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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.08.03 17:40:00 -
[42811] - Quote
Ares 514 wrote:
Decent amount of ISK was lost.
Much fun was had, but lost a butt ton of Isk running PLC + Knives on a Base HP MinScout. Tooling around with a couple cheap fits at the moment to recoup my losses ...
Scout G-1 BPO (30.5k)
HS: Cmp Precision (x2)
LS: Bsc CPU, Cmp Ferro, Cmp Damp, Cmp KinCat
PW: Dren AR
SW: ZN-28s
GR: Flux
EQ: Bsc Cloak, Bsc RE
Scout C-1 BPO (28.9k)
HS: Cmp Precision, Cmp Myofib (x2), Enh Shield
LS: Cmp CPU, Cmp Damp
PW: Dren SG
SW: Std Bolt
GR: Flux
EQ: Bsc Cloak, Bsc RE
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.08.03 17:45:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Ares 514 wrote:
Decent amount of ISK was lost.
Much fun was had, but lost a butt ton of Isk running PLC + Knives on a Base HP MinScout. Tooling around with a couple cheap fits at the moment to recoup my losses ... Scout G-1 BPO (30.5k)HS: Cmp Precision (x2) LS: Bsc CPU, Cmp Ferro, Cmp Damp, Cmp KinCat PW: Dren AR SW: ZN-28s GR: Flux EQ: Bsc Cloak, Bsc RE Scout C-1 BPO (28.9k)HS: Cmp Precision, Cmp Myofib (x2), Enh Shield LS: Cmp CPU, Cmp Damp PW: Dren SG SW: Std Bolt GR: Flux EQ: Bsc Cloak, Bsc RE
If you want cheap, don't use Precision. For some reason those things are way overpriced versus other mods.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
12
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Posted - 2015.08.03 17:53:00 -
[42813] - Quote
Ares 514 wrote:
If you want cheap, don't use Precision. For some reason those things are way overpriced versus other mods.
Sure enough! Looks like an error.
Compared the various price points of Precision Enhancers, Damps and Range Extenders. The pricetag for Complex Precision Enhancers doesn't fit.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.08.03 18:16:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Ares 514 wrote:
If you want cheap, don't use Precision. For some reason those things are way overpriced versus other mods.
Sure enough! Looks like an error. Compared the various price points of Precision Enhancers, Damps and Range Extenders. The price of Complex Precision Enhancers doesn't fit the progression.
Maybe you could raise the issue, I feel like you might have more luck than I. I've known this for a long time and it's always annoyed me. Makes my quick to die scout fits more expensive.
I feel like some underused modules aren't used as much because they've never done a balance pass on them. They're often use proto or don't bother, have higher fitting requirements, and for some odd reason cost more ISK relative to other modules. |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
3
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Posted - 2015.08.03 18:19:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:http://www.ccpgames.com/en/public-relations/press-releases/article/79420/ccp-games-introduces-gunjack-samsung-gear-vr/
Hehe nice, love the cry of "Abaddon" at the end.
Didn't realise that's where CCP Red Wedding had "disappeared" to (still heading up Shanghai lol)
Encouraging to see Unreal Engine 4 being used - a good sign for DUST - was that common knowledge?
Also a little confused as to the platform that will run on - it will actually run on a tablet or something, with the VR gear plugged into it? |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
3
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Posted - 2015.08.03 18:25:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Jamie Survivors wrote:Dreis I got a Gal GK.O with 4 complex kincats. Nova Knifes etc. not in game or wont be for awhile to say exactly what I have but the speed is unreal like a min scout lol just something I tinkered with few months ago. Only ran it a few times IIRC, GalScout +4 sprints at 11.11 m/s, and MinScout +3 sprints at 11.12 m/s. If you haven't checked it out yet, www.protofits.com will calculate stats for you as you assemble loadouts. It isn't always right, especially following updates, but Cyrus does a good job at keeping it current. To the best of my knowledge, all scout-related stats (including EWAR) are up-to-date and accurate. Speaking of such things Anybody try the Officer Gal Scout with full Redjars yet? Haven't run a Scotsman yet. Protofits says 11.26 m/s. That 5th KinCat adds only +1.34%.
