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Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 399	Posted - 2013.07.28 04:55:00 - [1] - Quote Yeah. I specced into something I knew was UP when I did it. I prefer the hard road, it forces me to be better than the kid who specs FOTM, because I have to be so to beat them. think of it like this: When you use a crutch, and someone kicks it out, you can't get up as as easily because your legs got weak. Me? I laugh at the guy on the ground since I already did my getting up. Giggity.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 399	Posted - 2013.07.28 05:11:00 - [2] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Yeah. I specced into something I knew was UP when I did it. I prefer the hard road, it forces me to be better than the kid who specs FOTM, because I have to be so to beat them. think of it like this: When you use a crutch, and someone kicks it out, you can't get up as as easily because your legs got weak. Me? I laugh at the guy on the ground since I already did my getting up. Giggity. This is good effort, but not very realistic in dust. The best players in the game sometimes migrate to the most FOTM classes in the game. When the best players go for FOTM, the UP does not win, skilled or no I do sometimes. it just requires better tactics becoming so ingrained to my thought processes that it's second nature for me to observe a fight and scatter the enemy by flanking with an HMG and grenades(real ones,not contacts.) to flush the poor little pricks out of cover and into fire, since they lose that edge you have when you know you're outnumbered, outgunned, and out-healthed in your fatsuit. its not aiming better or something simple. it's being forced to think with real tactics that's giving me the edge in a fight. Sure, sometimes the enemy being so damn much better equipped makes this nigh insurmountable, but still, it's only mostly impossible. Feels good to know I won because I out-thought the opponent(like say, tricking a flaylogi into some remote explosives around a corner) or because they lost their edge(using splash weapons makes your aim real ****ty, so that even a fatsuit can dance circles around you while turning you into a fine mist with an HMG.)
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 399	Posted - 2013.07.28 05:40:00 - [3] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Very rarely do classes that weren't being abused get nerfed hard enough to makes respec necessary Lets say you were a scout, and you think that with aiming fixes coming in 1.4, you think that the scouts advantage of being hard to hit, well make a big damn uproar for a buff to ease the issue. Now, lets say you were a CalLogi. If you were using it for what it was supposed to do, while you'll have to sacrifice some tank, you'll not be bothered by the nerf. And if you were dumb enough to spec into it for its mega assault capabilities, not thinking it would be nerfed, then shame on you. Spec into something that is supposed to mega assault, the heavy. Then maybe it can get balanced, cause people used to say it is UP, and I really don't know. Unfortionetly classes that are not being abused do get nerfed... in dust. For example, 4 out of 6 of all vehical classes in dust and the HMG. In fact, they are nerfing the very balanced armor tank soon. And not soon tm. Also, specing into something that is UP does not balance the UP class. When has this happened in dust history? It hasent nope, but CCP can't do small balance patches they only do huge pendulum swings. so whats UP right now, could be crazy OP next patch. and likewise, what's OP will likely be kneecapped with a ball-pein hammer. Live with your choices.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 399	Posted - 2013.07.28 05:45:00 - [4] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Very rarely do classes that weren't being abused get nerfed hard enough to makes respec necessary Lets say you were a scout, and you think that with aiming fixes coming in 1.4, you think that the scouts advantage of being hard to hit, well make a big damn uproar for a buff to ease the issue. Now, lets say you were a CalLogi. If you were using it for what it was supposed to do, while you'll have to sacrifice some tank, you'll not be bothered by the nerf. And if you were dumb enough to spec into it for its mega assault capabilities, not thinking it would be nerfed, then shame on you. Spec into something that is supposed to mega assault, the heavy. Then maybe it can get balanced, cause people used to say it is UP, and I really don't know. Unfortionetly classes that are not being abused do get nerfed... in dust. For example, 4 out of 6 of all vehical classes in dust and the HMG. In fact, they are nerfing the very balanced armor tank soon. And not soon tm. Also, specing into something that is UP does not balance the UP class. When has this happened in dust history? It hasent nope, but CCP can't do small balance patches they only do huge pendulum swings. so whats UP right now, could be crazy OP next patch. and likewise, what's OP will likely be kneecapped with a ball-pein hammer. Live with your choices. It is not your choices to live with when the DEVs make your choices for you. The choices you make when you spend your SP are invalidated and molested when your class is changed after you speced into it. Its not your choice at that point. Its CCPs It's your choice to spend the SP on something that is obviously OP. It's your choice to continue playing after you were invalidated. It's your choice to whine on the forums for a respec that won't come.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 399	Posted - 2013.07.28 06:13:00 - [5] - Quote I'm a shield-missile tanker. My entire playstyle is invalidated by a single forge gunner, or even half-decent tank on the field. you know what I did? grabbed a heavy machine gun and a fatsuit after a week long break. it's nice to start at the bottom again, keeps you from making bullcrap posts demanding a respec even though they already said NO MORE a while ago.