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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2016.01.26 04:49:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote:Do you ever wonder why people are still posting to the Features and Ideas Discussion thread?
Because i have possible Features and Ideas that I'd like to Discuss.
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General Vahzz
PIanet Express
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Posted - 2016.01.26 04:54:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Ares 514 wrote:Do you ever wonder why people are still posting to the Features and Ideas Discussion thread? Because i have possible Features and Ideas that I'd like to Discuss. REKT!
You can bite my shiny metal ass.
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Sned TheDead
Failures inc.
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Posted - 2016.01.26 05:19:00 -
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Soto Gallente wrote:Figures, I try to state my point about basic suits and immediately get attacked. It wasn't so much you stating it, more the zorish attitude you took towards stating it that got you attacked.
And you were wrong.
Basic suits have a place.
Hell I would venture to say that they are more versitile then their specialized counterparts.
With that being said, a basic suit used as an assault vs assault suit (assuming equal skill and neither has the jump) assault will win.
Hands down.
One thing you can not do is come in state your opinion say you are right with no proof other than a one or two time thing and assume that everyone will agree with you.
So, next time, gather data, compare yourself to others, look at how user friendly it is (teach someone to use it, and see how quick they catch on).
Then formulate your argument, and finally subit it for review.
That is how these things work.
P.S. your corp name sucks fix it. And if you need to know why it sucks you didn't watch the movie close enough, because I caught it the first time I watched it.
RAIN!
Sned T. Dead
I am Undead
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2016.01.26 07:01:00 -
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General Vahzz wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:Basic suits are a part of this game, you can't deny it. It's not fair that they should not be brought into balance discussions. Give me a consistently valid reason as to how a basic suit brings ANY SORT of balance to this game. I dare you to not pull **** out of your ass.
Before we get too, froggy, bear in mind the only thing differentiating suit classes to begin with is speed and HP count as far as "behind the helmet" look/feel.
Once you break away from the extraneous crap, they all pretty much play the same way at the core level, with very little variation, and not much, if anything, to differentiate significantly between classes as far as actual functionality go.
My opinion of course.
Your Mileage may vary.
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Embrace your destiny.
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.26 14:24:00 -
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Sned TheDead wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:Figures, I try to state my point about basic suits and immediately get attacked. It wasn't so much you stating it, more the zorish attitude you took towards stating it that got you attacked. And you were wrong. Basic suits have a place. Hell I would venture to say that they are more versitile then their specialized counterparts. With that being said, a basic suit used as an assault vs assault suit (assuming equal skill and neither has the jump) assault will win. Hands down. One thing you can not do is come in state your opinion say you are right with no proof other than a one or two time thing and assume that everyone will agree with you. So, next time, gather data, compare yourself to others, look at how user friendly it is (teach someone to use it, and see how quick they catch on). Then formulate your argument, and finally subit it for review. That is how these things work. P.S. your corp name sucks fix it. And if you need to know why it sucks you didn't watch the movie close enough, because I caught it the first time I watched it. That was the point, much like Vader (Vader's-Fist) lost his hand. So has Kylo Ren.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2016.01.26 14:28:00 -
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Interesting conversation here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3086875#post3086875
Thad's proposing a less binary EWAR system. One where scanned returns are not constant, but rather blip onscreen at different intervals calculated from the difference between profile and precision.
For Zor's sake, an illustration with sounds:
Scout gets scanned: Blip ...... blip ..... blip
Heavy gets scanned: Blip blip blip blip blip
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.26 14:30:00 -
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Saw an interesting thread in Features and Ideas on scouts and ewar, you guys should check it out.
Edit: Dang it Shotty!
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2016.01.26 15:55:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Interesting conversation here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3086875#post3086875Thad's proposing a less binary EWAR system. One where scanned returns are not constant, but rather blip onscreen at calculated intervals. The interval would be derived from measuring the difference between scanner's precision and scannee's profile. For Zor's sake, an illustration with sounds and no numbers: Triple damped Gal Scout gets scanned: ...............
'The hell?' *scans again* .......... 'Must be broken.' *gets shotgunned* 'Ohhhhhhhh... that explains it.'
