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Llast 326 wrote:

One Eyed King wrote:

Adipem Nothi wrote:

Alrighty, gents. Have some numbers for you to shoot holes in:

Google Doc

Addressing Passive Scans only for now; will focus on Active Scans later. As a point-of-reference, a single damp'd MN Scout's has a 24dB profile, and a double damp'd MN Scout has an 18dB profile. Looking forward to your thoughts and feedback.

Design Goals
* Restore Range Amps to functional state without going overboard
* Return AM Scout's role as "Scout Hunter" at short-to-mid range without throwing the MN Scout under the bus
* Require greater investment to scan dampened units at close range

@ OEK - I like the idea of fixed inner rings, but I don't think it is an absolutely necessity. Check out the values and tell me what you think.

I think it is better, but I don't know how the community as a whole will like it. Sentinels might like the range increase, and Commandos the Precision decrease, but I don't know the Logis will like the range decrease.

I know be getting a buff at 4 and 5 Range Extenders, but with the reduced Precision, I don't know they will buy it.

Personally I am ok with it, but perhaps run it by Cross to get an alternative perspective.

Double downGÇª Cross and Pokey. Both will give good feedback and likely have different feedback to share.

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Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2015.08.23 22:15:00 - [44371] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: I would suggest that instead of two rings, we keep the three rings, but push them out and move the increments closer together. Today's medium should act as the new short, today's long should remain the same, and the new medium should be a ring in between those two. On 3-Ring to 2-Ring system. You're probably right and I'll put together number sets for each. But if there's any chance that a 2-Ring system might free up memory or system resources, I'd back the 2-Ring system in a heartbeat. To me, performance matters most and we should be on the lookout for opportunities to improve it. Reserving the right to change my mind on the above point :-) Tinkering with the numbers. I do intend to try, but if I can't come up with a decent 2-Ring system, I'll rework the 3-Ring system. Performance improvements be damned! Changing my mind on this point. Will stick with the 3-ring system. Performance improvements be damned. Firstly, the progressions make more sense with 3 rings than 2. Secondly, the Devs have already updated the in-game fitting Ui with Short, Medium, Long and I seriously doubt they'll get behind undoing work they've already done. CPM Sgt Kirk - On Community
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 26	Posted - 2015.08.23 22:58:00 - [44372] - Quote Apparently having a window in my university room costs -ú10.44 a week. Hm. Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 26	Posted - 2015.08.23 22:59:00 - [44373] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: I seriously doubt they'll get behind undoing work they've already done. I'm sure there's a negative comment to be made here somewhere... Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2015.08.23 23:03:00 - [44374] - Quote Alrighty, gents. Have some numbers for you to shoot holes in: Google Doc Addressing Passive Scans only for now; will focus on Active Scans later. Looking forward to your thoughts and feedback. @ OEK - I like the idea of fixed inner rings, but I don't think it is absolutely necessary. Check out the values and tell me what you think. CPM Sgt Kirk - On Community
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2	Posted - 2015.08.23 23:50:00 - [44375] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: One Eyed King wrote: A fixed inner ring to 5 or 6 meters would be great. Then at least Range Amps could go back to old numbers. That's a good idea. I suspect they'd have to tweak the coding from a derived value to a fixed value, but I don't think that'd be unreasonably difficult to do. I've always been a fan of a fixed 5m inner scan ring. No idea why try didn't do it this way in the first place.
Dreis ShadowWeaver Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 6	Posted - 2015.08.24 00:03:00 - [44376] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Hey Ark... The mic's out of it's packaging. So? That doesn't mean you're going to use it. Also, I'm not sure if I believe you. I learnt how to use it and everything. If you had been online around about just after downtime, I genuinely would have used it. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2015.08.24 00:04:00 - [44377] - Quote Ares 514 wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: One Eyed King wrote: A fixed inner ring to 5 or 6 meters would be great. Then at least Range Amps could go back to old numbers. That's a good idea. I suspect they'd have to tweak the coding from a derived value to a fixed value, but I don't think that'd be unreasonably difficult to do. I've always been a fan of a fixed 5m inner scan ring. No idea why try didn't do it this way in the first place. Could theoretically give all units a fixed 5m, 0dB scan ring. It would make perfect sense in a 1v1 setting, but that "backstab warning" being shared 16x is too substantial a risk factor. With shared squad sight as it is, I think it'd be better balanced to require mercs to invest in 2-3 precision enhancers to get the "backstab warning" rather than giving to them for free. CPM Sgt Kirk - On Community
XxBlazikenxX Vader's-Fist 1	Posted - 2015.08.24 00:17:00 - [44378] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Ares 514 wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: One Eyed King wrote: A fixed inner ring to 5 or 6 meters would be great. Then at least Range Amps could go back to old numbers. That's a good idea. I suspect they'd have to tweak the coding from a derived value to a fixed value, but I don't think that'd be unreasonably difficult to do. I've always been a fan of a fixed 5m inner scan ring. No idea why try didn't do it this way in the first place. Could theoretically give all units a fixed 5m, 0dB scan ring. It would make perfect sense in a 1v1 setting, but that "backstab warning" being shared 16x is too substantial a risk factor. With shared squad sight as it is, I think it'd be better balanced to require a meaningful investment to get a "backstab warning" rather than giving it away for free (or near free). It would basically be a indirect nova knife nerf. Vader's-Fist is still alive and recruiting! Director of Vader's-Fist Amarr Victor
VAHZZ Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2015.08.24 00:19:00 - [44379] - Quote Dreis, get your ass online and respond to my mail. I am no longer holding back. Taking my throne
Llast 326 An Arkhos 8	Posted - 2015.08.24 00:43:00 - [44380] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Apparently having a window in my university room costs -ú10.44 a week. Hm. And on this day Ark learned that grades are second to cash at university MOAR Ladders SpadeGÇª Remember your Warbarge

Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2	Posted - 2015.08.24 00:44:00 - [44381] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Alrighty, gents. Have some numbers for you to shoot holes in: Google Doc Addressing Passive Scans only for now; will focus on Active Scans later. As a point-of-reference, a single damp'd MN Scout's has a 24dB profile, and a double damp'd MN Scout has an 18dB profile. Looking forward to your thoughts and feedback. Design Goals * Restore Range Amps to functional state without going overboard * Return AM Scout's role as "Scout Hunter" at short-to-mid range without throwing the MN Scout under the bus * Require greater investment to scan dampened units at close range @ OEK - I like the idea of fixed inner rings, but I don't think it is an absolutely necessity. Check out the values and tell me what you think. I like the standardized base scan range between frames. I think the cal scout has too strong passive a. I've never agreed with that bonus when Ewar is actually good since it applies to the entire squad (which is now even bigger) and aids suits with crappy passives / range. As long as shared scans exist ( which they shouldn't but we are stuck with them) you can not have something like e cal scout you propose. Edit: similar issue with Amarr scout.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 11	Posted - 2015.08.24 00:48:00 - [44382] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Alrighty, gents. Have some numbers for you to shoot holes in: Google Doc Addressing Passive Scans only for now; will focus on Active Scans later. As a point-of-reference, a single damp'd MN Scout's has a 24dB profile, and a double damp'd MN Scout has an 18dB profile. Looking forward to your thoughts and feedback. Design Goals * Restore Range Amps to functional state without going overboard * Return AM Scout's role as "Scout Hunter" at short-to-mid range without throwing the MN Scout under the bus * Require greater investment to scan dampened units at close range @ OEK - I like the idea of fixed inner rings, but I don't think it is an absolutely necessity. Check out the values and tell me what you think. I think it is better, but I don't know how the community as a whole will like it. Sentinels might like the range increase, and Commandos the Precision decrease, but I don't know the Logis will like the range decrease. I know be getting a buff at 4 and 5 Range Extenders, but with the reduced Precision, I don't know they will buy it. Personally I am ok with it, but perhaps run it by Cross to get an alternative perspective. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
XxBlazikenxX Vader's-Fist 1	Posted - 2015.08.24 01:05:00 - [44383] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Alrighty, gents. Have some numbers for you to shoot holes in: Google Doc Addressing Passive Scans only for now; will focus on Active Scans later. As a point-of-reference, a single damp'd MN Scout's has a 24dB profile, and a double damp'd MN Scout has an 18dB profile. Looking forward to your thoughts and feedback. Design Goals * Restore Range Amps to functional state without going overboard * Return AM Scout's role as "Scout Hunter" at short-to-mid range without throwing the MN Scout under the bus * Require greater investment to scan dampened units at close range @ OEK - I like the idea of fixed inner rings, but I don't think it is an absolutely necessity. Check out the values and tell me what you think. I think it is better, but I don't know how the community as a whole will like it. Sentinels might like the range increase, and Commandos the Precision decrease, but I don't know the Logis will like the range decrease. I know be getting a buff at 4 and 5 Range Extenders, but with the reduced Precision, I don't know they will buy it. Personally I am ok with it, but perhaps run it by Cross to get an alternative perspective. I second this. Vader's-Fist is still alive and recruiting! Director of Vader's-Fist Amarr Victor
