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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2016.01.19 19:35:00 -
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That's fair, Joel. The community has always been better than the game. That said, the game and community have both seen better days. Think Chromosome.
I'd contend that the better balanced a game, the more fun its gameplay. Tank 514 wasn't much fun. Scout 514 wasn't much fun. MedFrame 514 might be a forum favorite, but it turns out not to be much fun. That's what comes with imbalance. I can't speak for anyone else, but I love DUST despite its faults and I'd still be playing DUST if not for imbalance.
Don't get me wrong. I'd still find stuff to fuss about, but I'd be alot less bitter about it if Scouts were gettinh a fair shake.
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2Berries
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2016.01.19 19:52:00 -
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Checking in. This brick called dust has pulled me down long enough. Has anyone heard from ratatti since oct/nov? Any notes on if/when there will be a 1.3? Hell, has anyone heard from a CPM member in the last 2 months?
Evening Boys, Hows the water?
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2016.01.19 20:58:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Fristname Family name wrote:
lies, all lies don't listen to him, i can have fun in any fit, scouts are always fun and never wont be :D
That's some quality drugs you're on there.
This game has always been as fun as you make it.
It's not the suit, its the player.
You can fun in any suit if you throw caution to the wind and just enjoy the chaos.
For example, I used to fit BPO Gal Scouts with only Core Locus nades.
I would die 10 times in a match, but would have a literal BLAST doing so.
Re-Re-Re-Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
You never just leave Dust. You story will last forever.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2016.01.19 21:18:00 -
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2Berries wrote:Checking in. This brick called dust has pulled me down long enough. Has anyone heard from ratatti since oct/nov? Any notes on if/when there will be a 1.3? Hell, has anyone heard from a CPM member in the last 2 months?
I haven't heard from Rattati since he started working on Gunjack.
Oops.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.19 22:10:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:So, what do you think about the Amarr Light ak.0? Light frames are absolutely useless. They're the exact same thing as scouts, except they don't have bonuses. I know they're supposed to have more health and be a bit slower, though, to transition from Assault > Medium Frame > Light Frame > Scout, but it hasn't been implemented yet. Also, the Caldari Light Frame still has Gallente Light Frame hands lol @Ares, I think Darth posted something in GD, but it's nothing important.
Actually, the light frames don't have any more health than scouts, it is just distributed differently. For instance, the Amarr Light Frame has more shield than the Amarr Scout, but less armor. Also, Light Frames at proto have 16 bandwidth compared to the Scout's 8, meaning you can drop more uplinks at the beginning of PCs.
Ex-news reporter for The Scope
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Fristname Family name
Opus Arcana
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Posted - 2016.01.20 00:03:00 -
[51486] - Quote
Soto Gallente wrote:Joel II X wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:So, what do you think about the Amarr Light ak.0? Light frames are absolutely useless. They're the exact same thing as scouts, except they don't have bonuses. I know they're supposed to have more health and be a bit slower, though, to transition from Assault > Medium Frame > Light Frame > Scout, but it hasn't been implemented yet. Also, the Caldari Light Frame still has Gallente Light Frame hands lol @Ares, I think Darth posted something in GD, but it's nothing important. Actually, the light frames don't have any more health than scouts, it is just distributed differently. For instance, the Amarr Light Frame has more shield than the Amarr Scout, but less armor. Also, Light Frames at proto have 16 bandwidth compared to the Scout's 8, meaning you can drop more uplinks at the beginning of PCs.
that also means more RE and Proxy spam :D also whats the pg cpu difference?
BAKA! Why would I love you!!
>blushes and looks down as you start to walk away i tug on your shirt and look in your eyes
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.20 00:04:00 -
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Fristname Family name wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:Joel II X wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:So, what do you think about the Amarr Light ak.0? Light frames are absolutely useless. They're the exact same thing as scouts, except they don't have bonuses. I know they're supposed to have more health and be a bit slower, though, to transition from Assault > Medium Frame > Light Frame > Scout, but it hasn't been implemented yet. Also, the Caldari Light Frame still has Gallente Light Frame hands lol @Ares, I think Darth posted something in GD, but it's nothing important. Actually, the light frames don't have any more health than scouts, it is just distributed differently. For instance, the Amarr Light Frame has more shield than the Amarr Scout, but less armor. Also, Light Frames at proto have 16 bandwidth compared to the Scout's 8, meaning you can drop more uplinks at the beginning of PCs. that also means more RE and Proxy spam :D also whats the pg cpu difference?
Don't get me started on PG/CPU, it is horrid. I can not fit even all basic gear on my Standard suit without needing a CPU mod.
Ex-news reporter for The Scope
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Fristname Family name
Opus Arcana
838
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Posted - 2016.01.20 00:57:00 -
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btw guysss remember moody senpai? <3 :c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD5HkPGQb2k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi7b0YpmdEg <-- my fav video of his could link it so much on the forums to make people shut up lol
BAKA! Why would I love you!!
