You left out my personal favourite. Ambushing and shooting from behind with an Ion Pistol.

You're bad at killing snipers?

Mate, I've outlined a halfdozen ways to kill a sniper who's deep in the red line. Post #29 of that feedback thread. It's really not that difficult - just takes a little :effort:.

Have yet to experience. Is it exciting?

I was a full time sniper for 6 months starting at open beta. I know how to kill them but its a waste of time. I can spend my time killing them and not helping the team or i can be a sniper full time and still contribute little to the team. I play to win the match not to get kills or make my fake K/D look good. I snipe when its needed and do it from under 300m not hiding on top of a tower or in the redline.

Know why it's not worth it? 'Cause they're not killing enough from back there. So it doesn't really matter - they're not effective from the red line. But they don't know that. Because they're worried about fake K/D, as you put it.

You know how I do it? From whatever is the best spot that gives me vantage over the most territory, or the most important territory. You know why I get fewer than 20 kills in a match when I snipe? Because I'm focused on counter-sniping, stopping hacks if I'm in a vantage that affords me that ability, and popping uplinks and nanohives in high places that the rest of the team couldn't otherwise get to. Every. Single. Match. I get up to my perch and I watch a logi fly a dropship to a rooftop and put down half a dozen links. If I can pop him, I do. If he has too much HP, I wait for him to fly away then I clear the links (K/D scrubs will leave the links be, trying to farm them for kills, letting scores of mercs spawn and run to the edge to drop down) - if I shoot him and he doesn't go down, now he knows I'm there and if he's smart, he'll figure out exactly where I am real quick. Which I have to worry about. Because I'm not in the red line.

The red line is the problem. Not the range I'm using to effect the outcome of the match.

cal scout

DO NOT WANT QUICKSCOPE BULLSHIT.

You left out my personal favourite. Ambushing and shooting from behind with an Ion Pistol.

This seems to be the only recurring theme.

You play the sniper your way, I'll play it mine. We should both have the option to approach the role as suits our play style. Nerfing my range to buff your scout as a sniper hunter (because really, how long does it take to close within killing distance if the deficit if 50m? 1 second? 2? And **** "less scope sway", scope sway is fine. This isn't COD or Destiny or CS:GO or whatever other FPS game - DO NOT WANT QUICKSCOPE BULLSHIT.

Going into a crouch and waiting a second for the scope to settle and then being laser focused in an even narrower field of vision than we already have as the norm, and you're supposed to do something other than repeatedly die how?

If they do what you're describing, they'd better put respecs on the table, because I've got Proficiency 3 into a weapon and a ton of SP into a suit that I have absolutely no other use for.

**** that.

Please, quickscoping is for noobs.
Pros do a 360 no-scope.

Judge also made a youtube video "illustrating" how swarms that seem to explode into thin air and not ever hit the ADS they're chasing really are hitting. I've flown dropships away from swarms and taken no damage. I've fired swarms, watched them chase the dropship and explode 100m behind the vehicle, switched to my sniper rifle and seen through the scope/target intel that no, in fact, no damage was taken. All the fancy flying and slowing down just long enough to let one or two of the missiles catch up to him once he was well out of harm's way and could eat a volley made for good theatrics, but doesn't change the fact that either swarms need a buff (missile speed) or ADS need a nerf. Instead, through his cult of personality/leetness/whatever, he managed to lobby for a Python buff AND get himself elected to the CPM.

gg Judge. But you're full of ****.

Dear players


Weapons
Sidearms - rebalance in a similar way as rifles were, ranges, requirements and damage, mainly through buffing and tuning existing weapon behaviour (reducing ion seize, ROF on scrambler, flaylock power and blast radius, to name a few ideas)

Add all Miltia Sidearms and Miltia HMG to Market

Snipers - We simply cannot have snipers so far away in the redzone they cannot be touched, while also being immune to countersniping. However, we also want to improve the Improved headshot damage, decreased range, improved damage. We have been studying Domination maps, and some of the farthest redline sniper spots that can camp the Objective to get a good gauge of the situation. There cannot be a risk free way of playing the game, for each role there must be a counter.

Swarms - efficiency against assault dropships needs to be improved fairly, there are a few ways (increased speed, nerf afterburners, increased lock on timers, probably not lock on range nor damage). We will buff normal dropship ehp to make up for their shortcomings.

Rifles - tweaks to Scrambler, Assault Scrambler and Assault Rifles (plasma)

Assault HMG buffed, burst HMG needs a slight tune down

Dropsuits
Minmatar dropsuits - small ehp buff across the board


Turrets
Small Rail ROF reduced

Large Blaster splash reduced

Small Blaster splash increased, maybe range increase

Vehicles
HAV inertia increased so switching from forward to backward movement is more realistic, and reduce fuel injector boost to speed.

