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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.06 21:49:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:So, scouts.
Assuming 360 scanning was not a thing, what would you hypothetically do with them if you could freely make balance changes to scouts? Just scouts. We hammered out a suggestion a few weeks ago that I thought was a good inter-scout balancing.
I can't remember all the details, but we took the dampening bonus from the Gal, and made it a class bonus (though I don't remember if we discussed a specific number), gave Amarr the biotics bonus, and I *think* gave Gal the range bonus.
I can't remember what we gave up for the additional class bonus, maybe the cloak fitting bonus, but I can't remember anything beyond this.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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2Berries
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
850
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Posted - 2015.05.06 21:54:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:So, scouts.
Assuming 360 scanning was not a thing, what would you hypothetically do with them if you could freely make balance changes to scouts? Just scouts. We hammered out a suggestion a few weeks ago that I thought was a good inter-scout balancing. I can't remember all the details, but we took the dampening bonus from the Gal, and made it a class bonus (though I don't remember if we discussed a specific number), gave Amarr the biotics bonus, and I *think* gave Gal the range bonus. I can't remember what we gave up for the additional class bonus, maybe the cloak fitting bonus, but I can't remember anything beyond this. How about we give cal scouts a resistance to fall damage?
Evening Boys, Hows the water?
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Fristname Family name
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.06 21:57:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Apparently matchmaking is perfect and there are no issues apart from a single strange case. i can search a game with diffent waiting times adn be matched wiht the same people every time XD not that i care
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look forward to seeing you there spread the word
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Quil Evrything
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.06 22:02:00 -
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[quote=Forced Death though I find that ZN-28 end up doing pretty well on anything. Before, Ishukones were better because you dealt higher damage faster. These days, it's so hard to get the jump, and when you do, ZN's do it anyway. 160*4= 640\.[/quote]
well thats your problem right there. stop only doing jump-charge kills. go for the drivebys, and other dirty tricks. For the really fancy stuff, (or just for staying alive in a pack a little longer, you dont have time to charge. you have to be able to just quickslash in the middle of running
So if you're not using proto and doing that, you're not getting full value for your knifing skill.
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
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Posted - 2015.05.06 22:37:00 -
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2Berries wrote:Oh, how things change.
I grew up with a bunch of thugs who pretty much did whatever, whenever. Now i'm sitting in the procecutors office waiting to testify on behalf of the state.
Kid me would have keyed adult me's car by now.
Clarification: i am not testifying against anyone i know or for anything related to me. I'm like the lorax of a state agency, I speak for the database.
Honest to god - i am not a snitch.
booo getting older
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Adipem Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.06 22:41:00 -
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Fristname Family name wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Apparently matchmaking is perfect and there are no issues apart from a single strange case. i can search a game with diffent waiting times adn be matched wiht the same people every time XD not that i care I see alot of the same names as well, but I haven't had any issues queuing solo today. Typically getting into match within a couple times.
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- Ripley Riley
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2Berries
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
851
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Posted - 2015.05.06 22:51:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:2Berries wrote:Oh, how things change.
I grew up with a bunch of thugs who pretty much did whatever, whenever. Now i'm sitting in the procecutors office waiting to testify on behalf of the state.
Kid me would have keyed adult me's car by now.
Clarification: i am not testifying against anyone i know or for anything related to me. I'm like the lorax of a state agency, I speak for the database.
Honest to god - i am not a snitch. booo getting older I don't recommend it. Thought buying my CBR1000 was going to take care of that for me.
*shakes fist to the sky
"We had a deal, god!"
Evening Boys, Hows the water?
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9467
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Posted - 2015.05.06 23:01:00 -
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2Berries wrote: How about we give cal scouts a resistance to fall damage?
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
3488
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Posted - 2015.05.06 23:05:00 -
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For the first time, I've finally experienced the lag in the Gallente Research Facility as people describe it. It was awful, and I was on, like, 3 FPS.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
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2Berries
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
855
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Posted - 2015.05.06 23:20:00 -
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Seriously considering publishing a Girls of the Prosecutors Office calendar.
Evening Boys, Hows the water?
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Forced Death
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
788
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Posted - 2015.05.06 23:55:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:[quote=Forced Death though I find that ZN-28 end up doing pretty well on anything. Before, Ishukones were better because you dealt higher damage faster. These days, it's so hard to get the jump, and when you do, ZN's do it anyway. 160*4= 640\.
well thats your problem right there. stop only doing jump-charge kills. go for the drivebys, and other dirty tricks. For the really fancy stuff, (or just for staying alive in a pack a little longer, you dont have time to charge. you have to be able to just quickslash in the middle of running
So if you're not using proto and doing that, you're not getting full value for your knifing skill. [/quote] lol I meant surprising someone when I said "get the jump"
I do like Ishukones, but I'm saying that ZN's aren't a bad alternative
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Adipem Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.07 00:02:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:So, scouts. Assuming 360 scanning was not a thing, what would you hypothetically do with them if you could freely make balance changes to scouts? Just scouts.
