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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
2042
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Posted - 2015.03.08 04:46:00 -
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Greiv Rabbah wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:As much as a hybrid logi/assault sounds interesting, the best solution, imo, would be to just remove the basic frames altogether. To be honest I never liked the idea of them. "Oo I'm wearing a basic medium frame". Hardly sounds inspiring. It just adds unneeded complexity to the game, not to mention the fact they are generally very poor compared to the real suits. Both things that are bad for new players. We should just accept the fact there is no point in them and remove them. The frame skills should give a bonus to all suits of that size, access to the specialist suit skills should be at level 1 frame (hope that makes sense). The colour schemes should be available somewhere else, like salvage and aurum (we could use the awesome all black suits as actual scout suits ). Are y'all trying to stress me? I'm honestly afraid that everything in this game is going to be removed until there's only 2 roles: heavy and logi. And heavies will only be allowed to use heavy weapons and logis will only be allowed to use equipment and sidearms, and the only game mode left will be ambush... And that's when people will realize the nerfvalanche is real and the last 32 people left (8 armor tanking heavies with hmgs and 24 shield tanking logis with smgs, reps, hives, uplinks, & needles) will realize all at once how pointless and broken the game has become will quit. And then dust will be dead. Do y'all realize this is the direction we're starting to go here? Been waiting for the /tinfoil but it hasn't happened yet
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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Forced Death
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
68
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Posted - 2015.03.08 04:48:00 -
[30692] - Quote
Pseudogenesis wrote:Greiv Rabbah wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:As much as a hybrid logi/assault sounds interesting, the best solution, imo, would be to just remove the basic frames altogether. To be honest I never liked the idea of them. "Oo I'm wearing a basic medium frame". Hardly sounds inspiring. It just adds unneeded complexity to the game, not to mention the fact they are generally very poor compared to the real suits. Both things that are bad for new players. We should just accept the fact there is no point in them and remove them. The frame skills should give a bonus to all suits of that size, access to the specialist suit skills should be at level 1 frame (hope that makes sense). The colour schemes should be available somewhere else, like salvage and aurum (we could use the awesome all black suits as actual scout suits ). Are y'all trying to stress me? I'm honestly afraid that everything in this game is going to be removed until there's only 2 roles: heavy and logi. And heavies will only be allowed to use heavy weapons and logis will only be allowed to use equipment and sidearms, and the only game mode left will be ambush... And that's when people will realize the nerfvalanche is real and the last 32 people left (8 armor tanking heavies with hmgs and 24 shield tanking logis with smgs, reps, hives, uplinks, & needles) will realize all at once how pointless and broken the game has become will quit. And then dust will be dead. Do y'all realize this is the direction we're starting to go here? Been waiting for the /tinfoil but it hasn't happened yet /tinfoil
TritusX
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
440
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Posted - 2015.03.08 04:49:00 -
[30693] - Quote
Forced Death wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:Greiv Rabbah wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:As much as a hybrid logi/assault sounds interesting, the best solution, imo, would be to just remove the basic frames altogether. To be honest I never liked the idea of them. "Oo I'm wearing a basic medium frame". Hardly sounds inspiring. It just adds unneeded complexity to the game, not to mention the fact they are generally very poor compared to the real suits. Both things that are bad for new players. We should just accept the fact there is no point in them and remove them. The frame skills should give a bonus to all suits of that size, access to the specialist suit skills should be at level 1 frame (hope that makes sense). The colour schemes should be available somewhere else, like salvage and aurum (we could use the awesome all black suits as actual scout suits ). Are y'all trying to stress me? I'm honestly afraid that everything in this game is going to be removed until there's only 2 roles: heavy and logi. And heavies will only be allowed to use heavy weapons and logis will only be allowed to use equipment and sidearms, and the only game mode left will be ambush... And that's when people will realize the nerfvalanche is real and the last 32 people left (8 armor tanking heavies with hmgs and 24 shield tanking logis with smgs, reps, hives, uplinks, & needles) will realize all at once how pointless and broken the game has become will quit. And then dust will be dead. Do y'all realize this is the direction we're starting to go here? Been waiting for the /tinfoil but it hasn't happened yet /tinfoil /tinfoil
Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H
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Forced Death
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
72
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Posted - 2015.03.08 04:52:00 -
[30694] - Quote