Shield based HAV and DS buffed ehp, Gunnlogi and Myron

Other
Damage profiles - Projectiles (Combat Rifles, etc) to -15%, 15%, or -20/+20 from -5%, +10%, plus fixing turret damage profiles to match intended design

Shield Modules - 15% or so CPU reduction of Energizers, Regulators and Rechargers

Nanite Injectors - heal same amount of shields as armor, yes quite a buff

Nova Knife optimization skill added

Add new Officer Light Weapons as well as key missing FW items to the LP Store

Anyone know if the Devs fixed the CalScout's range bonus yet?

Okay, for those who don't know, I'm learning to fly. It's going well now, last two days SUCKED. I'm managing to get the feel of flying down and also learning how to respond to various threats.

Have a Dropships perspective on AV.

Forges: Stay Away. Don't even bother. It takes so many missiles to kill them they aren't worth your time. Forges create a definite "No Fly Zone". You get hit by one, you turn on afterburner and GTFO.

Swarms: Annoying. Kill them if there is only 1. More than one? GTFO. On my ADS (Python with ~3000 shields and Afterburner) I can safely take a single clip of swarms. After that, I'm either into armor or REALLY LOW on shields (Depends on the suit. Commando's routinely put me into armor and earn the Stay Away tactic). Once again, best defense is to afterburn and GTFO.

Rail Tanks: It depends. Rail's in the redline make a no-fly zone in 300m of where they are. I can't kill them, and most can 2-3 shot me. So I just stay away. If they are on the field, I fly just above them and harass with missiles. The main goal is to weaken and distract them for other tanks to eliminate, or to push them into the redline.

Blaster Tanks: Same practice really, except you have to be more careful. Blasters are far more effective against my DS.

Plasma Cannon: Kill em. Reload time takes too long, and with good circle strafing you are pretty hard to hit. I've been driven off by good shots though.

---

Okay, so you might get a feel of how the ADS is now. It really is an opportunistic killer. Think "Sky Shark" and you have the right idea. I kill what I can and run from what can hurt me. Strong AV nets will make me completely useless. Really. 2 Swarms and 1 Forge can make my life living hell. Especially if they are determined.

Those matches where you see ADS dominate? I've found out why. It really is a team effort. I have performed best in an ADS with a Tank on the ground, A squad mate running AV and everyone else slaying. Tank keeps away strong vehicle threats and AV allows me to fly without fear of other ADS'. Infantry can then deal with any other AV. In a team effort, the ADS can basically roam the battlefield in impunity and severely WRECK the opposition.

Personal thoughts on AV strength: They feel fine right now. Every single one of the above can be a threat and has a definite chance of killing me if I DON'T run away. Swarms always force me out if on a suit that can survive more than 2 missile shots.

Personal thoughts on dropships: They feel fine as well. They need to nerf the arfterburner though. It's a great escape tool, but it has a 10s cooldown. 7.5s with max skills. It's far too easy to quickly run away, regen, come back, and then run away again. Afterbuner needs a cooldown nerf. Badly.

Also: Please note that I am only lvl 3 shield modules and lvl. 1 missile. This all might change with better skills and turrets. Will update as I go along.

EDIT:

Side note: I completely hate the idea of "Sky Tanks". That's dumb and bad. The only dropship that should be hard to take down is a properly fit transport DS, which is more focused on occupant survival than it is on offense.

We might see transport DS more, as the base DS is getting an HP buff in delta, and they are bringing back small turret splash. Two small blasters on a DS will be VERY effective at clearing out the LZ for an infantry drop. I would love to see this in action.

tldr : flying: booooo, then WEEEEEEEEEEE

So would these be accurate?

http://imgur.com/5GhAbWC
http://imgur.com/clpTjVK

Those don't look to scale.

Ashland looks like it has has 600m diameter, while fracture road looks like a 600m radius

EDIT: Ah, I see what you did there. You're assuming that each area is 100x100m. They are not. There either is, or was, a disclaimer in the maps section that says all maps are not sectioned off equally

Ah I forgot there was some maps that were to scale at 100,100 per square others not so much; I forgot which ones specifically though. Like I said judge has the better scale maps than I do.

On Ashland right now. It is 296m from D to E

Ah I forgot there was some maps that were to scale at 100,100 per square others not so much; I forgot which ones specifically though. Like I said judge has the better scale maps than I do.

MCC at G-11 and the sniper location at C-5 are over 600m apart, for Ashland

While the MCC at H-0 and [B] at h-6 is also more than 600m apart, for Fractured Road

On Ashland right now. It is 296m from D to E

Can confirm he is on Ashland.

Source: Am right behind him.

lol, the distance between [E] and [D] on Ashland is closer than [A] and [B] on fractured road.

Based on Case's reckoning

http://imgur.com/5DtdJop
http://i.imgur.com/11N6FVy.jpg

next step is to shade out where you can't actually hit target