Assault gets scanned: Blip .. blip .. blip .. blip
Heavy gets scanned: Blip blip blip blip blip
Dampened Heavy gets scanned: Blip .. blip .. blip .. blip
And so on ...I understand that Thad's is not an entirely novel suggestion, but I think you'll all agree that it is good to see old ideas coming from new places.
Just to clarify.
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Sned TheDead
Failures inc.
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Posted - 2016.01.26 16:24:00 -
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Soto Gallente wrote:Sned TheDead wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:Figures, I try to state my point about basic suits and immediately get attacked. It wasn't so much you stating it, more the zorish attitude you took towards stating it that got you attacked. And you were wrong. Basic suits have a place. Hell I would venture to say that they are more versitile then their specialized counterparts. With that being said, a basic suit used as an assault vs assault suit (assuming equal skill and neither has the jump) assault will win. Hands down. One thing you can not do is come in state your opinion say you are right with no proof other than a one or two time thing and assume that everyone will agree with you. So, next time, gather data, compare yourself to others, look at how user friendly it is (teach someone to use it, and see how quick they catch on). Then formulate your argument, and finally subit it for review. That is how these things work. P.S. your corp name sucks fix it. And if you need to know why it sucks you didn't watch the movie close enough, because I caught it the first time I watched it. That was the point, much like Vader (Vader's-Fist) lost his hand. So has Kylo Ren. Did he? Really? Look closer, he still has his hand at the end of the fight.
As I said you need to look closer at the scene ;)
The jedi just knocks it out of his hand, the jedi does not cut it off.
RAIN!
Sned T. Dead
I am Undead
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General Vahzz
PIanet Express
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Posted - 2016.01.26 16:30:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:General Vahzz wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:Basic suits are a part of this game, you can't deny it. It's not fair that they should not be brought into balance discussions. Give me a consistently valid reason as to how a basic suit brings ANY SORT of balance to this game. I dare you to not pull **** out of your ass. Before we get too, froggy, bear in mind the only thing differentiating suit classes to begin with is speed and HP count as far as "behind the helmet" look/feel. Once you break away from the extraneous crap, they all pretty much play the same way at the core level, with very little variation, and not much, if anything, to differentiate significantly between classes as far as actual functionality go. My opinion of course. Your Mileage may vary. Breakin, I respect you, I like you, because you are the only person unphased by my ****; but all you said is they are barely different at core level.
Now, I understand; of course at core level they fit the same bill, can be fitted almost the same way. But we will get to that. And they are in fact not the same. I can go out in a Cal Sentinel with a Forge and bury some massasses in thunder, as i can with the Amarr Sentinel. Why? Because of the resistance to shield and armor respectively. Now, I can kind of do the same in the basic frame, but i would die in the process, because the mass driver does more damage, plus the lessened base HP on the basic frames.
I am only using sentinels as an example, because you are in fact a fatty, and we have explained why scouts are better 100x over already.
Now, what about layout? You can do more with the sentinels, because the basics have less slots. Also less PG CPU, so you can't fit as much armor or shields. Why am I throwing the painfully obvious in? Because Blaze seems to miss the obvious, goes right over his head like a churro over the head of a man who loves churros.
I seem to have concluded at the obvious. Roled suits are better, who ******* cares about bandwidth? Oh oh, i can fit one more link than you guuuuuuys, so that makes me a pretty pretty princess.
Again, I respect you Breakin, but the core level of play does not matter so much.
You can bite my shiny metal ass.
