I just looked past the awesome color and saw the suit, it's bad and should feel bad.
I'll be grabbin the assault.

Also think I'll be switching from gal assault to cal assault for awhile when I do jump back on.

What about me?

NO! IT IS VAHZZLED! IT HAS ALREADY BEEN CONFIRMED! VAHZZLED!

Actually, i haven't gone negative in weeks, i have been going positive. You know, Raven told me to stop ******* around and actually try. Been using a CalLogi, with RR and Core Locus. It's fun. Gonna respec into it. Would be cool when hotfix drops. Don't drop hits in here because you are too afraid to go to the war room.

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What I'm a bit upset about are the depleted delay stats. I provided lots of ideas and very in depth feedback regarding the CPM shield proposal, which left out consideration of depleted delays. In that thread Breakin' Stuff was very dismissive of me and quite rude. Considering the effort I'd put into my feedback I felt kind of pissed off about it.
Apparently he'd been given the task of working on depleted delays, though I'm sure other CPM members worked on it too. But we never got a chance to give feedback on their proposal. I kind of pre-empted this a bit by explaining how I felt about it when the ideas were hinted at, but there was never a proper feedback thread about it.
Now we've got a strange situation where depleted delays are, counter-intuitively, shorter than non-depleted, and shorter the heavier the suit. I've been talking to some guys in game today, and nobody seems to get why. It's nice for sentinels, who lost out on their comparatively good rege stats compared to mediums, but why do scouts now have the worst depleted delays?
OK, it's nice to have a neat pattern, and I guess scouts can be brought back to balance with other changes, like cloaks, but how is massively buffing medium suit depleted delays a good thing?/quote]

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Fair compensation is always subjective but the attempt was made with the Breach Mass Driver doing full damage against vehicles. To put into perspective what kind of damage you're looking at, a Minmatar Commando with maxxed skills does about 701.32 armor damage per round. If you hit the HAV's weak point, you're doing 1051.98 damage per round. Given that you actually -can- aim at weak points instead of having to fiddle with lock times, flight times, terrain, etc... landing all six rounds will come out to a total of 4207.92 to 6,311.88 damage.

Versus all volleys from a Wiyrkomi Swarm which would be 5,683.44.

This also includes the fact that you can use a Breach MD against infantry as well, which is a sizable benefit over the Swarm Launcher which does not have that capability.

Oh please, a no name scrub that no one gives a fu*k about isn't worthy of a WR post

You do suck, you go negative in a heavy. Next time I see you, squad, mic the fu*k up, go negative and then shut the fu*k up. Its forum scrubs like you that think they are good, but get punked in-game even when they have a squad!

Edit: I did the exact same with park. Squadded and dropped 30 kill games so he would stfu

Finally sat down and decided to jump in cal fw to grab up an apex suit from em.
I want that cal assault...but that cal logi is all kinda yellow.
Gonna be tough to decide once I get 10k more lp.
Should have it later today, unless Rainbow gets off their bums and give me a beta code.

Edit: who am I kidding, that logi is crap. Assault all the way.

unlike you who gets so angry over a video game that he tries to insult people's lives, mine is a lot better than yours judging from recent posts....one of which I can relate too.

today I just got my PWC license and can now use a jet-ski legally. I also bought a Bishon Frise with a quarter King Charles Cavalier inbred, she is adorable...11 months old, 'Yuki' (happy in Japanese). Yesterday I sat through half an hour of fireworks at Brisbane after driving to the airport to see my Father who flew from Townsville (north queensland AUS).

So park, shut up.

I could just be taking everything personally, i do that. But i will not tolerate being lied on & having words in my mouth that i never said, or you won't even show proof if i did.

Zor, I really wish you'd stop going on about how much better you are than everyone.

It's getting kind of tiresome.

Don't get me wrong I'm appreciative that the Minmando will still have an AV role - that's fine. I'm really looking forward to seeing how that plays out, and it's actually made my Minmando more versatile because I am more effective against infantry now due to not carrying a weapon that can't hurt infantry.

However, I now have SP in a tree I will no longer use. It's worse for others who have SP in a tree they will no longer use, but also no SP in its replacement. It's happened plenty times before and I'm not trying to moan about it - I was really just calling Blaze out over his glossing over of something that is a problem.

I don't like to see things that are wrong but always happen become accepted as the norm. I don't care how many times it's happened in the past; it still shouldn't happen.

Like fair compensation, wrong is also subjective. If I go over to one player and say, "Swarms or MD?" in this context, the answer will change depending on the person and that's a paraphrased example. Dust 514 and Eve Online have always been less about SP investment and more about SP diversification. You're losing the ability to be both stellar at anti-infantry play (projectile/explosive bonus) as well as anti-vehicle player (swarms) in favor of a bit more focus on the former. While I understand the concern for loss of investment, I don't understand "now have SP in a tree I will no longer use" because if you're insinuating that you were using the Minmando solely for AV purposes then that just adds weight to what was needing fixed

Don't get me wrong I'm appreciative that the Minmando will still have an AV role - that's fine. I'm really looking forward to seeing how that plays out, and it's actually made my Minmando more versatile because I am more effective against infantry now due to not carrying a weapon that can't hurt infantry.

However, I now have SP in a tree I will no longer use. It's worse for others who have SP in a tree they will no longer use, but also no SP in its replacement. It's happened plenty times before and I'm not trying to moan about it - I was really just calling Blaze out over his glossing over of something that is a problem.

I don't like to see things that are wrong but always happen become accepted as the norm. I don't care how many times it's happened in the past; it still shouldn't happen.

Aeon, you saw me drop 44 kills in a shield suit??

I am not a bad player

Zor, I really wish you'd stop going on about how much better you are than everyone.

It's getting kind of tiresome.

Re: SP investments
*Good points*

Zor may be a slayer, but he has the insults of a rock.

When i was finished with your mother that's what she said when I told her she climaxes like an 80's soap opera

Re: SP investments

Gents - I would never advocate not changing the game coz it will miff some people. Progress is progress. I'm just saying that my choices should matter, and when fundamental changes are made that mean my choices are no longer giving me what I chose them for, then that makes no sense without the chance to rectify the issue.

Let me repeat, I'm not banging on about "omg I want my SP back" - my comments were only made in response to someone who was suggesting this should be accepted as the norm. I've many times found a skill tree or two to be rendered useless (read: I ain't gonna use it no more) but sucked it up.

I'm really quite surprised anyone thinks not getting that SP back is ok. I'm happy for you to not care, but to suggest it's ok makes me think I've not explained it well enough.

If you gave me a blank slate with the new hotfix changes active, then if I still wanted to use swarms, I'd spec calmando not minmando. It's as simple as that. If I wanted to be more flexible and use MD as AV, as MD works on infantry too, then I'd spec that.

What if I was a newbro and all I had was swarms and say, combat rifle, on a minmando? What if I'd made good decisions on what I wanted to be in games, and carefully skilled up in a way that maximised my SP accrual? Then CCP come along and say that weapon doesn't go with that suit any more? Shouldn't I get the SP back to allow me to make new decisions? Isn't that just gonna have newbros saying, meh that's a bit rubbish, y u do that to me CCP?

I dunno - it's no biggie for me, I've got 55m SP on my main and funtimes on some alts. But I feel for others that are hit harder.