XxBlazikenxX wrote:Forced Death wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:Greiv Rabbah wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:As much as a hybrid logi/assault sounds interesting, the best solution, imo, would be to just remove the basic frames altogether. To be honest I never liked the idea of them. "Oo I'm wearing a basic medium frame". Hardly sounds inspiring. It just adds unneeded complexity to the game, not to mention the fact they are generally very poor compared to the real suits. Both things that are bad for new players. We should just accept the fact there is no point in them and remove them. The frame skills should give a bonus to all suits of that size, access to the specialist suit skills should be at level 1 frame (hope that makes sense). The colour schemes should be available somewhere else, like salvage and aurum (we could use the awesome all black suits as actual scout suits ). Are y'all trying to stress me? I'm honestly afraid that everything in this game is going to be removed until there's only 2 roles: heavy and logi. And heavies will only be allowed to use heavy weapons and logis will only be allowed to use equipment and sidearms, and the only game mode left will be ambush... And that's when people will realize the nerfvalanche is real and the last 32 people left (8 armor tanking heavies with hmgs and 24 shield tanking logis with smgs, reps, hives, uplinks, & needles) will realize all at once how pointless and broken the game has become will quit. And then dust will be dead. Do y'all realize this is the direction we're starting to go here? Been waiting for the /tinfoil but it hasn't happened yet /tinfoil /tinfoil /tinfoil is unreal /tinfoil
TritusX
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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
2046
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Posted - 2015.03.08 04:52:00 -
[30695] - Quote
Thanks guys that makes me feel better (y)
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
440
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Posted - 2015.03.08 04:54:00 -
[30696] - Quote
Pseudogenesis wrote:Thanks guys that makes me feel better (y) No prob.
Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H
Recruitment, Free BPOs!
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Bayeth Mal
Nos Nothi
2451
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Posted - 2015.03.08 05:26:00 -
[30697] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Jebus McKing wrote:One Eyed King wrote: If they weren't worth speccing into, they wouldn't be the most popular suits right now. They may not have the best bonuses, but the general slot layout and base numbers seem to make them worth it.
Yeah, no, I was just referring to the bonuses themselves. Not to the suits in general. The suits are fine. But if people tell me that if we made Basic Mediums better then there would be no reason anymore to spec into Assaults doesn't that mean that there is an issue with the bonuses being viewed as not worth the SP? People spec into Assaults because the suit is good, not because they like the bonus. Some don't even use the right primary weapon to make use of the bonus they get. If I were driving, I'd swap Logi and Assault speeds then roll out awesome bonuses for the suits which lack them: CA Assault - Reduced spool-up time; reduced kick GA Assault - Tighter hipfire dispersion; increased RoF MN Assault - Same AM Assault - Same If we rolled out awesome bonuses now, I believe we'd be flirting with trouble; Assaults are presently the best suits available. Why the heck would the AM Assault need tighter hipfire dispersion or an increased ROF? "Same" = same bonus as current bonus. But wouldn't an increased RoF for GA mean increased DPS?
As much as I'd love the buff for one of my Gal suits, and I'd certianly use it, it'd become FotM before you can blink. Unless you nerf blasters, making them useless for everybody but Gal Assault.
We'll bang, OK?
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voidfaction
Nos Nothi
1268
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Posted - 2015.03.08 09:40:00 -
[30698] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Jebus McKing wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Jebus McKing wrote:Him, everyone I'm talking to rather wants to see Basic suits removed completely than made viable, because lol no one will use Assaults anymore. Is this an indication for a problem with the Assault bonuses? Are they not worth speccing into? If they weren't worth speccing into, they wouldn't be the most popular suits right now. They may not have the best bonuses, but the general slot layout and base numbers seem to make them worth it. Yeah, no, I was just referring to the bonuses themselves. Not to the suits in general. The suits are fine. But if people tell me that if we made Basic Mediums better then there would be no reason anymore to spec into Assaults doesn't that mean that there is an issue with the bonuses being viewed as not worth the SP? People spec into Assaults because the suit is good, not because they like the bonus. Some don't even use the right primary weapon to make use of the bonus they get. If I were driving, I'd swap Logi and Assault speeds then roll out awesome bonuses for the suits which lack them: CA Assault - Reduced spool-up time; reduced kick GA Assault - Tighter hipfire dispersion; increased RoF MN Assault - Same AM Assault - Same If we rolled out awesome bonuses now, I believe we'd be flirting with trouble; Assaults are presently the best suits available. reduced ADS kick. I want to know my gal assault ar is the better at short range vs my cal assault and the opposite at ADS range
noi¦Ü+ö+Æßû+(V)Faction
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Bayeth Mal
Nos Nothi
2452
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Posted - 2015.03.08 11:55:00 -
[30699] - Quote
One potential buff or better bonus for GA assault would be increased mag size and reload bonus. That would be enough for me to run a Gal weapon, though how that would work with PLC I'm not sure. With the reload you might be stepping into commando territory, but people in general I think underestimate how useful that kind of bonus is. Combine it with larger mag and you have a very hipfire friendly weapon (which is the point of trying to make Gal CQC?).