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General Vahzz
PIanet Express
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Posted - 2016.01.26 16:32:00 -
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Sned TheDead wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:Sned TheDead wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:Figures, I try to state my point about basic suits and immediately get attacked. It wasn't so much you stating it, more the zorish attitude you took towards stating it that got you attacked. And you were wrong. Basic suits have a place. Hell I would venture to say that they are more versitile then their specialized counterparts. With that being said, a basic suit used as an assault vs assault suit (assuming equal skill and neither has the jump) assault will win. Hands down. One thing you can not do is come in state your opinion say you are right with no proof other than a one or two time thing and assume that everyone will agree with you. So, next time, gather data, compare yourself to others, look at how user friendly it is (teach someone to use it, and see how quick they catch on). Then formulate your argument, and finally subit it for review. That is how these things work. P.S. your corp name sucks fix it. And if you need to know why it sucks you didn't watch the movie close enough, because I caught it the first time I watched it. That was the point, much like Vader (Vader's-Fist) lost his hand. So has Kylo Ren. Did he? Really? Look closer, he still has his hand at the end of the fight. As I said you need to look closer at the scene ;) The jedi just knocks it out of his hand, the jedi does not cut it off.
Anakins arms got burned off in the battle against Obi Wan in the lava pits, which brought about the suit for Vader. Which is why Darth Vader can't use force light ing, no real hands.
Kylo Ren, still had his hands, or else he would be screaming like ****.
You can bite my shiny metal ass.
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Sned TheDead
Failures inc.
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Posted - 2016.01.26 16:45:00 -
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General Vahzz wrote:Sned TheDead wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:Sned TheDead wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:Figures, I try to state my point about basic suits and immediately get attacked. It wasn't so much you stating it, more the zorish attitude you took towards stating it that got you attacked. And you were wrong. Basic suits have a place. Hell I would venture to say that they are more versitile then their specialized counterparts. With that being said, a basic suit used as an assault vs assault suit (assuming equal skill and neither has the jump) assault will win. Hands down. One thing you can not do is come in state your opinion say you are right with no proof other than a one or two time thing and assume that everyone will agree with you. So, next time, gather data, compare yourself to others, look at how user friendly it is (teach someone to use it, and see how quick they catch on). Then formulate your argument, and finally subit it for review. That is how these things work. P.S. your corp name sucks fix it. And if you need to know why it sucks you didn't watch the movie close enough, because I caught it the first time I watched it. That was the point, much like Vader (Vader's-Fist) lost his hand. So has Kylo Ren. Did he? Really? Look closer, he still has his hand at the end of the fight. As I said you need to look closer at the scene ;) The jedi just knocks it out of his hand, the jedi does not cut it off. Anakins arms got burned off in the battle against Obi Wan in the lava pits, which brought about the suit for Vader. Which is why Darth Vader can't use force light ing, no real hands. Kylo Ren, still had his hands, or else he would be screaming like ****. One thing that always frustrated me, no force lighting right?
Then why the hell can he force choke?
Wouldn't you need hands for that too?
RAIN!
Sned T. Dead
I am Undead
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General Vahzz
PIanet Express
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Posted - 2016.01.26 17:30:00 -
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No, he can still control the force; but force lightning comes from the finger tips, where the force doesn't. The force, is everywhere. It is in every living thing, it swirls around permeating the galaxy. There is no good or evil to the force, there is no true dark and light. The force just is.
While artificial, Darth Vader's robotic hands are still a part of him, he only wears the suit so he can live. It allows him to wield a lightsaber and use the force. But since they are artificial and not real fleshly hands, he can not use the force to produce lightning. He can only use part of the force.
He was so limited to what he can do, but that didn't take away from his sheer might.
Kylo is just an emotional brat, no true sith.
You can bite my shiny metal ass.
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.26 18:09:00 -
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Sned TheDead wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:Sned TheDead wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:Figures, I try to state my point about basic suits and immediately get attacked. It wasn't so much you stating it, more the zorish attitude you took towards stating it that got you attacked. And you were wrong. Basic suits have a place. Hell I would venture to say that they are more versitile then their specialized counterparts. With that being said, a basic suit used as an assault vs assault suit (assuming equal skill and neither has the jump) assault will win. Hands down. One thing you can not do is come in state your opinion say you are right with no proof other than a one or two time thing and assume that everyone will agree with you. So, next time, gather data, compare yourself to others, look at how user friendly it is (teach someone to use it, and see how quick they catch on). Then formulate your argument, and finally subit it for review. That is how these things work. P.S. your corp name sucks fix it. And if you need to know why it sucks you didn't watch the movie close enough, because I caught it the first time I watched it. That was the point, much like Vader (Vader's-Fist) lost his hand. So has Kylo Ren. Did he? Really? Look closer, he still has his hand at the end of the fight. As I said you need to look closer at the scene ;) The jedi just knocks it out of his hand, the jedi does not cut it off. Yeah, I'm an idiot, I'm well aware. My friend corrected me today when I asked him about it.