Yup, totally pointless unless you're testing whether hit detection breaks, or other such singularities appear. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
12
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Posted - 2015.08.03 18:32:00 -
[42817] - Quote
IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:http://www.ccpgames.com/en/public-relations/press-releases/article/79420/ccp-games-introduces-gunjack-samsung-gear-vr/ Hehe nice, love the cry of "Abaddon" at the end. Didn't realise that's where CCP Red Wedding had "disappeared" to (still heading up Shanghai lol) Encouraging to see Unreal Engine 4 being used - a good sign for DUST - was that common knowledge? Also a little confused as to the platform that will run on - it will actually run on a tablet or something, with the VR gear plugged into it?
A month or so back, Aeon dug up something on LinkedIn about a Shanghai Devs working UE4 project. Don't recall details. Looks like a tablet or phone game. Reminds me of old-school arcade "turret" shooters ... https://youtu.be/JMC9uNqBAj0?t=121
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
3
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Posted - 2015.08.03 18:36:00 -
[42818] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Ares 514 wrote:
If you want cheap, don't use Precision. For some reason those things are way overpriced versus other mods.
Sure enough! Looks like an error. Compared the various price points of Precision Enhancers, Damps and Range Extenders. The price of Complex Precision Enhancers doesn't fit the progression.
Heh there's plenty that doesn't fit the progression if you look hard enough. PG mods for example. The MLT is better than the STD. I noticed similar wobbles with other stuff not too long ago...don't remember what right now.
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Ghost Kaisar
Negative-Feedback
12
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Posted - 2015.08.03 18:45:00 -
[42819] - Quote
Ares 514 wrote:SG Min Scout Findings:
- Decent amount of ISK was lost.
- Advanced fit I came up ended up being same as my NK sprint fit for starting, personally I think more fun can be had with the NK's then SG and it might even be a bit more effective.
- Proto fit did not perform well with three red jars, couldn't fit enough shields to survive being tapped.
- Changed Proto fit to have 2 red and one blue which allowed 3 enhanced shields. Personally found the fit fairly underwhelming. Although it was a sub 90k ISK which is cheap for proto, it didn't perform nearly as effectively as other fits I have. I also found although I could sprint forever, the reduced speed from 3 to 2 reds made me feel like i was going slow in a fitting that need to go faster for it to work. Although you could have some fun and kill some guys in this fit, against any decent players you'd loose a ton of ISK IMO.
Summary, shield and speed tanking a min scout was not very effective for me. Although some players can speed tank, at this time I find it personally under performing. I do wonder if a keyboard mouse combo would work better for speed tanking since you could insta sprint after shooting, however with a ds3 it didn't not work very well.
That is a terrible fit.
Here is the only Min Scout shotgun fit you need.
1 Red solves almost all mobility issues. 2 damps is far more important than speed. What you want is that MASSIVE shield buffer to keep you alive while you sprint away. You have decent regen and delays. You just need enough speed to get around a corner. Once you hit the corner, you will have all the time in the world to do what you want. Sprint down some stairs, set up an ambush, keep running whatever.
You will NEVER dodge bullets with speed in this game. That time is dead.
What you need is 1 red for overall mobility, and to stick close to cover 24/7. Damps so that you don't get permascanned and locked down.
Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST
Un-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
3
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Posted - 2015.08.03 18:45:00 -
[42820] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:http://www.ccpgames.com/en/public-relations/press-releases/article/79420/ccp-games-introduces-gunjack-samsung-gear-vr/ Hehe nice, love the cry of "Abaddon" at the end. Didn't realise that's where CCP Red Wedding had "disappeared" to (still heading up Shanghai lol) Encouraging to see Unreal Engine 4 being used - a good sign for DUST - was that common knowledge? Also a little confused as to the platform that will run on - it will actually run on a tablet or something, with the VR gear plugged into it? A month or so back, Aeon dug up something on LinkedIn about a Shanghai Devs working UE4 project. Don't recall details. Looks like a tablet or phone game. Reminds me of old-school arcade "turret" shooters ... https://youtu.be/JMC9uNqBAj0?t=121
Yeah you're right, I thought it was a cross between Gyruss and Wipeout. There's still something cool about the music to Gyruss, but it's probably just my nostalgia. |
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
25
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Posted - 2015.08.03 18:46:00 -
[42821] - Quote
Scouts to be renamed Killer Ants.
Discuss.
Arkena Wyrnspire - CPM2 candidate
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noob cavman
Nos Nothi
3
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Posted - 2015.08.03 18:58:00 -
[42822] - Quote
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Scouts to be renamed Killer Ants.
Discuss.
.l..
The most abusive northerner.