Pseudogenesis wrote:Easiest fix would be reverting/fine tuning some of the more hamfisted nerfs scouts got in the past. Tweaks to passive scans and cloak buffs are the two most direct fixes that come to mind. Buffs to those + the upcoming nerfs to assault movement speed and RE throwing distance would put the class in a great spot imo. All that would be needed after is racial balancing between scout suits.
One Eyed King wrote: We hammered out a suggestion a few weeks ago that I thought was a good inter-scout balancing. I can't remember all the details, but we took the dampening bonus from the Gal, and made it a class bonus (though I don't remember if we discussed a specific number), gave Amarr the biotics bonus, and I *think* gave Gal the range bonus. I can't remember what we gave up for the additional class bonus, maybe the cloak fitting bonus, but I can't remember anything beyond this.
The workup OEK referred to assumed all else was held constant; if Rattati intends to tune assault speed and/or brick, then we'll need a new workup. I'm with Pseudo; stick with something small, like rolling back a portion of cloakblind and decloak delay. Thinking ...
If decloak delay is presently 3 seconds, make it 2 seconds. If cloakblind is presently an 85% range reduction, make it a 50% range reduction.
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- Ripley Riley
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:00:00 -
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Made a min scout fit, played couple games. Only got 1 lil clip i liked
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Adipem Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:12:00 -
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^ So much sexy
And more! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2762248#post2762248 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-iJK7EIx7k&feature=youtu.be
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.07 02:02:00 -
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Three things!
Squad Scanners vs Team Scanners (would love to hear your thoughts) Jadek's cool post (w/link to old Dust intro!) Timelines updated at thang.dk (\o/ data!)
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Quil Evrything
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.07 04:13:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote: * Reduce cloakblind's 85% range reduction to a 50% - 60%.
pfft. reduce cloakblind to 0% reduction. passive scan is pathetically nerfed enough as it is. |
Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.07 04:50:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:
~ 01:33:20 Q. Goals for next hotfix? [Paraphrased] A. Logis are next. Will probably swap Assault and Logistic speeds to keep in line with a hitpoint-per-speed ratio. This might help with the Minmatar Assault issue as well.
Vindication!
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.07 04:51:00 -
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Hehe, reminds me of my mom. I've tried to tell her that you can't use exclamation points in place of every punctuation mark but she just!!! won't!!!! listen!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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Pseudogenesis
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Posted - 2015.05.07 04:55:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote: * Reduce decloak delay from 3 seconds to 2 seconds. * Reduce cloakblind's 85% range reduction to a 50% - 60%.
While cloakblind reduction would be nice, I believe the two most necessary changes are a reduction in the decloak delay and a decrease/rework to the shimmer effect. In fact I would even be alright with dropping the delay reduction altogether if they fixed the damn shimmer, it's so easy to spot you might as well not be cloaked in the first place. The cloak is my baby, it hurts to see it mistreated this way
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
2309
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Posted - 2015.05.07 06:20:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Apparently matchmaking is perfect and there are no issues apart from a single strange case.
Yeah this is the second time I genuinely fear for the game. Very strange. Just goes to show measuring numbers isn't everything.
Adipem Nothi wrote:Yes!!! Run straight knives! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yscdf_-ztOU^ That footage is pre-falloff, pre-MinAssault pre-Scout EWAR nerfs ... straight knives are even harder to pull off now. Edit: NKs + Breach Shotgun would be pretty tough as well. Definitely underdog material, even if you're running with stompers.
1:30 to 1:47 : Now this is stealth in plain sight - great moves.
I miss my Minja.
Did you get out of the redline in time? Very nice play either way. |
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
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Posted - 2015.05.07 06:27:00 -
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Aaaand Jolly with the knife-noob double - nerf him right now, or our knives will be nerfed instead. |
J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
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Posted - 2015.05.07 12:02:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Aaaand Jolly with the knife-noob double - nerf him right now, or our knives will be nerfed instead.
Yeah barely got our if the twins with .o1... something left. Then dropped out of the ship on to 3 redat obj and died instantly
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Adipem Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.07 12:14:00 -
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Pseudogenesis wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote: * Reduce decloak delay from 3 seconds to 2 seconds. * Reduce cloakblind's 85% range reduction to a 50% - 60%.
While cloakblind reduction would be nice, I believe the two most necessary changes are a reduction in the decloak delay and a decrease/rework to the shimmer effect. In fact I would even be alright with dropping the delay reduction altogether if they fixed the damn shimmer, it's so easy to spot you might as well not be cloaked in the first place. The cloak is my baby, it hurts to see it mistreated this way I agree with you, though improvements to shimmer would very likely require client-side update. We don't know whether or not it'll even be possible for the current team to recode shimmer; if they can, I'd be the first to say they have bigger things to work on right now.
