I'm a shield-missile tanker. My entire playstyle is invalidated by a single forge gunner, or even half-decent tank on the field. you know what I did? grabbed a heavy machine gun and a fatsuit after a week long break. it's nice to start at the bottom again, keeps you from making bullcrap posts demanding a respec even though they already said NO MORE a while ago.

I'm a shield-missile tanker. My entire playstyle is invalidated by a single forge gunner, or even half-decent tank on the field. you know what I did? grabbed a heavy machine gun and a fatsuit after a week long break. it's nice to start at the bottom again, keeps you from making bullcrap posts demanding a respec even though they already said NO MORE a while ago.

That's just the nature of things.
Just pray to the CCP gods to have mercy and not to bring the nerf hammer, but the nerf chisel for your OP item.

My opinion is that you should live with it. they said your decisions matter, And they do. You chose to spec into a very specific role on an ever changing battlefield. when the battlefield changed, and you broke. I decided to be more flexible.

If the balance has been shown to be volatile at best, then try to avoid speccing into things too terribly heavily unless you're sure that come rain, snow, fire, or flood, you'll be able to be happy with it.

no, that is not an acceptable solution and if thats the only way to cope with DUSTs promblems then this game is done, the competition will sweep this hunk of junk through. Youl be on a new game that actually deals with their promblems and communicates positively with their players instead of playing a game were "your screwed and should stop playing".

Btw, i called you out a post or 2 above. Comment on it

How about a full reset. Sounds good to me. (BTW I have 10 mil SP)

How about a full reset. Sounds good to me. (BTW I have 10 mil SP)

as awsume as that would be, CCP said absolutely no more resets. respecs are still on the table

If you dont full spec into a class than you cant do anything well, thats as basic as it gets on an SP system. in fact, CCP encourages ppl to invest all their skill points into one class and become very efficent at it, there are videos with devs encouraging this from closed beta. You can not contribute to a team and make a difference without a full spec, nor will you be included in PC without a mono spec. Besides, we should not have to compensate with developers issuies, we should play the game like its meant to be played and feel secure in doing so. Do not post your incompetence on my threads

It is currently designed that way but I don't think this is in line with CCPs vision.

The skillsystem should allow specialization and generalization to be viable alternatives with varying ups and downs. The bonuses from Pro mods (especially tanking) are so strong that it's far too viable to fit proto whatever really. Since that one level an easily increase ehp by 20% with just the mods and almost triple it if combined with the suit.

This defies the concept of diminishing returns. And is thus bad.

I think that CCP can improve on this and interesting concepts have been proposed on these forums (among others from cat merc, of all people )

I have read your reply and apologize for speaking of ignorance about the latest developments. I can only imagine how aggrevating it must be to get set back yet another month or even longer. Maybe we will have another discussion in two days when i get my share of the nerf bat and find that i can change my class now.

I can understand if this "solution" i described is unacceptable for you. Other things would be unacceptable for me. What i stated was a pragmatic (if optimistic) view of what CCP can actually pull of in the best case. Balance changes like that will require several iterations to get somewhat right and there's hardly a point in wishing otherwise. This will just lead to disappointment and a videogame is the wrong source to willfully endure disappointment from.

You play a properly balanced, fair and fun class. Liking the class, you dump all 15 mill SP to your name into the class. Suddenly, new build/patch comes around and your class is nerfed without your consent and you now suck at the game. You spawn in your proto suit or your vehical and you are killed over and over, loosing all your ISK. You are told you can not play PC because the one class you are good at, sucks. Nobody wants you in any serious endeavor in dust because your class is nerfed to the point of uselessness. Like current shield tanks, dropships, lazers, plasma cannons and soon to be armor tanks when they fix the bug that is causing them to be balanced. You no longer want to play dust, as the class you played is ruined and so is your ability to enjoy playing dust, because the developers ruined the class you speced into. CCP later anounes that they will not be fixing your class for many months and they ask you to accept their most sincere apologies, despite changing the class that you speced into many months beforehand. Should you get a respec? This happened to the classes mentioned previously and will happen again when the fix the armor tanks

It is currently designed that way but I don't think this is in line with CCPs vision.

The skillsystem should allow specialization and generalization to be viable alternatives with varying ups and downs. The bonuses from Pro mods however (especially tanking) are so strong that it's far too viable to fit proto whatever really. Since that one level can easily increase ehp by 20% with just the mods and almost triple it if combined with the suit.

This defies the concept of diminishing returns. And is thus bad.

I think that CCP can improve on this and interesting concepts have been proposed on these forums (among others from cat merc, of all people )

Armor tank crying for 1.4 fix?Oh and no respec sorry

A reset won't fix anything.
Sure, it will even the playfield...
FOR NOW.
What about in 2-3 months?
New players will step in and find themselves in the same situation.
So you will do another reset?

A reset won't fix anything.
Sure, it will even the playfield...
FOR NOW.
What about in 2-3 months?
New players will step in and find themselves and the same situation.
So you will do another reset?

You play a properly balanced, fair and fun class. Liking the class, you dump all 15 mill SP to your name into the class. Suddenly, new build/patch comes around and your class is nerfed without your consent and you now suck at the game. You spawn in your proto suit or your vehical and you are killed over and over, loosing all your ISK. You are told you can not play PC because the one class you are good at, sucks. Nobody wants you in any serious endeavor in dust because your class is nerfed to the point of uselessness. Like current shield tanks, dropships, lazers, plasma cannons and soon to be armor tanks when they fix the bug that is causing them to be balanced. You no longer want to play dust, as the class you played is ruined and so is your ability to enjoy playing dust, because the developers ruined the class you speced into. CCP later anounes that they will not be fixing your class for many months and they ask you to accept their most sincere apologies, despite changing the class that you speced into many months beforehand. Should you get a respec? This happened to the classes mentioned previously and will happen again when the fix the armor tanks

I agree with a respec but after all the weapons are implemented and balanced so there is no fotm ****

I agree with a respec but after all the weapons are implemented and balanced so there is no fotm ****

That wont help those screwed over right now or for the next 2 years (ish)

Get rid of the cap and ill agree otherwise I could care less I skilled into what I need for situations

Were always going to have a cap, no matter what and we should. But you would care if you suddenly suck at the game because what you skilled into get nerfed into unreasonable levels. Then a respec would be appropriate