Beware semi organic deviants turning our solar system into a toxic hell hole.
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VAHZZ
Vader's-Fist
6
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Posted - 2015.08.03 19:13:00 -
[42823] - Quote
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Scouts to be renamed Killer Ants.
Discuss.
I approve.
Director of Vader's Fist
"Never not lurk" - CCP Logibro
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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
3
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Posted - 2015.08.03 19:13:00 -
[42824] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:http://www.ccpgames.com/en/public-relations/press-releases/article/79420/ccp-games-introduces-gunjack-samsung-gear-vr/
"The Meh That Was Heard Around The World"
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
12
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Posted - 2015.08.03 19:18:00 -
[42825] - Quote
News!
TheD1CK, CEO of Dead Man's Game has extended our way a friendly invitation.
An All Scout Epic Showdown. The greatest NK battle in the history of MH. 
\o/
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Dried ShadowBeaver
Nos Nothi
58
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Posted - 2015.08.03 19:23:00 -
[42826] - Quote
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
25
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Posted - 2015.08.03 19:29:00 -
[42827] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:
An All Scout Ant Epic Showdown.
*approving nod*
Arkena Wyrnspire - CPM2 candidate
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.08.03 19:36:00 -
[42828] - Quote
Ghost Kaisar wrote:Ares 514 wrote:SG Min Scout Findings:
- Decent amount of ISK was lost.
- Advanced fit I came up ended up being same as my NK sprint fit for starting, personally I think more fun can be had with the NK's then SG and it might even be a bit more effective.
- Proto fit did not perform well with three red jars, couldn't fit enough shields to survive being tapped.
- Changed Proto fit to have 2 red and one blue which allowed 3 enhanced shields. Personally found the fit fairly underwhelming. Although it was a sub 90k ISK which is cheap for proto, it didn't perform nearly as effectively as other fits I have. I also found although I could sprint forever, the reduced speed from 3 to 2 reds made me feel like i was going slow in a fitting that need to go faster for it to work. Although you could have some fun and kill some guys in this fit, against any decent players you'd loose a ton of ISK IMO.
Summary, shield and speed tanking a min scout was not very effective for me. Although some players can speed tank, at this time I find it personally under performing. I do wonder if a keyboard mouse combo would work better for speed tanking since you could insta sprint after shooting, however with a ds3 it didn't not work very well. That is a terrible fit. Here is the only Min Scout shotgun fit you need. 1 Red solves almost all mobility issues. 2 damps is far more important than speed. What you want is that MASSIVE shield buffer to keep you alive while you sprint away. You have decent regen and delays. You just need enough speed to get around a corner. Once you hit the corner, you will have all the time in the world to do what you want. Sprint down some stairs, set up an ambush, keep running whatever. You will NEVER dodge bullets with speed in this game. That time is dead. What you need is 1 red for overall mobility, and to stick close to cover 24/7. Damps so that you don't get permascanned and locked down.
I succeeded in determining maxed speed SG fits in min scout are not very good which I believe was the original driver of trying it (or maybe i mistook what was said). :)
I'll give this fit a go although i doubt i'll run a proto SG, they're too expensive IMO versus advanced.
Do you really think two complex precisions are worth it? Is this fit for PC? I can't really see the need for two in pubs where there's not as much scans.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
12
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Posted - 2015.08.03 19:52:00 -
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@ PC Lag
Hopped into a PC on Haerr's invitation earlier today. The enemy no-showed, so there were 16 or fewer heads in battle. The majority of our blues hung out in our MCC and knifed each other to death. Some 150 - 200 clones were destroyed. 
Interestingly, we experienced lag / framerate drop / rubberbanding. It came and went, but I surprise to see it all given how few mercs were on the field.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
3
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Posted - 2015.08.03 19:58:00 -
[42830] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:News! TheD1CK, CEO of Dead Man's Game has extended our way a friendly invitation. An All Scout Ant Epic Showdown. The greatest NK battle in the history of MH. \o/
Hell. Yes. I am so down for this. Just say the word, cap'n
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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Spademan
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Posted - 2015.08.03 20:01:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:News! TheD1CK, CEO of Dead Man's Game has extended our way a friendly invitation. An All Scout Ant Epic Showdown. The greatest NK battle in the history of MH. \o/
Can I be that ******* that shows up with a massdriver?
What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
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First Prophet
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.08.03 20:26:00 -
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I don't get the ant thing.