>blushes and looks down as you start to walk away i tug on your shirt and look in your eyes
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2016.01.20 01:14:00 -
[51489] - Quote
Fristname Family name wrote:
Play / Counter Play does not excuse imbalance. Begone troll.
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.20 01:19:00 -
[51490] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Fristname Family name wrote: Play / Counter Play does not excuse imbalance. Begone troll.
I'm okay with imbalance between tiers, but not okay with imbalance between gear of the same tier.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2016.01.20 02:05:00 -
[51491] - Quote
Soto Gallente wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Fristname Family name wrote: Play / Counter Play does not excuse imbalance. Begone troll. I'm okay with imbalance between tiers, but not okay with imbalance between gear of the same tier.
Not sure what you mean.
PRO gear should absolutely be better than STD gear. But "better" isn't binary; there are degrees of better, and some degrees are simply too much. There are valid arguments to the effect that STD gear being 200% worse than PRO gear (as is the case with many modules) makes for too much of a performance gap. That these massive gear gaps should be replaced by gaps more in line with the reasonable progressions observed in Rifles (i.e. PRO rifles are 5% better than ADV which are 5% better than STD). +/- 5% might not be the the magic progression, but the point remains sound. Reasonably measured tier progression would make for better balanced gameplay and, more importantly, it would make for better NPE.
As for imbalance elsewhere in the game, I don't think it appropriate to turn a blind eye to any of it. I think it crucial to not only recognize imbalance for what it is, but to also try to figure out why it is occurring. Otherwise, we'll continue chasing our tails.
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.20 02:18:00 -
[51492] - Quote
Imbalance in an MMO is okay to a certain extent. And remember, this IS a MMO before an fps.
Ex-news reporter for The Scope
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2016.01.20 02:21:00 -
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Soto Gallente wrote: this IS in dying MMO
FTFY. DUST will never reach is fullest potential if CCP doubles down on past mistakes instead of learning from them. This is a product with massive potential. I would not see that potential squandered.
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.20 02:24:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Soto Gallente wrote: this IS in dying MMO FTFY. DUST will never reach is fullest potential if CCP doubles down on past mistakes instead of learning from them.
I don't think the problem of Dust is imbalance, I kill Proto in militia just as easily as in proto. The problem is there is no incentive to win.
Ex-news reporter for The Scope
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2016.01.20 02:29:00 -
[51495] - Quote
Soto Gallente wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Soto Gallente wrote: this IS in dying MMO FTFY. DUST will never reach is fullest potential if CCP doubles down on past mistakes instead of learning from them. I don't think the problem of Dust is imbalance, I kill Proto in militia just as easily as in proto. The problem is there is no incentive to win.
DUST has alot of problems. There's no silver bullet. Everyone has an opinion as to which problems are the worst. If you ask me, imbalance isn't even in the Top 3:
#1 - Lack of stable performance. A competitive shooter must run smoothly.
#2 - Poorly executed new player experience. Can't build headcount if we can't retain newcomers.
#3 - An uncertain future. Why play? Are we all wasting our time and effort?
Not to say that balance isn't important. It is. But it isn't as important as those things which speak directly to DUST's success as a product. Addressing the above items would benefit DUST by greater degree and for longer duration than the periodic balance pass.
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.20 02:32:00 -
[51496] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Soto Gallente wrote: this IS in dying MMO FTFY. DUST will never reach is fullest potential if CCP doubles down on past mistakes instead of learning from them. I don't think the problem of Dust is imbalance, I kill Proto in militia just as easily as in proto. The problem is there is no incentive to win. DUST has alot of problems. There's no silver bullet. Everyone has an opinion as to which problems are the worst. If you ask me, imbalance isn't even in the Top 3: #1 - Lack of stable performance. A competitive shooter must run smoothly #2 - Poorly executed new player experience. We can't build our headcount if we can't retain newcomers #3 - An uncertain future. Why play? Are we all wasting our time and effort? Not to say that balance isn't important. It is. But it isn't as important as those things which speak directly to DUST's success as a product.
I think balance may be a by product of a good NPE.
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First Prophet
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2016.01.20 05:03:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:
This game has always been as fun as you make it.
You could say that about a lot of things. It's still objectively a bad game.
Sanmatar Kelkoons now recruiting
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2016.01.20 05:06:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:
This game has always been as fun as you make it.
You could say that about a lot of things. It's still objectively a bad game.
I won't argue with that part.
I don't even play anymore.
Re-Re-Re-Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
You never just leave Dust. You story will last forever.
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Fristname Family name
Opus Arcana
842
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Posted - 2016.01.20 07:42:00 -
[51499] - Quote
just saying, only somethings still apply these days, and counter play is still required and no one does it ;-;
BAKA! Why would I love you!!