mollerz 6	Posted - 2015.08.24 01:08:00 - [44384] - Quote ah! Monk stopped in to drop off some 2015 red jar
Dreis ShadowWeaver Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 6	Posted - 2015.08.24 01:10:00 - [44385] - Quote WHO IS MONK?!?! Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
XxBlazikenxX Vader's-Fist 1	Posted - 2015.08.24 01:14:00 - [44386] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: WHO IS MONK?!?! Only one of the most famous scouts who ever existed. Vader's-Fist is still alive and recruiting! Director of Vader's-Fist Amarr Victor
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 11	Posted - 2015.08.24 01:14:00 - [44387] - Quote One thing I think would be interesting with Active Scanners would be if the initial scan starts out at the lowest dB of the scanner, than gradually increases over the course of the scan. This would be in addition to a tacnet mechanic that displays any scanned red in terms of brightness in relation to the scanner's profile. So if say they was a 10 dB active scan, and a 12 dB scout, that scout would show up as a faint blip for a small fraction of the scan's duration, while a 60 dB heavy may show up for the entire duration of the active scan, or close to it. Not only would it allow for some variability, but it would also give the ability to know what is what, or at least think they know. Perhaps you could max dampen an Assault, and make someone think you are a scout, and find a surprise, or a Sentinel dampening to Assault levels. Lastly, I think it should work like a cloak, in that it doesn't matter what the scan duration is, if you unequip it, it is no longer active. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 11	Posted - 2015.08.24 01:18:00 - [44388] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: WHO IS MONK?!?! Have you not seen Monk's prayer on the first post? Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 8	Posted - 2015.08.24 01:20:00 - [44389] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: WHO IS MONK?!?! Monk is legendGÇª myth. You will not know him when you see him because you will not see himGÇª you will just see the respawn screen. MOAR Ladders SpadeGÇª Remember your Warbarge
XxBlazikenxX Vader's-Fist 1	Posted - 2015.08.24 01:21:00 - [44390] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: One thing I think would be interesting with Active Scanners would be if the initial scan starts out at the lowest dB of the scanner, than gradually increases over the course of the scan. This would be in addition to a tacnet mechanic that displays any scanned red in terms of brightness in relation to the scanner's profile. So if say they was a 10 dB active scan, and a 12 dB scout, that scout would show up as a faint blip for a small fraction of the scan's duration, while a 60 dB heavy may show up for the entire duration of the active scan, or close to it. Not only would it allow for some variability, but it would also give the ability to know what is what, or at least think they know. Perhaps you could max dampen an Assault, and make someone think you are a scout, and find a surprise, or a Sentinel dampening to Assault levels. Lastly, I think it should work like a cloak, in that it doesn't matter what the scan duration is, if you unequip it, it is no longer active. Brilliant. Vader's-Fist is still alive and recruiting! Director of Vader's-Fist Amarr Victor

