if a better HAV comes out i will be ready for it and have SP ready unlike FOTM players who skill into the next crutch and then cry when it gets nerfed
Do you even dust? |
Laurent Cazaderon
What The French CRONOS.
1905
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:35:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:You play a properly balanced, fair and fun class. Liking the class, you dump all 15 mill SP to your name into the class. Suddenly, new build/patch comes around and your class is nerfed without your consent and you now suck at the game. You spawn in your proto suit or your vehical and you are killed over and over, loosing all your ISK. You are told you can not play PC because the one class you are good at, sucks. Nobody wants you in any serious endeavor in dust because your class is nerfed to the point of uselessness. Like current shield tanks, dropships, lazers, plasma cannons and soon to be armor tanks when they fix the bug that is causing them to be balanced. You no longer want to play dust, as the class you played is ruined and so is your ability to enjoy playing dust, because the developers ruined the class you speced into. CCP later anounes that they will not be fixing your class for many months and they ask you to accept their most sincere apologies, despite changing the class that you speced into many months beforehand. Should you get a respec? This happened to the classes mentioned previously and will happen again when the fix the armor tanks
Cry me a river.....
"Oh damn, me not OP anymore and need to learn back how to play without stomping everyone."
What has been so hardly nerfed lately ? And i mean, like in 1.2/1.3 that you cant even go into PC fights ? |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
418
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Posted - 2013.08.02 14:10:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:You play a properly balanced, fair and fun class. Liking the class, you dump all 15 mill SP to your name into the class. Suddenly, new build/patch comes around and your class is nerfed without your consent and you now suck at the game. You spawn in your proto suit or your vehical and you are killed over and over, loosing all your ISK. You are told you can not play PC because the one class you are good at, sucks. Nobody wants you in any serious endeavor in dust because your class is nerfed to the point of uselessness. Like current shield tanks, dropships, lazers, plasma cannons and soon to be armor tanks when they fix the bug that is causing them to be balanced. You no longer want to play dust, as the class you played is ruined and so is your ability to enjoy playing dust, because the developers ruined the class you speced into. CCP later anounes that they will not be fixing your class for many months and they ask you to accept their most sincere apologies, despite changing the class that you speced into many months beforehand. Should you get a respec? This happened to the classes mentioned previously and will happen again when the fix the armor tanks Cry me a river..... "Oh damn, me not OP anymore and need to learn back how to play without stomping everyone." What has been so hardly nerfed lately ? And i mean, like in 1.2/1.3 that you cant even go into PC fights ? Tanks were OP one time I will admit that but since then they've been weak as hell why the hell should 1 guy be able to solo a tank? Yeah no proto tanks so they should have taken proto av out aswell |
Defy Gravity
Silver Talon Corporation
60
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Posted - 2013.08.02 14:12:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:You play a properly balanced, fair and fun class. Liking the class, you dump all 15 mill SP to your name into the class. Suddenly, new build/patch comes around and your class is nerfed without your consent and you now suck at the game. You spawn in your proto suit or your vehical and you are killed over and over, loosing all your ISK. You are told you can not play PC because the one class you are good at, sucks. Nobody wants you in any serious endeavor in dust because your class is nerfed to the point of uselessness. Like current shield tanks, dropships, lazers, plasma cannons and soon to be armor tanks when they fix the bug that is causing them to be balanced. You no longer want to play dust, as the class you played is ruined and so is your ability to enjoy playing dust, because the developers ruined the class you speced into. CCP later anounes that they will not be fixing your class for many months and they ask you to accept their most sincere apologies, despite changing the class that you speced into many months beforehand. Should you get a respec? This happened to the classes mentioned previously and will happen again when the fix the armor tanks Lol feel your pain.... On the nerf part |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
707
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Posted - 2013.08.03 02:41:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:You play a properly balanced, fair and fun class. Liking the class, you dump all 15 mill SP to your name into the class. Suddenly, new build/patch comes around and your class is nerfed without your consent and you now suck at the game. You spawn in your proto suit or your vehical and you are killed over and over, loosing all your ISK. You are told you can not play PC because the one class you are good at, sucks. Nobody wants you in any serious endeavor in dust because your class is nerfed to the point of uselessness. Like current shield tanks, dropships, lazers, plasma cannons and soon to be armor tanks when they fix the bug that is causing them to be balanced. You no longer want to play dust, as the class you played is ruined and so is your ability to enjoy playing dust, because the developers ruined the class you speced into. CCP later anounes that they will not be fixing your class for many months and they ask you to accept their most sincere apologies, despite changing the class that you speced into many months beforehand. Should you get a respec? This happened to the classes mentioned previously and will happen again when the fix the armor tanks Cry me a river..... "Oh damn, me not OP anymore and need to learn back how to play without stomping everyone." What has been so hardly nerfed lately ? And i mean, like in 1.2/1.3 that you cant even go into PC fights ? Tanks were OP one time I will admit that but since then they've been weak as hell why the hell should 1 guy be able to solo a tank? Yeah no proto tanks so they should have taken proto av out aswell
even the CPM raises his temper. you would think they would be more diplomatic on the topic of fixing the mistakes caused by rebalancing |
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