I disagree, whole heartedly. I believe CCP should take a chance, if you are correct they will know within a month and change it back no harm done. If you are incorrect we could have a phenomenal new game on our hands.

FOTM is a pain in the arse yes. but to respec everytime someone gets nerfed isnt the answer.
instead ccp needs to stop the fotm and actually use the made and released model in game vs the players of the community and test it to see if its op. then decide if it needs balancing or nerfing then put it into game after its been tweaked out to the point that it is fair.

do i agree with a respec? no because 98% of people who spec'ed into the flaylock knew what it was and what it did. new players arent joining this community so everyone knew what it was. the excuse of i didnt know the logi or the flaylock was op is an excuse.

exmaple u a cool dude and i respect you but i do not agree with you on this and on a respec. this only gives people like me and you 15mill or 20 mill sp a chance to rain dominance and ruin fun times for the new players that are trying to creap into this game and it makes pc matches unbalanced because u got tryhards who use exploit tactics to win games rather then to actually use gun game.

That's what we need. CCP to remake the game again, try to rebalance again, read every respec and QQ balance thread again and be mocked by some armchair game developer again. We need a new game like we need a bigger blast radius on a flaylock.

Allowing respecs is not going to do anything for the game except cause more problems because the data from the previous day will change because I like a shotgun more today than yesterday. I still haven't heard one good reason - barring missing suits and vehicles - that warrants respecs. The reasons I see are usually short sighted and do not address the problems the game actually has.

Player retention is bad because this is not a game you can be l33t at in a day. The learning curve is steep and choices do effect how you play. Gamers are not used to the idea of persistence and it flies in the face of every other game fps players play. The grind mentality hurts the player base and causes burn out very quickly. Stagnation due to lack of content and low numbers. CCP does things differently when compared to the other game developers and it comes off as them ignoring us, not listening or general ineptness. Not one of these problems will be solved by giving back SP, we will be in the same spot in one month or less and I will have to thumb out this diatribe almost verbatim.

Play the game for fun and not for SP. Play the game you want to play and not for what is best. Don't grind. I know this sounds stupid but RP some because it does add to the experience. Come to the forums to provide feedback but don't let them pull you down under the bridge. PLAY OTHER GAMES because games are supposed to be fun not a source of stress.

Its not all about the ppl who speced into FOTM, its about ppl who spec into a class and get nerfed to the point were they dont want to play anymore like heavys, lazers, dropships and tanks. Thats is a significant amount of players and more ppl quit each day because of this injustice. What other solution is there than respecs? wait 6 months for things to be balanced?

Its not all about the ppl who speced into FOTM, its about ppl who spec into a class and get nerfed to the point were they dont want to play anymore like heavys, lazers, dropships and tanks. Thats is a significant amount of players and more ppl quit each day because of this injustice. What other solution is there than respecs? wait 6 months for things to be balanced?

The solution is to live with it.

If your choices lack permanence, then they are meaningless. Notably you got this whole thing entirely ****ing wrong last time. I said it to mean that you should have to live with the choice you made. Permanently. If your choices aren't permanent, then they are meaningless. this does not mean that balance should be locked and stagnant. it means your choices, once locked in should be unchangeable. so you specced into something that was obviously OP and headed for nerf-city, full steam ahead? Now try to spec into something you actually like.

What about the **** that not out yet? Not our fault we had to choose something else because the amarr tanks arnt out yet and stuff like that..your basically telling all these players to wait till all the racials are out

The solution is to live with it.

If your choices lack permanence, then they are meaningless. Notably you got this whole thing entirely ****ing wrong last time. I said it to mean that you should have to live with the choice you made. Permanently. If your choices aren't permanent, then they are meaningless. this does not mean that balance should be locked and stagnant. it means your choices, once locked in should be unchangeable. so you specced into something that was obviously OP and headed for nerf-city, full steam ahead? Now try to spec into something you actually like.

