I much rather we get increased nova knife range, increased movement speed while holding knives, or the ability to sprint with them.

Not change a stat on all suits to compensate for the nova knives.

I don't think you've grasped the concept about how bad ideas, they're kinda bad.

Frisbee remotes were a bad idea, 100% backpedal speed is a bad idea, Pre-armor plate buff asking for AR buffs was a bad idea.

OMG they increased the det time on REs. This has changed the entire way the game is played. I can suicide bomb an entire squad that's packed themselves into a point. I can toss my RE detonate it before someone gets the chance to shoot me anymore.
I don't have to worry about jolly tossing an RE over a wall right onto my Sentinel/Commando because now I have time to move away from it.
This didn't just change REs it changed the whole way I play! So unfair they never should have done that!

*sigh* I wish you needed to be at least 18 or have constant parental supervision when using the DUST forums.

You don't even know how to knife, first of all.

Second of all, it sounds like you just want exploits and buffs.


Well.. let's be real. That is all you want, poser.

Second of all, it sounds like you just want exploits and buffs.

Well.. let's be real. That is all you want, poser.

Is circle strafing game breaking?
Is covering fire while retreating game breaking?
Are my CQC tactics game breaking?

Also, since when is backpedal speed 100%?

Are you ******* serious? -_-
That's the whole point to this. It is now and has always been 100%.

Well, it's obvious you have your mind set on it and no amount of arguing is going to change your mind.

If you had a real argument- and circle strafing, or the weapons it affects are not valid arguments. It now sounds liek you are just talking to hear yourself talk really.



Poser?
What's that supposed to mean?

Poser?
What's that supposed to mean?

If you had a real argument- and circle strafing, or the weapons it affects are not valid arguments. It now sounds liek you are just talking to hear yourself talk really.

It means you are a fake scout. Because you are. You have no idea how to knife, but you can in the same breath, be sure about wha tis what on how they should be changed? GTFO with that bullshite.

You not real Scout. You bring great shame too this thread. You must commit seppuku.

But really folks. Reducing backpedal just so Knives are buffed is incredibly stupid, and also very selfish. Silly selfish Scouts.

You not real Scout. You bring great shame too this thread. You must commit seppuku.

But really folks. Reducing backpedal just so Knives are buffed is incredibly stupid, and also very selfish. Silly selfish Scouts.

You not real Scout. You bring great shame too this thread. You must commit seppuku.

But really folks. Reducing backpedal just so Knives are buffed is incredibly stupid, and also very selfish. Silly selfish Scouts.

Aside from Nova Knives and SG's, I never, ever had any problems with backpedaling.

I want you guys to explain why it's broken.
Because I really don't see it.

It is a real argument, you want to change a dynamic of a game that I have never seen bother anyone aside for NK's and SG users.
Rather than buffing those two, you want to change the dynamic that people have got used to for over 2 years now.

I want to see what valid argument you have.


Oh STFU, these changes I've seen suggested by the very people in the Barbershop.
YOU people have suggested this, I didn't pull this out of my ass.

So by your logic, none of you know how to knife.

Dust 514 - Scan Table - Presently: GOOGLE DOCS
Dust 514 - Scan Table - Hotfix Charlie: GOOGLE DOCS

^ Before and after for easy comparison.

Tourists, heuheuheu.

I think the backpedal is fine, Knives need sprint charge. Simple as.

And make knives OP?

No thank you.

Besides, they have already stated that is not going to be on the table.

And make knives OP?

No thank you.

Besides, they have already stated that is not going to be on the table.

If CCP don't like that idea. Then it just proves how good of an idea it is.

Yes, so I didn't know what the backpedal speed is.
So what?

What does that change?


Go ahead, spell it out for me, because I have yet to see a proper argument.
"It's not realistic" is not valid.

Would they really be OP?
Back when the glitch existed I didn't have issues with nova knives.
It's still highly risky, even if you can sprint while charged.

I'm serious guys.
Go ahead, explain to me why the backpedal is bad.

When I first came here I asked about the effects of kin cats in high slots.
For Assaults it would work out, but I didn't have enough knowledge about scouts to know the ramifications.

So I asked here, you guys gave arguments, and I saw that it's a bad idea.

Simple.

Back when the glitch existed, NK hit detection was attrocious.

I would stand behind a sniper, charge, see the blue shield flash, and deal no damage. Now that hit detection is mostly fixed on knives, it would be horribly OP.

If it were put it, I would make it a point to charge knife as many people as possible to get it removed.

Because that is not how locomotion in beings works. I have never heard of any animal that walks/runs forwards and backwards at the same speed.

This probably disproportionately affects shotguns, but I also use this if far enough from an HMG user. Then I can attack and run at the same time. It rewards bad tactics and punishes good ones.

I am confused by the Caldari being combined with the Gallente.

Are they getting a similar bonus to Gal scouts in charlie? So much stuff flying around, I can't keep everything straight.