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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.10.08 20:17:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Positive Note: MN Scout + NK + SMG > CA Scout + Breach SG + SMG
Plan to test GA Scout + Vanilla SG + SMG next. NK + ASMG was still my favorite CQC fit of all dust. Can't wait to try it again. For CA scout, I'd probably actually run RR+MSMG. Take advantage of huge shield delay buff to make him better at long range flanking. Scout around, mow a dude or two down, cloak and run. Shield regen lets you pop in and out of cover at different sides of a flank to engage. Higher speed and stealth lets you dictate range. They start to move up? Cloak, fall back and repeat. Did the CA Scout actually get buffed? It was my understanding that its shield properties were held constant, and the floor was raised around it.
Current MN Scout Loadout HS: Cmp Shield (x2), Cmp Sidearm Damage LS: Cmp Damp (x2), Cmp KinCat PW: Ish Noks SW: M209 ASMG EQ: Cloak, Compact Hive GR: Locus
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chill penguin
Red and Silver Hand
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Posted - 2015.10.08 20:18:00 -
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Can someone show me the new RR specs pwease? too lazy to go and look, the regular ol State RR is what i use.
VAHZZ.'s alt, because like Badger, i ain't scuuurred.
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.08 20:18:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Positive Note: MN Scout + NK + SMG > CA Scout + Breach SG + SMG
Plan to test GA Scout + Vanilla SG + SMG next. NK + ASMG was still my favorite CQC fit of all dust. Can't wait to try it again. For CA scout, I'd probably actually run RR+MSMG. Take advantage of huge shield delay buff to make him better at long range flanking. Scout around, mow a dude or two down, cloak and run. Shield regen lets you pop in and out of cover at different sides of a flank to engage. Higher speed and stealth lets you dictate range. They start to move up? Cloak, fall back and repeat. After I get all min scout related skills to 5 I'm thinking of going Cal Scout.
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.08 20:19:00 -
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chill penguin wrote:Can someone show me the new RR specs pwease? too lazy to go and look, the regular ol State RR is what i use. They are the same except the ARR lost some range.
The Caldari Assault gets a new bonus to RR kick though.
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chill penguin
Red and Silver Hand
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Posted - 2015.10.08 20:20:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:chill penguin wrote:Can someone show me the new RR specs pwease? too lazy to go and look, the regular ol State RR is what i use. They are the same except the ARR lost some range. The Caldari Assault gets a new bonus to RR kick though. Ok, that is all i needed to know, no range buff. My poor sniper
I will stick to #TeamFreedom
VAHZZ.'s alt, because like Badger, i ain't scuuurred.
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chill penguin
Red and Silver Hand
600
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Posted - 2015.10.08 20:29:00 -
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Post Reserved for when i get home. I shall boot up DUST, and test out the new Hotfix Freedom, and readjust my Assault.
VAHZZ.'s alt, because like Badger, i ain't scuuurred.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.10.08 20:34:00 -
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Pseudogenesis wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:The Minmatar Scout is unequivocally the best Scout.
Fite me aboot it. It's SO INSANELY GOOD that playing it for a month straight makes you want to biomass your merc. Its power transcends the gameplay itself. No mortal is capable of containing it. How did I never see this???
Thanks to Monk o7
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.10.08 20:51:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Positive Note: MN Scout + NK + SMG > CA Scout + Breach SG + SMG
Plan to test GA Scout + Vanilla SG + SMG next. Do you have any skill in Magsec?
Always liked the description of the weapon, but now that it has been buffed it sounds more plausible again.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.10.08 21:10:00 -
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Still not a fan of the breach shotgun, tbh.
That reload is so slow.
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.10.08 21:13:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Still not a fan of the breach shotgun, tbh.
That reload is so slow. You haven't signed into PSN in 48 days though, so...
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.10.08 21:23:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Still not a fan of the breach shotgun, tbh.
That reload is so slow. I don't care much for the reload, but the RoF is what kills it, in my opinion.
A vanilla shotgun could get two shots in before the Breach does.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.10.08 21:24:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Still not a fan of the breach shotgun, tbh.