Fun star wars fact, the reason Darth Vader never used force lightning is because it would literally kill him since his suit was weak to lightning.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2016.01.26 18:10:00 -
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Why does force lightning have to come from finger tips? Surely any number of body parts could do. Nose, knees, ears.
Sounds like Vader wasn't very creative.
Which considering they Dark Side can only ever conceive Death Star variations, may actually make sense.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.26 18:11:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Why does force lightning have to come from finger tips? Surely any number of body parts could do. Nose, knees, ears.
Sounds like Vader wasn't very creative.
Which considering they Dark Side can only ever conceive Death Star variations, may actually make sense. The reason why Vader never used force lightning was because his armor was weak to it. His armor had built in life support and lightning would destroy it and kill him if he ever used it.
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General Vahzz
PIanet Express
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Posted - 2016.01.26 18:23:00 -
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Soto Gallente wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Why does force lightning have to come from finger tips? Surely any number of body parts could do. Nose, knees, ears.
Sounds like Vader wasn't very creative.
Which considering they Dark Side can only ever conceive Death Star variations, may actually make sense. The reason why Vader never used force lightning was because his armor was weak to it. His armor had built in life support and lightning would destroy it and kill him if he ever used it. No, he literally could not do it. He had no real hands. Don't come in here trying to say **** when you don't know ****. Yes, he was weak to lightning. BUT he literally could not produce force lightning, not because he was weak to it.
That is like saying I can't shoot a gun because i am weak to ******* bullets.
You can bite my shiny metal ass.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2016.01.26 18:33:00 -
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Soto Gallente wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Why does force lightning have to come from finger tips? Surely any number of body parts could do. Nose, knees, ears.
Sounds like Vader wasn't very creative.
Which considering they Dark Side can only ever conceive Death Star variations, may actually make sense. The reason why Vader never used force lightning was because his armor was weak to it. His armor had built in life support and lightning would destroy it and kill him if he ever used it. Seems reasonable. Lightning shorts circuitry. Vader's full of circuitry.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2016.01.26 19:04:00 -
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General Vahzz wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Why does force lightning have to come from finger tips? Surely any number of body parts could do. Nose, knees, ears.
Sounds like Vader wasn't very creative.
Which considering they Dark Side can only ever conceive Death Star variations, may actually make sense. The reason why Vader never used force lightning was because his armor was weak to it. His armor had built in life support and lightning would destroy it and kill him if he ever used it. No, he literally could not do it. He had no real hands. Don't come in here trying to say **** when you don't know ****. Yes, he was weak to lightning. BUT he literally could not produce force lightning, not because he was weak to it. That is like saying I can't shoot a gun because i am weak to ******* bullets.
Or like you cant shoot a gun cause your weak to recoil. Your forgetting required secondary powers Blaze. Cole in inFAMOUS can produce & absorb electricity and lightning. But, he doesn't have complete control or resistance to it, why when you jump/get punk slapped into a large body of water he electricutes himself and immediately dies.
Have a theory, When Cole activated the RFI, did he die because his body was drained of electricity? Don't think so, when i run around in parts of the city when the powers out and run out electricity, you don't die. So, if it was true, could he have had a power source used to, you know, NOT die and be replaced by a Delsin? But he would be powerless so...
Bottom line, Vader maybe didn't have the secondary powers needed to use force lightning without killing himself, i think he COULD use it, but not control it long enough to not cause more harm to self then whoever your trying to kill.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2016.01.26 19:11:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Why does force lightning have to come from finger tips? Surely any number of body parts could do. Nose, knees, ears.
Sounds like Vader wasn't very creative.
Which considering they Dark Side can only ever conceive Death Star variations, may actually make sense.
Nose? So if his sneezed people would die.