>blushes and looks down as you start to walk away i tug on your shirt and look in your eyes
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
10
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Posted - 2016.01.20 10:34:00 -
[51500] - Quote
Soto Gallente wrote:Joel II X wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:So, what do you think about the Amarr Light ak.0? Light frames are absolutely useless. They're the exact same thing as scouts, except they don't have bonuses. I know they're supposed to have more health and be a bit slower, though, to transition from Assault > Medium Frame > Light Frame > Scout, but it hasn't been implemented yet. Also, the Caldari Light Frame still has Gallente Light Frame hands lol @Ares, I think Darth posted something in GD, but it's nothing important. Actually, the light frames don't have any more health than scouts, it is just distributed differently. For instance, the Amarr Light Frame has more shield than the Amarr Scout, but less armor. Also, Light Frames at proto have 16 bandwidth compared to the Scout's 8, meaning you can drop more uplinks at the beginning of PCs.
I said supposed to, but hasn't been implemented yet.
English Comprehension 101. I didn't know they were distributed differently. Last time I checked, the Gallente Light Frame and Scout (same with Minmatar) were the same.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Radiant Pancake3
Celestial Phoenixes
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Posted - 2016.01.20 12:37:00 -
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Counter play 101: if the redberries are being scrubs be scrubbier than said scrubs.
Or at least that's the only counter i've seen because blues are special most of the time...
SoulPancake
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
5
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Posted - 2016.01.20 13:23:00 -
[51502] - Quote
Hi all, any advice on bloodborne dlc? Is it worth 20Gé¼?
Regressed to blueberry level =ƒÿ»
#PortPatience514
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General Vahzz
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.01.20 14:19:00 -
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So, apparently i have been imposterated by some kid with a loud mouth and a love for star wars. Bastard took my love and stomped it, A GUY CANT GO ON VACATION FOR A MONTH AND HAVE SOME PEACE AND QUIET, NOOOOOO. Why did i have to be so lovabale?
shaman oga wrote:Hi all, any advice on bloodborne dlc? Is it worth 20Gé¼?
**** yes. You're welcome.
I am the real deal, and I am indestructible.
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.20 14:50:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:Joel II X wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:So, what do you think about the Amarr Light ak.0? Light frames are absolutely useless. They're the exact same thing as scouts, except they don't have bonuses. I know they're supposed to have more health and be a bit slower, though, to transition from Assault > Medium Frame > Light Frame > Scout, but it hasn't been implemented yet. Also, the Caldari Light Frame still has Gallente Light Frame hands lol @Ares, I think Darth posted something in GD, but it's nothing important. Actually, the light frames don't have any more health than scouts, it is just distributed differently. For instance, the Amarr Light Frame has more shield than the Amarr Scout, but less armor. Also, Light Frames at proto have 16 bandwidth compared to the Scout's 8, meaning you can drop more uplinks at the beginning of PCs. I said supposed to, but hasn't been implemented yet. English Comprehension 101. I didn't know they were distributed differently. Last time I checked, the Gallente Light Frame and Scout (same with Minmatar) were the same.
Interesting, it might only be the Amarr Light Frame.
Ex-news reporter for The Scope
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xavier zor II
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Posted - 2016.01.20 22:51:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:First Prophet wrote:Fristname Family name wrote:
lies, all lies don't listen to him, i can have fun in any fit, scouts are always fun and never wont be :D
That's some quality drugs you're on there. This game has always been as fun as you make it. It's not the suit, its the player. You can fun in any suit if you throw caution to the wind and just enjoy the chaos. For example, I used to fit BPO Gal Scouts with only Core Locus nades. I would die 10 times in a match, but would have a literal BLAST doing so.
i remember having the most fun by far when me and crazy cat lady met each other in a pub squad one time, decided to do heavy logi combo...stacked kin cats with a PG and shields on my minmitar sentinal + knives. So so fun, cat would be reaping me while i run in and start slicing mercilessly. i can't remember what i had for a primary.
That and watching an asian squad deploy into a redline battle and stomping the sh!t out of the other team when squads were 6 was inspiring to 
xavier zor's alt (biomassed)
YouTube!
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
3
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Posted - 2016.01.21 01:48:00 -
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It's like they are trying to kill this game. Between CCP and Sony PSN crap it's just stupid. Start off with waiting for deployment hanging or just vanishing, then try FW and get in with a horrible team but I'm killing and having fun only to have PSN log me out right near the end....
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Patrick57
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Posted - 2016.01.21 02:16:00 -
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sorry I'm so late to reply to this, but I honestly regret all that. It wasn't worth the effort and just made us both look stupid. But I was like late 13/early 14 at the time so I had to be edgy |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2016.01.21 02:20:00 -
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Patrick! How have you been, sir?
Havent the slightest idea what went down with old KTB. Got a kick out of his videos though. If something regretful happened, I must've missed it.
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Patrick57
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Posted - 2016.01.21 02:24:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Patrick! How have you been, sir?
Havent the slightest idea what went down with old KTB. Got a kick out of his videos though. If something regretful happened, I must've missed it.
Oh well in that case nothing happened  |
One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
13
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Posted - 2016.01.21 02:29:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:sorry I'm so late to reply to this, but I honestly regret all that. It wasn't worth the effort and just made us both look stupid. But I was like late 13/early 14 at the time so I had to be edgy
Are you at the ripe old age of 15 or 16 now?
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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