That reload is so slow. You haven't signed into PSN in 48 days though, so... Like I said, decoration.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.10.08 21:25:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Positive Note: MN Scout + NK + SMG > CA Scout + Breach SG + SMG
Plan to test GA Scout + Vanilla SG + SMG next. Do you have any skill in Magsec? Always liked the description of the weapon, but now that it has been buffed it sounds more plausible again. Yep. Dumped a million or so SP into it this morning (Pro3). It isn't bad, but the ASMG feels better. At first glance. Will revisit.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.10.08 21:34:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Positive Note: MN Scout + NK + SMG > CA Scout + Breach SG + SMG
Plan to test GA Scout + Vanilla SG + SMG next. NK + ASMG was still my favorite CQC fit of all dust. Can't wait to try it again. I don't think you'll be disappointed. Here's my current loadout: HS: Cmp Shield (x2), Cmp Sidearm Damage LS: Cmp Damp (x2), Cmp KinCat PW: Ish Noks SW: M209 ASMG EQ: Adv Cloak, Compact Hive GR: Adv Locus Ghost Kaisar wrote: For CA scout, I'd probably actually run RR+MSMG. Take advantage of huge shield delay buff to make him better at long range flanking. Scout around, mow a dude or two down, cloak and run. Shield regen lets you pop in and out of cover at different sides of a flank to engage.
Higher speed and stealth lets you dictate range. They start to move up? Cloak, fall back and repeat.
Did the CA Scout actually get buffed? It was my understanding that its shield properties (excluding dmg threshold) were held constant; I'm pretty sure the floor was raised around it.
It gained from the changes.
All caldari suits got buffed in terms of delay and depleted. Cal scout's regen amount didn't change, but the downtime is decreased significantly.
Damp+Kincat is still the way to run it though. On a flank fit, I'd probably run 3x shield, recharger, damp, kincat.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.10.08 21:37:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote: Did the CA Scout actually get buffed? It was my understanding that its shield properties (excluding dmg threshold) were held constant; I'm pretty sure the floor was raised around it.
It gained from the changes. All caldari suits got buffed in terms of delay and depleted. Cal scout's regen amount didn't change, but the downtime is decreased significantly. Damp+Kincat is still the way to run it though. On a flank fit, I'd probably run 3x shield, recharger, damp, kincat. Hotfix Foxfour
I'm not seeing it. Old Delay looks exactly like New Delay. What am I missing, Ghost?
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.10.08 22:21:00 -
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chill penguin wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:chill penguin wrote:Can someone show me the new RR specs pwease? too lazy to go and look, the regular ol State RR is what i use. They are the same except the ARR lost some range. The Caldari Assault gets a new bonus to RR kick though. Ok, that is all i needed to know, no range buff. My poor sniper I will stick to #TeamFreedom FREEDOOOOOOM
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.10.08 22:39:00 -
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@ Goose - Big buff to Burst ScP's kick.
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.10.08 22:55:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Positive Note: MN Scout + NK + SMG > CA Scout + Breach SG + SMG
Plan to test GA Scout + Vanilla SG + SMG next.
So is the assault SMG back? Is it better than the BP now? |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.10.08 22:59:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Positive Note: MN Scout + NK + SMG > CA Scout + Breach SG + SMG
Plan to test GA Scout + Vanilla SG + SMG next. So is the assault SMG back? Is it better than the BP now? M209 feels pretty solid. Better than the current BP? Possibly.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.10.08 23:01:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Positive Note: MN Scout + NK + SMG > CA Scout + Breach SG + SMG
Plan to test GA Scout + Vanilla SG + SMG next. NK + ASMG was still my favorite CQC fit of all dust. Can't wait to try it again. I don't think you'll be disappointed. Here's my current loadout: HS: Cmp Shield (x2), Cmp Sidearm Damage LS: Cmp Damp (x2), Cmp KinCat PW: Ish Noks SW: M209 ASMG EQ: Adv Cloak, Compact Hive GR: Adv Locus Ghost Kaisar wrote: For CA scout, I'd probably actually run RR+MSMG. Take advantage of huge shield delay buff to make him better at long range flanking. Scout around, mow a dude or two down, cloak and run. Shield regen lets you pop in and out of cover at different sides of a flank to engage.
Higher speed and stealth lets you dictate range. They start to move up? Cloak, fall back and repeat.
Did the CA Scout actually get buffed? It was my understanding that its shield properties (excluding dmg threshold) were held constant; I'm pretty sure the floor was raised around it. It gained from the changes. All caldari suits got buffed in terms of delay and depleted. Cal scout's regen amount didn't change, but the downtime is decreased significantly. Damp+Kincat is still the way to run it though. On a flank fit, I'd probably run 3x shield, recharger, damp, kincat.
This is mostly incorrect, unfortunately. The Caldari Scout was used as a margin; an extreme. It has the highest base regen stats available to retain it's prior capability, which was requested in the first Shield Stats thread (it was previously going to be nerfed to coincide with racial shield stats). It did receive a minor buff to shield threshold, however, which allows it to continue recharging shields when being fired at by projectile weapons outside their optimal range.