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.08.03 20:30:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:@ PC Lag Hopped into a PC on Haerr's invitation earlier today. The enemy no-showed, so there were 16 or fewer heads in battle. The majority of our blues hung out in our MCC and knifed each other to death. Some 150 - 200 clones were destroyed. Interestingly, we experienced lag / framerate drop / rubberbanding. It came and went, but I was surprised to see it all given how few mercs were on the field.
I am fully convinced the majority of FPS issues have nothing to do with connection or number of players and more to do with some memory issue. Should test a single merc on a bridge map in PC that roams the entire map to see if they get lag. This should of course be recorded to try to enlighten CCP.
Edit: by memory issue I mean client side CCP coding issue. |
Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
3
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Posted - 2015.08.03 20:37:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Also, I don't get the ant thing.
Scouts and ants:
- Small
- Fast
- Stronger than their size would indicate
- Use tiny but sharp implements to fight
- Use pheromones to communicate and colonize in a rigid hierarchical social structure which favors the survival of the collective over that of the individual
- Have antennae
Wait a second...
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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VAHZZ
Vader's-Fist
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Posted - 2015.08.03 20:46:00 -
[42835] - Quote
Pseudogenesis wrote:First Prophet wrote:Also, I don't get the ant thing. Scouts and ants:
- Small
- Fast
- Stronger than their size would indicate
- Use tiny but sharp implements to fight
- Use pheromones to communicate and colonize in a rigid hierarchical social structure which favors the survival of the collective over that of the individual
- Have antennae
Wait a second...
Yeap, extremely accurate, right down to the antennae. I also like to think of the scout community as inflorescence, as opposed to the other communities which can be a bit lacerate, except for the logi community. **** you, i am a botanist!
Director of Vader's Fist
"Never not lurk" - CCP Logibro
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Haerr
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.08.03 20:50:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:@ PC Lag Hopped into a PC on Haerr's invitation earlier today. The enemy no-showed, so there were 16 or fewer heads in battle. The majority of our blues hung out in our MCC and knifed each other to death. Some 150 - 200 clones were destroyed. Interestingly, we experienced lag / framerate drop / rubberbanding. It came and went, but I was surprised to see it all given how few mercs were on the field.
I may have been at the bottom of the board on that one sporting a handsom 0/14. |
VAHZZ
Vader's-Fist
6
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Posted - 2015.08.03 20:52:00 -
[42837] - Quote
haerr wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:@ PC Lag Hopped into a PC on Haerr's invitation earlier today. The enemy no-showed, so there were 16 or fewer heads in battle. The majority of our blues hung out in our MCC and knifed each other to death. Some 150 - 200 clones were destroyed. Interestingly, we experienced lag / framerate drop / rubberbanding. It came and went, but I was surprised to see it all given how few mercs were on the field. I may have been at the bottom of the board on that one sporting a handsom 0/14.
Who are you guys? FA?
Wait...you are in FA aren't you....SHOW ME YOUR TAG DANG IT
Director of Vader's Fist
"Never not lurk" - CCP Logibro
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.08.03 20:54:00 -
[42838] - Quote
haerr wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:@ PC Lag Hopped into a PC on Haerr's invitation earlier today. The enemy no-showed, so there were 16 or fewer heads in battle. The majority of our blues hung out in our MCC and knifed each other to death. Some 150 - 200 clones were destroyed. Interestingly, we experienced lag / framerate drop / rubberbanding. It came and went, but I was surprised to see it all given how few mercs were on the field. I may have been at the bottom of the board on that one sporting a handsom 0/14.
Ahh, but it was worth it!
Killfeed Reads
TheD1CK - Nothi Knives - xxx
TheD1CK - Nothi Knives - xxx
TheD1CK - Nothi Knives - xxx
Haerr - Militia Nova Knives - TheD1CK
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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First Prophet
Nos Nothi
3
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Posted - 2015.08.03 20:54:00 -
[42839] - Quote
Pseudogenesis wrote:
Use pheromones to communicate and colonize in a rigid hierarchical social structure which favors the survival of the collective over that of the individual
Have antennae
You realize the rest of us aren't British.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.08.03 20:55:00 -
[42840] - Quote
First Prophet wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:News! TheD1CK, CEO of Dead Man's Game has extended our way a friendly invitation. An All Scout Ant Epic Showdown. The greatest NK battle in the history of MH. \o/ WHEN!?
Their timers current span 15:00 to 21:00. Suggestions?
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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