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 399	Posted - 2013.07.28 06:26:00 - [6] - Quote My opinion is that you should live with it. they said your decisions matter, And they do. You chose to spec into a very specific role on an ever changing battlefield. when the battlefield changed, and you broke. I decided to be more flexible. If the balance has been shown to be volatile at best, then try to avoid speccing into things too terribly heavily unless you're sure that come rain, snow, fire, or flood, you'll be able to be happy with it.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 404	Posted - 2013.07.29 04:40:00 - [7] - Quote A free respec will see around 80-90% of players switching to the current FOTM and then demanding another free respec when that gets balance properly. CCP caves now, they'll never stop. EDIT: not in favor of paid respecs either. spec what you love, and the kills will come.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 405	Posted - 2013.07.29 05:24:00 - [8] - Quote why is it that what you're using has to be all-powerful for you to have fun? I specced into missile tanks because I like blowing shite up, and the caldari tanks specialize in missiles, which are all about blowing shite up. they were crap when I started, and have since gotten worse. According to everyone here, I should have quit to send a message to CCP. How's about I just keep doing what I like, since I don't need it to be OP to have fun.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 406	Posted - 2013.07.29 05:53:00 - [9] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: why is it that what you're using has to be all-powerful for you to have fun? I specced into missile tanks because I like blowing shite up, and the caldari tanks specialize in missiles, which are all about blowing shite up. they were crap when I started, and have since gotten worse. According to everyone here, I should have quit to send a message to CCP. How's about I just keep doing what I like, since I don't need it to be OP to have fun. OP? we want balance, and 99% of all FPS players dont want to be nonn factors, your the 1%. 100% of ppl dont want their class to be nerfed and be told to deal with it No. you want the balance to be in your favor. The second it isn't you throw up a huge shitstorm and act like you speak for everyone, making up statistics to support your views.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 407	Posted - 2013.07.29 06:04:00 - [10] - Quote Grief PK wrote: Balance issues are part of every game throughout its entire life cycle. There is never a game that is 100% balanced 100% of the time. We know this so why weigh it so heavily in the argument. The reality is that its about time. Balance aside, when I respect I am not respecing SP, I am respecing hundreds of hours of my life. So knowing that balance will always be ... out of balance. Allow players to ebbe and flow with it instead of feeling caged by their SP and their by devaluing the hours of their life spent earning it. yes, because everyone should only ever run what is FOTM. all others are scrubs and "nonn factors" right? NOTE: The quotation marks are from what Exmaple called me a few posts ago.

Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 407	Posted - 2013.07.29 06:12:00 - [11] - Quote "There will always be FOTM chasers" They're called about 90% of the population of any given FPS, probably more in dust with the EVE "any advantage I can take" mentality. That is what will destroy the game, you'll go from a myriad selection of suits, guns, and vehicles to one of each, kitted out exactly the same. Unless you want to outright lose every fight you're in since every time the balance changes, the majority of the game switches to whatever's OP. You can only dodge so many flaylock shots.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 407	Posted - 2013.07.29 06:18:00 - [12] - Quote Grief PK wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: "There will always be FOTM chasers" They're called about 90% of the population of any given FPS, probably more in dust with the EVE "any advantage I can take" mentality. That is what will destroy the game, you'll go from a myriad selection of suits, guns, and vehicles to one of each, kitted out exactly the same. Unless you want to outright lose every fight you're in since every time the balance changes, the majority of the game switches to whatever's OP. You can only dodge so many flaylock shots. I disagree, whole heartedly. I believe CCP should take a chance, if you are correct they will know within a month and change it back no harm done. If you are incorrect we could have a phenomenal new game on our hands. no they won't. they are already getting HUGE backlash and people demanding respecs right now over putting one suit and gun in line. Imagine the shitstorm if they took out a month's worth of SP in a rollback? And it's human nature to want to win. that doesn't change. It's why I know that so much of the playerbase will flock to the statistical "best" items and fits in the game.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 407	Posted - 2013.07.29 06:19:00 - [13] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: "There will always be FOTM chasers" They're called about 90% of the population of any given FPS, probably more in dust with the EVE "any advantage I can take" mentality. That is what will destroy the game, you'll go from a myriad selection of suits, guns, and vehicles to one of each, kitted out exactly the same. Unless you want to outright lose every fight you're in since every time the balance changes, the majority of the game switches to whatever's OP. You can only dodge so many flaylock shots. Things will get better and more balanced as time passes, 1.2 is a balance patch and that is progress. And in the progress of the balance ppl will get nerfed and the FOTM class will kill them even worse. So, if your able to respec you can spec into that FOTM class or more idealy, a more balanced class and repeat the process untill dust is more roundly balanced. That, keeps ppl happy and playing And then your choices mattering? that doesn't actually mean ****, since you can completely change your choices whenever you want.