Llast 326 An Arkhos 8	Posted - 2015.08.24 01:22:00 - [44391] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Alrighty, gents. Have some numbers for you to shoot holes in: Google Doc Addressing Passive Scans only for now; will focus on Active Scans later. As a point-of-reference, a single damp'd MN Scout's has a 24dB profile, and a double damp'd MN Scout has an 18dB profile. Looking forward to your thoughts and feedback. Design Goals * Restore Range Amps to functional state without going overboard * Return AM Scout's role as "Scout Hunter" at short-to-mid range without throwing the MN Scout under the bus * Require greater investment to scan dampened units at close range @ OEK - I like the idea of fixed inner rings, but I don't think it is an absolutely necessity. Check out the values and tell me what you think. I think it is better, but I don't know how the community as a whole will like it. Sentinels might like the range increase, and Commandos the Precision decrease, but I don't know the Logis will like the range decrease. I know be getting a buff at 4 and 5 Range Extenders, but with the reduced Precision, I don't know they will buy it. Personally I am ok with it, but perhaps run it by Cross to get an alternative perspective. Double downGÇª Cross and Pokey. Both will give good feedback and likely have different feedback to share. MOAR Ladders SpadeGÇª Remember your Warbarge
XxBlazikenxX Vader's-Fist 1	Posted - 2015.08.24 01:28:00 - [44392] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Alrighty, gents. Have some numbers for you to shoot holes in: Google Doc Addressing Passive Scans only for now; will focus on Active Scans later. As a point-of-reference, a single damp'd MN Scout's has a 24dB profile, and a double damp'd MN Scout has an 18dB profile. Looking forward to your thoughts and feedback. Design Goals * Restore Range Amps to functional state without going overboard * Return AM Scout's role as "Scout Hunter" at short-to-mid range without throwing the MN Scout under the bus * Require greater investment to scan dampened units at close range @ OEK - I like the idea of fixed inner rings, but I don't think it is an absolutely necessity. Check out the values and tell me what you think. I think it is better, but I don't know how the community as a whole will like it. Sentinels might like the range increase, and Commandos the Precision decrease, but I don't know the Logis will like the range decrease. I know be getting a buff at 4 and 5 Range Extenders, but with the reduced Precision, I don't know they will buy it. Personally I am ok with it, but perhaps run it by Cross to get an alternative perspective. Double downGÇª Cross and Pokey. Both will give good feedback and likely have different feedback to share. Always Pokey. Vader's-Fist is still alive and recruiting! Director of Vader's-Fist Amarr Victor
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2015.08.24 01:42:00 - [44393] - Quote Ares 514 wrote: I like the standardized base scan range between frames. I think the cal scout has too strong passive a. I've never agreed with that bonus when Ewar is actually good since it applies to the entire squad (which is now even bigger) and aids suits with crappy passives / range. As long as shared scans exist ( which they shouldn't but we are stuck with them) you can not have something like e cal scout you propose. Edit: similar issue with Amarr scout. Excellent points. Will reevaluate. One Eyed King wrote: Personally I am ok with it, but perhaps run it by Cross to get an alternative perspective. That's the plan, but I'd prefer to first hammer out specific EWAR figures here before presenting anything to Cross, the Triage Ward or elsewhere. CPM Sgt Kirk - On Community
mollerz 6	Posted - 2015.08.24 02:00:00 - [44394] - Quote I don't have a hat to toss in on this debate about 3 ring vs 2 ring circuses and whatnot- but when people say the b shop is just garbage and no one here is coherent and willing to discuss dust mechanics they just need to read the last 3 pages or so. I suspect you are damned if you do or damned if you don't, though. busts open the first case of 2015 monk brew and the deep red delicious color sparkles in the light of the ishNok I used to open the crate yup! Monk outdid himself this year boys! [RED JAR]} {[RED JAR] CHEERS!
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2015.08.24 02:12:00 - [44395] - Quote New Numbers! Google Doc: Falloff 2.0.2 Design Goals * Restore Range Amps to functional state without going overboard * Return AM Scout's role as "Scout Hunter" without throwing the MN Scout under the bus * Require greater investment to scan dampened units at close range * Reign in potentially too potent passives of AM and CA Scouts proposed in 1.0.1 Looking forward to your thoughts, gents. Most of you, at least :-) CPM Sgt Kirk - On Community
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2015.08.24 02:14:00 - [44396] - Quote mollerz wrote: I suspect you are damned if you do or damned if you don't, though. You're damn right. And we're better off for it. CPM Sgt Kirk - On Community
Dreis ShadowWeaver Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 6	Posted - 2015.08.24 02:42:00 - [44397] - Quote I quite like the Cal Assault. I don't like the ARR though. I think the regular RR is much better. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
XxBlazikenxX Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2015.08.24 02:45:00 - [44398] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: I quite like the Cal Assault. I don't like the ARR though. I think the regular RR is much better. Finally someone who gets it! Vader's-Fist is still alive and recruiting! Director of Vader's-Fist Amarr Victor
sir RAVEN WING Vader's-Fist 4	Posted - 2015.08.24 03:45:00 - [44399] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: I quite like the Cal Assault. I don't like the ARR though. I think the regular RR is much better. Finally someone who gets it! There is a reason you never see sir RAVEN WING [Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle] Redberry The kick on the ARR is too much for me to use. Bernie Sanders 2016
sir RAVEN WING Vader's-Fist 4	Posted - 2015.08.24 04:49:00 - [44400] - Quote 'I don't know what just happened, but I think I just fell in love.' - Raven. First match with a Nomad + Quafe Shotty. I feel dirty, but I don't care, I'm loving this Nomad. Bernie Sanders 2016



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