What about the **** that not out yet? Not our fault we had to choose something else because the amarr tanks arnt out yet and stuff like that..your basically telling all these players to wait till all the racials are out

work your core skills and spec into a facsimile of what you want. then when you know it's coming out, stockpile your resources for a bit beforehand and immediately proto it.

yup... just like the EVE players had to do for 10 years...

So then you gota run ****** ass gear tell it comes out...I disagree that's stupid...shouldn't even play till the gear comes out then

So then you gota run ****** ass gear tell it comes out...I disagree that's stupid...shouldn't even play till the gear comes out then

militia gear with tons of SP into core skills is actually pretty insane

This is DUST not eve...

really? there isn't an armor tank in the game yet? somebody tell the gallente guys they're supposed to be running shield mods then.

did I say use **** gear? no, I said spec into a facsimile(amarr? use gallente., minmatar? use caldari.) and work your core skills, these get you the things you really need,(your tank, your modules, etc etc)

made by CCP... dont expect it to be that much different...

Your saying... you would take milita gear into a PC/FW match? Or against a good team in a pub? wow. Dust is done

This is an FPS were it matters if your suck on your 16 man team, its way different than space boats shooting each other

Working your core skills is not going to turn your class around for the next 6 months. In fact, the 15 mill SP you have prolly maxed them out. When your class is nerfed it doesent matter if their maxed or untouched, you loose. Thats all there is. Loosing your suits and vehicals

FOTM is a pain in the arse yes. but to respec everytime someone gets nerfed isnt the answer.
instead ccp needs to stop the fotm and actually use the made and released model in game vs the players of the community and test it to see if its op. then decide if it needs balancing or nerfing then put it into game after its been tweaked out to the point that it is fair.

do i agree with a respec? no because 98% of people who spec'ed into the flaylock knew what it was and what it did. new players arent joining this community so everyone knew what it was. the excuse of i didnt know the logi or the flaylock was op is an excuse.

exmaple u a cool dude and i respect you but i do not agree with you on this and on a respec. this only gives people like me and you 15mill or 20 mill sp a chance to rain dominance and ruin fun times for the new players that are trying to creap into this game and it makes pc matches unbalanced because u got tryhards who use exploit tactics to win games rather then to actually use gun game.

Too late new players bounced see grinding for 3 mill sp was cute, it's no longer cute. When a game becomes a 2nd job rather than being fun it's doimed. Repecs keep the game fresh and fun.

It also buys CCP time to tweak, and make Money off the respecs. Nope they want ti carry the Eve mantra will not work on console players.

I love EVE one of the best video games ever made i have fun. Dust is not Eve it's a 2nd job and i already have demanding job.

Hence why i play video games to relax and keyword have FUN.

Stick with no respecs and have fun with little bit players you have.

Next up will be merging the servers due to low player counts to save money.

SO MAD!! x) Im a sheild tanker too and i have missles as well. Thats the diffrence between you and me (besides your a dumbass scrub) your fine with sucking at this game, being a non factor and not being included in PC because ppl know very well that you will not pull your weight, that you will not contribute to a winning team, that you are a worthless trash player who amounts to nothing, as evident by your npc corp. All becuase you play a class nerfed by CCP

works for me.... just asked most of the channels im in... majority said they dont mind it... sooo... we will miss those who quit... and will see you after BF4 gets old

The other difference is that I can spell properly and I don't spend my time bitching about things that won't change. I ***** about things that are being changed, but are moving too slowly for my tastes. And again, being forced to play better because I work against more while using less does come with advantages.

They are not permante because CCP chances the classes your spend SP on.

This... we're not at a point where there is permanence in your decisions, as the classes change all of the time.

And there is a distinct difference between enjoying your time as a non factor in an npc corp derping in pub matches and wanting to be an integral part of a corp participating in high level corp matches.

I'm seriously starting to think... if you play competitively, you're best off just quitting. Maybe come back in a year or two once its on the PS4 and somewhat balanced with most of the missing basic content finally added in. By then im sure a respec will have been issue, and you can come back to 30-40 million unallocated SP.