Knees? Just walking people would die? Or if he had knee pain people would die.
Ears? Think they got burnt off, maybe from his eyes? requiring his eyes had resistance to it.
Mouth? So lightning version of Black Bolt
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2016.01.26 19:20:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Why does force lightning have to come from finger tips? Surely any number of body parts could do. Nose, knees, ears.
Sounds like Vader wasn't very creative.
Which considering they Dark Side can only ever conceive Death Star variations, may actually make sense. We got a kick out of that as well. You'd think Empire's Corp of Engineers would've developed by now a clever alternative to x-wing-sized maintenance tunnels. Fool me once ... lol.
Onto other things that make little sense, what's the little jets on the sides of that bad guy's light saber? Darth Maul's variation I can appreciate, but tiny little side jets?
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.26 20:14:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Why does force lightning have to come from finger tips? Surely any number of body parts could do. Nose, knees, ears.
Sounds like Vader wasn't very creative.
Which considering they Dark Side can only ever conceive Death Star variations, may actually make sense. We got a kick out of that as well. You'd think Empire's Corp of Engineers would've developed by now a clever alternative to x-wing-sized maintenance tunnels. Fool me once ... lol. Onto other things that boggle the mind, what's the thinking behind the little jets on the sides of that bad guy's light saber? Darth Maul's variation I can appreciate, but tiny little side jets? They are so that he can damage his enemy even while they are parried.
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.26 20:16:00 -
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Rekt, all of you
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Can_Darth_Vader_use_force_lightning
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General Vahzz
PIanet Express
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Posted - 2016.01.26 20:39:00 -
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Anyone can edit a wikia, anyone.
Your argument has now been rendered invalid.
You can bite my shiny metal ass.
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.26 20:41:00 -
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General Vahzz wrote:Anyone can edit a wikia, anyone.
Your argument has now been rendered invalid. It's not just a wiki, it's a forum of that wiki.
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General Vahzz
PIanet Express
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Posted - 2016.01.26 20:53:00 -
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Soto Gallente wrote:General Vahzz wrote:Anyone can edit a wikia, anyone.
Your argument has now been rendered invalid. It's not just a wiki, it's a forum of that wiki. Whatever you say bub, your argument still has become invalid
You can bite my shiny metal ass.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2016.01.26 21:37:00 -
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General Vahzz wrote:
Again, I respect you Breakin, but the core level of play does not matter so much.
Core level design dictates the details of play. Unless the suits are distinct at a core, play level, then the ballance of the game is dictated on a slider variation and nothing more.
None of the dropsuits offer any features distinct and unique to that suit, instead relying on a nebulous stat variation that can be OP or UP based solely on slot layout.
So yes, core play absolutely matters.
It affects literally everything you do in the game.
Imagine a gigantic, shiny bug zapper.
Embrace your destiny.
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.26 22:55:00 -
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General Vahzz wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:General Vahzz wrote:Anyone can edit a wikia, anyone.
Your argument has now been rendered invalid. It's not just a wiki, it's a forum of that wiki. Whatever you say bub, your argument still has become invalid How so?
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General Vahzz
PIanet Express
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Posted - 2016.01.26 22:56:00 -
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Soto Gallente wrote:General Vahzz wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:General Vahzz wrote:Anyone can edit a wikia, anyone.
Your argument has now been rendered invalid. It's not just a wiki, it's a forum of that wiki. Whatever you say bub, your argument still has become invalid How so? Because I said it is.
You can bite my shiny metal ass.
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General Vahzz
PIanet Express
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Posted - 2016.01.26 22:56:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:General Vahzz wrote:
Again, I respect you Breakin, but the core level of play does not matter so much.
Core level design dictates the details of play. Unless the suits are distinct at a core, play level, then the ballance of the game is dictated on a slider variation and nothing more. None of the dropsuits offer any features distinct and unique to that suit, instead relying on a nebulous stat variation that can be OP or UP based solely on slot layout. So yes, core play absolutely matters. It affects literally everything you do in the game. Still doesn't make the buggers useful
You can bite my shiny metal ass.
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