This may change in the future, however, in Shields Step Two. We need to see the data on how the meta changes go down, how fittings have changed, etc. That should take a little while so have patience :) Just know that we are keeping a close eye on things.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.10.08 23:01:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Yep. Dumped a million or so SP into it this morning (Pro3). It isn't bad, but the ASMG feels better. At first glance, at least. Will revisit ... I really want it to be my favorite sidearm.
Adipem Nothi wrote:I really want it to be my favorite sidearm. Whoa...
Let's not get hastey.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.10.08 23:03:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Ares 514 wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Positive Note: MN Scout + NK + SMG > CA Scout + Breach SG + SMG
Plan to test GA Scout + Vanilla SG + SMG next. So is the assault SMG back? Is it better than the BP now? M209 feels pretty solid. Better than the current BP? Possibly.
The last sidearm rebalance just broke the assault SMG. Besides from the ammo reduction the hit detection on it seemed really weird compared to the prior version. I'll have to give it a try again as it used to be my favorite sidearm.
Also will need to test the ScP changes. |
Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.10.08 23:07:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:chill penguin wrote:Can someone show me the new RR specs pwease? too lazy to go and look, the regular ol State RR is what i use. They are the same except the ARR lost some range. The Caldari Assault gets a new bonus to RR kick though.
Based on the comparison videos I posted here I'm starting to think the reduction to kick wasn't as substantial as we would have liked. Just my personal opinion though, the other CPM and CCP may disagree. I think it could go down further.
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Still not a fan of the breach shotgun, tbh.
That reload is so slow.
Noted. Might take a look at the reload speed soon. Let's see how the data works out and if it is necessary.
chill penguin wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote: 0 SECOND DELAY ARE YOU ******* KIDDING ME HERE!? Good lord....*takes off sunglasses*...challenge accepted....
Bear in mind that it is an officer suit and officer suits are, by design, meant to be powerful. You can also only get them through salvage boxes, so they are extremely rare.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.10.08 23:08:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote: The last sidearm rebalance just broke the assault SMG. Besides from the ammo reduction the hit detection on it seemed really weird compared to the prior version. I'll have to give it a try again as it used to be my favorite sidearm.
Also will need to test the ScP changes.
Agreed. It feels alot better. TT3 feels pretty good as well.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.10.08 23:28:00 -
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Anyone try out the M8 Packed Locus? Are they registering damage more reliably than before?
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
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Posted - 2015.10.08 23:40:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Still not a fan of the breach shotgun, tbh.
That reload is so slow. You haven't signed into PSN in 48 days though, so... Like I said, decoration.
Sigh, so the shop is the kinda place that leaves Christmas lights up year round. Yep, sounds about right.
Last Montage : Death of a Scout
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.10.08 23:44:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:I like it, Bing.
And don't mind Ark. He's only here for decoration.
^ Context
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
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Posted - 2015.10.08 23:53:00 -
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Yeah, I figured the gal assault/ar threads would be the best to read. Followed by a high sp player complaining about lower skill players with some mid tier grenade killing him. Ending with scrambler rifle users.
Not saying the forums will be flooded with threads on the grenades/scrambler posts. It will brake up the gal assault threads nicely though.
Jumpy jumpy still seen a good bit?
On the sg, I was seeing/hearing a few people here and there wanting people to have a reason to use higher tier sgs. Would a increase in fire rate do that? To the extent the proto = firing fast as prof 5 used to fire when that was the prof bonus. (No, I won't give up on getting the sg to fire faster lol) Or are people stigmatized by the bons sg now, that when they hear anything about the others firing faster they freak?
Edit: hell even the proto firing fast as prof 3 used to, it would be nice. std prof 1 firerate adv prof 2 proto prof 3
Last Montage : Death of a Scout
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
L0RDS 0F LEGI0N
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Posted - 2015.10.08 23:58:00 -
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Hey Ghost, ive been using the RR/SMG on my gallente scout for a while now, are you using ARR or regular? I don't really try hard when using it, but on some maps i find ARR is better. The gallente scout is so flexible with the four lows i could shield & armor tank it, but i personally like my highs with PEs or damage mods.
But do i really need PE at the range i could engage? Also, ran the RR & ARR on matari, its an entirely different animal. The best primary for NKs besides vanilla CR & SMG. IMHO, the regular RR is better for gallente scout, but ARR is best on matari & caldari according to you.
How would you fit you're matari/caldari fits? Do i need PEs with RR? If i tried a little bit more can RR on gallente scout work?
Looks like changes need to be made.
CQC gun in CQC= OMFG I WAS KILLED IN CQC!
Skill of a newberry ATM, but don't worry ill get better (i think)
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.10.09 00:00:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Jumpy jumpy still seen a good bit?
Not seeing any jumpy Scouts. Seeing some mariobro Assaults and the occasional Commando.
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