Sadly. a motivator in why i stand up to the haters, speds, Devs and derps who vote against respecs. Because iknow first hand what its like to invest time and SP into a class and have it ruined due to balancing. I would gladly respec if i could, to have a fighting chance and be useful again but i cant becuase im doomed to play the mistake CCP gave me. Myslef and others

For tankers should be given a respec..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T85rSUPT5w8&feature=youtube_gdata_player , ill sign

I support it for vehicles but none of those calogis anything but them

Yes those evil caldari logis should pay for their sins!

For tankers should be given a respec..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T85rSUPT5w8&feature=youtube_gdata_player , ill sign

Not so much that its OP but after the respec everyone went to it even though they knew it would get nerfed

Not so much that its OP but after the respec everyone went to it even though they knew it would get nerfed

Not so much that its OP but after the respec everyone went to it even though they knew it would get nerfed

LOLOL +1 so hard

What if some people spec'd into it, wanting a shield tanked logistics, knowing full well the shield buff was probably going to be removed, but then are forced to deal with -40 base CPU. They tried to predict CCPs nerfs and failed. Now they have to pay for it. Running a logi class that might not be suited to what they intended from the get go?

Saying oh they have 9 slots stfu and gtfo is the reasonable answer?

Honestly, after they fix armor, min logi and gal logi will be the much better choice, and many of those guys who picked cal logi to logi with shields would probably have picked min... Now they just have to live with it... I think its ****** personally.

I actually think the CPU nerf is probably perfect for balance. But it's not what people bought with their 10 weeks of SP.

Hopefully we can see a respec for logis in 1.4, once they redone bonuses. Cause sounds like the changes are drastic.

That was the first thing that came to my mind when I heard tanks, I love them so much but they suck

Well I get that but the people that think they should have the bonus the highs lows and the equipment and use it for assault purposes..for true logis I apologize

"Don't play with that, it'll get nerfed", shouldn't be a required line of thinking when judging what to skill into.

It's the same song and dance for anything that gets nerfed in this game though, you know?

It's the reason I'm advocating respecs on changes... So people can adapt to nerfs/buffs CCP implements. I have no personal agenda here.

I had to, I looked at it and thought and thought then decided wasn't worth the chance if you can see it coming why not avoid it?

It's a huge black mark for any new content, if players have to constantly worry about trying new toys which might be broken for their trouble. It's a whole lot of forbidden fruit nonsense which only stigmatizes player experimentation. New content is going to keep the game alive, having to worry about booty traps within said new content is going to drive players away.

It's a huge black mark for any new content, if players have to constantly worry about trying new toys which might be broken for their trouble. It's a whole lot of forbidden fruit nonsense which only stigmatizes player experimentation. New content is going to keep the game alive, having to worry about booty traps within said new content is going to drive players away.

I support it for vehicles but none of those calogis anything but them

as much as i agree that they dont diserve respecs for that logi abuse their class was molested by ccp so im morally inclined to say they should have respecs. reluctantly, of course but its the right thing to say ;3

You play a properly balanced, fair and fun class. Liking the class, you dump all 15 mill SP to your name into the class. Suddenly, new build/patch comes around and your class is nerfed without your consent and you now suck at the game. You spawn in your proto suit or your vehical and you are killed over and over, loosing all your ISK. You are told you can not play PC because the one class you are good at, sucks. Nobody wants you in any serious endeavor in dust because your class is nerfed to the point of uselessness. Like current shield tanks, dropships, lazers, plasma cannons and soon to be armor tanks when they fix the bug that is causing them to be balanced. You no longer want to play dust, as the class you played is ruined and so is your ability to enjoy playing dust, because the developers ruined the class you speced into. CCP later anounes that they will not be fixing your class for many months and they ask you to accept their most sincere apologies, despite changing the class that you speced into many months beforehand. Should you get a respec? This happened to the classes mentioned previously and will happen again when the fix the armor tanks

Respecs have a few unique advantages though.

1. They show the metrics for FOTM much clearer to CCP, getting us closer to balance faster.
2. They allow people to spec into FOTM counters until FOTM can get fixed.
3. They don't alienate players who've been nerfed into oblivion by a 'balance patch' like tankers and scouts and heavies.
4. They can clearly see which suits are underutilized since people don't have to use them anymore, instead... People are just stuck with ****** suits and left to complain endlessly on the forum until they give up and quit the game.

You play a properly balanced, fair and fun class. Liking the class, you dump all 15 mill SP to your name into the class. Suddenly, new build/patch comes around and your class is nerfed without your consent and you now suck at the game. You spawn in your proto suit or your vehical and you are killed over and over, loosing all your ISK. You are told you can not play PC because the one class you are good at, sucks. Nobody wants you in any serious endeavor in dust because your class is nerfed to the point of uselessness. Like current shield tanks, dropships, lazers, plasma cannons and soon to be armor tanks when they fix the bug that is causing them to be balanced. You no longer want to play dust, as the class you played is ruined and so is your ability to enjoy playing dust, because the developers ruined the class you speced into. CCP later anounes that they will not be fixing your class for many months and they ask you to accept their most sincere apologies, despite changing the class that you speced into many months beforehand. Should you get a respec? This happened to the classes mentioned previously and will happen again when the fix the armor tanks

Probably the same reason why even after my optional respec, went back into the Mass Driver, which was bugged, and Minmatar logi, which was lumped up with the CaLogi during everyone's nerf witch hunt. It's something you find fun, like doing, and you have faith in the developers that they'll make things right. If everyone cared more about being effective than having fun, we'd all be running around in shield tanking suits and ARs.

Exmaple Core, I've been in the same boat you're in now. Not just with Dust or EVE, but in a lot of online games. Some of us are too stubborn to take the road less traveled with hopes that it pays off in the end. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't, there's no guarantee. The only thing you can really do is think of the good times, or dream of the possible good times around the corner. If you decide to do anything that matters- don't give up. Whether it's too expensive, underpowered, or your peers don't respect what you do, find a way to keep things going- keep the faith and do it because it's what you like doing.

"Adapt or Die..."

Once we've reached some semblance of balance, respecs won't be necessary. But the people on this forum are dellusional if they think we are balanced now or will be balanced by the end of the year.

FOTM is a symptom of bad balance, not of the ability to respec.