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 407	Posted - 2013.07.29 06:23:00 - [14] - Quote Grief PK wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Grief PK wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: "There will always be FOTM chasers" They're called about 90% of the population of any given FPS, probably more in dust with the EVE "any advantage I can take" mentality. That is what will destroy the game, you'll go from a myriad selection of suits, guns, and vehicles to one of each, kitted out exactly the same. Unless you want to outright lose every fight you're in since every time the balance changes, the majority of the game switches to whatever's OP. You can only dodge so many flaylock shots. I disagree, whole heartedly. I believe CCP should take a chance, if you are correct they will know within a month and change it back no harm done. If you are incorrect we could have a phenomenal new game on our hands. no they won't. they are already getting HUGE backlash and people demanding respecs right now over putting one suit and gun in line. Imagine the shitstorm if they took out a month's worth of SP in a rollback? And it's human nature to want to win. that doesn't change. It's why I know that so much of the playerbase will flock to the statistical "best" items and fits in the game. Again, I disagree, the only way we can find out is to try. To not try leaves the power in the FOTM folks more so then the risk of failure. Really? how? since they are taking away the FOTM's power? or are you just uninformed? flaylocks, contact nades, and the callogi are all taking nerfs.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 408	Posted - 2013.07.29 06:29:00 - [15] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: That is a very easy question to answer, some people only enjoy the most OP class in the game. Others, like myself, enjoy every balanced class in the game because i am (we are) good enough to get the class to work and destroy everyone in the game, no matter what class/fit were using... as long as its balanced. When our classes that we are now, currently balanced, are nerfed the next day to uselessness we dont want to play dust at all anymore because there is simply no recovering that 15 mill SP we invested into something that we did once enjoy. We need the ability to get out of the shiet storm we are put in and play /something/ that we enjoy. Yeah, we cant play our favorite nerfed class but there are other classes out there that we can enjoy and compete in So, you stop playing something when it gets weak, and play it only when it's strong. FOTM chaser spotted, 200 meters, opening fire. GOD-damned missiles! go straight for more than 40 feet!
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 408	Posted - 2013.07.29 06:33:00 - [16] - Quote and then one of the huge things for this game goes right out the window. Your choices mean nothing if they have no permanence. without consequence, choice is meaningless. its like handing out trophies to all the kids for participation.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 408	Posted - 2013.07.29 06:37:00 - [17] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: and then one of the huge things for this game goes right out the window. Your choices mean nothing if they have no permanence. without consequence, choice is meaningless. its like handing out trophies to all the kids for participation. truth so then you agree that respecs are a bad idea?
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 408	Posted - 2013.07.29 06:42:00 - [18] - Quote "paid for"? Free game.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 418	Posted - 2013.07.29 20:41:00 - [19] - Quote dday3six wrote: Stands Alone wrote: um yes... i predict the future all the time... but it doesnt always happen the way i predict it... not sure if you know the definition... i need a respec... sorry. go back to COD and BF3 Assume is the word for what you do. However I'm guessing that your "predictions" about the Caldari Logi and the Flaylock had something to do with mercs being able to quickly spec into them in mass. What's the word for what happened that allowed players to do that? hmm...I wonder, could it be respec. Do Call of Duty or Battlefield even have respecs, I honestly don't know cause I've never played either. No. they have unlocks, that you can reset after hitting the maximum level for no other reason than a little icon next to your name. you don't even get to pick your unlocks anymore in battlefield. you get x amount of points, y gun is unlocked.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 421	Posted - 2013.07.30 03:10:00 - [20] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: ANON Illuminati wrote: FOTM is a pain in the arse yes. but to respec everytime someone gets nerfed isnt the answer. instead ccp needs to stop the fotm and actually use the made and released model in game vs the players of the community and test it to see if its op. then decide if it needs balancing or nerfing then put it into game after its been tweaked out to the point that it is fair. do i agree with a respec? no because 98% of people who spec'ed into the flaylock knew what it was and what it did. new players arent joining this community so everyone knew what it was. the excuse of i didnt know the logi or the flaylock was op is an excuse. exmaple u a cool dude and i respect you but i do not agree with you on this and on a respec. this only gives people like me and you 15mill or 20 mill sp a chance to rain dominance and ruin fun times for the new players that are trying to creap into this game and it makes pc matches unbalanced because u got tryhards who use exploit tactics to win games rather then to actually use gun game. Its not all about the ppl who speced into FOTM, its about ppl who spec into a class and get nerfed to the point were they dont want to play anymore like heavys, lazers, dropships and tanks. Thats is a significant amount of players and more ppl quit each day because of this injustice. What other solution is there than respecs? wait 6 months for things to be balanced? The solution is to live with it. If your choices lack permanence, then they are meaningless. Notably you got this whole thing entirely ****ing wrong last time. I said it to mean that you should have to live with the choice you made. Permanently. If your choices aren't permanent, then they are meaningless. this does not mean that balance should be locked and stagnant. it means your choices, once locked in should be unchangeable. so you specced into something that was obviously OP and headed for nerf-city, full steam ahead? Now try to spec into something you actually like.

Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 422	Posted - 2013.07.30 03:19:00 - [21] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: What about the **** that not out yet? Not our fault we had to choose something else because the amarr tanks arnt out yet and stuff like that..your basically telling all these players to wait till all the racials are out work your core skills and spec into a facsimile of what you want. then when you know it's coming out, stockpile your resources for a bit beforehand and immediately proto it.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 422	Posted - 2013.07.30 03:24:00 - [22] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: What about the ** that not out yet? Not our fault we had to choose something else because the amarr tanks arnt out yet and stuff like that..your basically telling all these players to wait till all the racials are out work your core skills and spec into a facsimile of what you want. then when you know it's coming out, stockpile your resources for a bit beforehand and immediately proto it. So then you gota run ** ass gear tell it comes out...I disagree that's stupid...shouldn't even play till the gear comes out then really? there isn't an armor tank in the game yet? somebody tell the gallente guys they're supposed to be running shield mods then. did I say use ** gear? no, I said spec into a facsimile(amarr? use gallente., minmatar? use caldari.) and work your core skills, these get you the things you really need,(your tank, your modules, etc etc)
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 423	Posted - 2013.07.30 03:29:00 - [23] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: What about the ** that not out yet? Not our fault we had to choose something else because the amarr tanks arnt out yet and stuff like that..your basically telling all these players to wait till all the racials are out work your core skills and spec into a facsimile of what you want. then when you know it's coming out, stockpile your resources for a bit beforehand and immediately proto it. So then you gota run ** ass gear tell it comes out...I disagree that's stupid...shouldn't even play till the gear comes out then really? there isn't an armor tank in the game yet? somebody tell the gallente guys they're supposed to be running shield mods then. did I say use gear? no, I said spec into a facsimile(amarr? use gallente., minmatar? use caldari.) and work your core skills, these get you the things you really need,(your tank, your modules, etc etc) Working your core skills is not going to turn your class around for the next 6 months. In fact, the 15 mill SP you have prolly maxed them out. When your class is nerfed it doesent matter if their maxed or untouched, you loose. Thats all there is. Loosing your suits and vehicals Neither is bitching on the forums for something that's not going to happen. Guess what? shield and missile tanker. I have to out play everything under the sun just to not ing die if someone looks at me too hard. See me bawling my eyes out and crying to mommy for a respec? ** NO. I made my choice. I live with it's consequences. Why can't you?
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 424	Posted - 2013.07.30 03:40:00 - [24] - Quote why? what is the point of saying your choices matter when those choices can just be changed on a whim?
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 425	Posted - 2013.07.30 03:52:00 - [25] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: SO MAD!! x) Im a sheild tanker too and i have missles as well. Thats the diffrence between you and me (besides your a dumbass scrub) your fine with sucking at this game, being a non factor and not being included in PC because ppl know very well that you will not pull your weight, that you will not contribute to a winning team, that you are a worthless trash player who amounts to nothing, as evident by your npc corp. All becuase you play a class nerfed by CCP The other difference is that I can spell properly and I don't spend my time bitching about things that won't change. I ***** about things that are being changed, but are moving too slowly for my tastes. And again, being forced to play better because I work against more while using less does come with advantages.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 426	Posted - 2013.07.30 05:58:00 - [26] - Quote Guess I fall into the "I already have two jobs, why do I need three" crowd. I don't need to be the best as I play a specialized role to my friends. "that psychopath who can occasionally break a siege on nothing but flanking, a militia shotgun, and pure, batshit insanity."