Uprising 1.9 - November 4th -- 35 days -- Uprising 1.10 - December 9th -- 54 days -- Warlords 1.0 - February 3rd -- 85 days -- Warlords 1.1 - April 28th
I'd say Warlords 1.2 will arrive no sooner than late June / early July; they've alot to work on already with PC 2.0, Command Points, Raids, etc and I seriously doubt they'd have time to squeeze in a shimmer overhaul. I suspect 1.3 (Aug/Sep?) would be a more realistic goal for significant cloak and/or EWAR changes. Meanwhile, we'll definitely get one server-side hotfix (Logi/Assault balance pass?) between now and 1.2 ... possibly two (HAV/ADS content drop/balance pass?) if 1.2 development runs long. If we keep our request simple -- something small and server-side with low risk of upsetting balance -- they might be willing/able to squeeze it in to one of these hotfixes.
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- Ripley Riley
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.07 12:38:00 -
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Ninja Hotfix!!
Modules * PG Upgrade moved to High Slot * Myofibs capped at 3 per loadout * PG Upgrade fitting costs nerf * CPU Upgrade fitting cost nerf
Weapons * Assault HMG buff * Experimental ACR stats fixed
Equipment * All hives now 6 * Uplinks carry count buff * Proxi mine carry count buff * Packed RE blast radius and toss range increased * RE frisbee prevention (toss range reduced by half)
Vehicles * LAV slot/fitting buff * Small blaster dispersion buff * Vehicle Shield Regulator Modules moved to Low Slot * Vehicle Dispersion Stabilizer Modules moved to High Slot * Large missile reload nerf * Large blaster heat nerf * Armor/Shield hardener activation delay (@ Quil - This relates closely to our earlier AV conversation) * Shield hardener recharge buffed * Large rail heat buff * Large blaster reload buff
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- Ripley Riley
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9474
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Posted - 2015.05.07 12:46:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:On the subject of scanning, do focussed scanners definately only share with squad? It certainly seems so looking at what Rattati says in balance threads, and what's been said here, but some people in corp were sure they team share.
I haven't been able to confirm in game. Anyone tested it?
Tested last night with Otrera Goddess. Duvolle Focused Scanner appears to be sharing results squad-wide (working as intended). It was actually pretty tough to test. Scotty put Otrera and I into a skirmish match with a squad of Fatal Absolution; it was hard to find a test area with enemies which wasn't under permascan.
Noob Cavman was there!
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
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Posted - 2015.05.07 13:15:00 -
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Yep, jumpy fit didn't get touched so that's good XD Compact nano hive finally gets 6 instead of the one? Guess that'll replace my basic hive.
RE thing won't hurt I don't think. Effects the tank hunter more than: Suicide RE guy Or the Rooftop re dropper
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Posted - 2015.05.07 14:02:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote: When it comes down to it though. . Plasma cannon and dais is what I use for vehicles now
I'm excited about the 1 second increase in Hardener Activation time; might be just enough time to get in another AV Nade or PLC blast. Thinking we should test tossing Packed REs at infantry to confirm that they can't be as effectively frisbee'd as the old REs; the blast radius was increased, but he didn't specify by how much.
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Posted - 2015.05.07 14:21:00 -
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Loyalty Rank restrictions dropped from 4 to 2
Newsletter freebies reportedly can't be redeemed for dates prior to a merc's DOB, so exploitation is at least limited on that front.
Daily golden keys can't be traded, so no problems there; guess you could run a bunch of alts until you get your daily key. Would take a 'bit of time, but you'd get to open more wrongboxes than the next guy every day. Cross your fingers for transferable gear, salvage the rest for a little Isk. Seems like a waste of time to me.
Alt-farming Isk was likely happening anyway, so no change in status quo.
The biggest exploit I can think of involves farming daily Officer Gear via Experimental Lab using multiple accounts. It'll take quite some time to passively generate enough barge components to unlock the Experimental Lab, so at least it won't happen right away.
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noob cavman
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.07 14:35:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:On the subject of scanning, do focussed scanners definately only share with squad? It certainly seems so looking at what Rattati says in balance threads, and what's been said here, but some people in corp were sure they team share.
I haven't been able to confirm in game. Anyone tested it? Tested last night with Otrera Goddess. Duvolle Focused Scanner appears to be sharing results squad-wide (working as intended). It was actually pretty tough to test. Scotty put Otrera and I into a skirmish match with a squad of Fatal Absolution; it was hard to find a test area with enemies which wasn't under permascan. Noob Cavman was there! you get a scan You get a scan Everybody gets a scan! Its an easy money fit my scan suit. 370 armour tho so I die with the quickness.
assault one day,scout the next but logi keeps me way in profit
I want to be a caveman!
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Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.07 14:52:00 -
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Good stuff, Duncan!!!
Borrowed From: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2761841#post2761841
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