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 426	Posted - 2013.07.30 06:34:00 - [27] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Guess I fall into the "I already have two jobs, why do I need three" crowd. I don't need to be the best as I play a specialized role to my friends. "that psychopath who can occasionally break a siege on nothing but flanking, a militia shotgun, and pure, batshit insanity." EDIT: See Maple, you don't want a respec to try something new, you just want it to you can stomp in the current "best" version of what you do already. FOTM chasing. When tanks get nerfed again in 6 months(since they're taking out the bug that makes armor tanks repair ultra-fast SOONtm) Will you be demanding another respec so you can switch back to shields since they will have a slight edge then? Please point out were i said im after the "current best version" of anything? Im after classes i can compete in and enjoy at the same time, i cant do that in a class that gets blown up by everything in the game and cost me all my isk, because my class sucks. Do i win? yeah, sometimes but i loose even more often than that, being held back by a class that was nerfed. Blowing up and loosing over and over is not a class i can win with, or enjoy. In fact, if i could respec i would switch back into the scout shotty. Its not the best class in the world but im good with it, i enjoy it and most importantly, it is balanced enough to compete. I could enjoy dust again if i was able to play a class that has the ability to compete and something i like. Same gos for pretty much everyone Okay, this is just annoying me, the word is losing. Not loosing. For god's sake, it makes me want to brain someone with a soup spoon every single time I see anyone type that. You don't enjoy it because you lose. You want to spec into something you can win with. I believe in keeping with the design of the game and having your choices matter. We are at odds, and you keep insulting me for supporting the dev's position of no more respecs, resets, or whatever else you would like to term it. Are you sure you're good with it? Or are you remembering the borked hit detection that was the only thing that kept people from shredding you? They mostly fixed the close range hit detection. I don't need to be "competitive" seeing as competitive means playing this as a job, and playing something that's needed, not fun. As I mentioned earlier, I have two jobs already, and do not need a third. You seem to support doing this as such, and I would suggest just getting a job, they pay better than playing video games all day.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 426	Posted - 2013.07.30 06:54:00 - [28] - Quote I break sieges with nothing but militia. to kill with each shell, and pelt a heavy with a perfectly cooked grenade right in his/her(can't tell on the field) soft bits. I lead the charge and the protos come in after. It's not all gear, some of it is just knowing the situation, and doing the unexpected. My enjoyment comes from seeing a proto die and knowing that I won with inferior gear. Sorry that you need to have better to do better. I'm used to doing more with less.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 428	Posted - 2013.07.30 07:05:00 - [29] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: I break sieges with nothing but militia. to kill with each shell, and pelt a heavy with a perfectly cooked grenade right in his/her(can't tell on the field) soft bits. I lead the charge and the protos come in after. It's not all gear, some of it is just knowing the situation, and doing the unexpected. My enjoyment comes from seeing a proto die and knowing that I won with inferior gear. Sorry that you need to have better to do better. I'm used to doing more with less. in pubs... lol. You will not be brought to any serious endevor in dust with milita gear. Js And I don't want to. So much bluster and bullshit, and you run into sooooo many more FOTM chasing douchebags there. people who only play this broken game to be "competitive" by using the most broken crap they can find. I'm happier in pub matches, much more variety of players and stratagems. No "ONLY ONE JOB PER PERSON! YOU BETTER BE USING THE STATISTICALLY BEST GUN AND SUIT FOR YOUR ROLE! SKILL DOESN'T MATTER, IT'S ALL GEAR!" people like you to annoy me.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 431	Posted - 2013.07.30 19:11:00 - [30] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: xAckie wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Bro militia and starter fits is all that I run.....all of the time. How else can I keep a kdr of 1.6 to 2 and closeing fast on a billion isk? Why a billion - serious question - for a personal achievement perhaps? As far as I can see hording ISK is in part breaking the RPG element of this game (as well as the lack of an mmo / open world experience, stuck in a 16 v 16 experience). My fits are free and in the 1k to 3k range so the isk just keeps piling up. And its fun to have enemies in advanced suits and even some protos see me in a militia or starter fit and the assume its an easy kill. Plus with all the flaylocks, fused locus, invisible enemies and Charbydis murder taxis its less stressfull to die in a starter fit then when its a proto fit. Plus folks keep telling me that its impossible to run militia and starter fits. And I say really?? It's not impossible, you're just playing on hard mode. I'm a tanker who spends more time out of his tanks than in. I like hard mode.

Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 438	Posted - 2013.08.02 06:31:00 - [31] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: damn, my respec thread turned into a tank thread Who're the people most in need of a respec? Dropship pilots. followed very closely by tankers. We won't even get a single **ing balance pass for at least 6 **ing months.