Tighter hipfire I actually find over rated IMHO, though that may just be opinion.
I say this as Gal suit specialist (minmando lvl 3, everything else is gal. Scout, Sentinel, Logi, Assault).
For CA I would suggest vastly improved ADS kick. A RR isn't that great at range if you can't land your shots on target. And again a bonus to clip size. Could be set up in such a way as to make the sniper rifle far easier to use.
I say this as a RR afficionado. At this point I must have more RR kills than any other weapon but have since scrapped it.
We'll bang, OK?
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
22526
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Posted - 2015.03.08 14:32:00 -
[30700] - Quote
@Adipem - Regarding your proposed assault bonuses, RoF on the Galassault is a bonus that normally gets people frothing at the mouth with rage. Why do you support it?
Gallente Guide
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Denak Kalamari
1671
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Posted - 2015.03.08 15:02:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:EDIT: Unrelated: Do I prepare for an hour long presentation on my research paper tomorrow, or do I play GW2...? Choices, choices. My bet goes on GW2. Making presentations suck anyway.
I still write, just not about DUST anymore nor is it often updated. Read if you want
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
7365
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Posted - 2015.03.08 15:13:00 -
[30702] - Quote
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:@Adipem - Regarding your proposed assault bonuses, RoF on the Galassault is a bonus that normally gets people frothing at the mouth with rage. Why do you support it? CA and GA Assault bonuses should be as awesome and desirable as those of MN and AM Assault.
ADS Kick and Spool Up make the most sense for long-range rail weaponry. RoF and Hipfire Dispersion make the most sense for close-to-mid range plasma weaponry. If these "awesome" bonuses were to break a given weapon, we can follow up by tuning that specific weapon. I don't think that either case would transform weapon performance as dramatically as the borderline OP AM Assault + ScR.
Caveat The assault suits themselves are too good for this right now. I know its fun, but 1000HP units shouldn't be running around only 5% - 10% slower than suits with 1/3 to 1/2 their HP. Knock their speed down a 'bit, then give them the awesome racial bonuses.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
7365
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Posted - 2015.03.08 15:15:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:reduced ADS kick.
Absolutely agree. I was thinking "ADS Kick" but only wrote "Kick".
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
22535
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Posted - 2015.03.08 15:37:00 -
[30704] - Quote
Would prefer to buff scout speed tbh.
Gallente Guide
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Ghost Kaisar
Negative-Feedback
10401
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Posted - 2015.03.08 15:41:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Would prefer to buff scout speed tbh.
GOTTA GO FAST
Currently listening to: Max Anarchy OST
Old School Scout, watch out for the knives
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
6924
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Posted - 2015.03.08 16:54:00 -
[30706] - Quote
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:
EDIT: Unrelated: Do I prepare for an hour long presentation on my research paper tomorrow, or do I play GW2...? Choices, choices.
I find anything I've put enough research into can be talked about without preparationGǪ. GW2 it is
MOAR Ladders
SpadeGǪ Remember your Warbarge
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
7369
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Posted - 2015.03.08 17:23:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Would prefer to buff scout speed tbh. If we can without breaking anything, then absolutely. If we can't, then we should either reduce Assault speed or implement Rattati's mass:movement model.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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dzizur
Expert Intervention Caldari State
165
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Posted - 2015.03.08 18:30:00 -
[30708] - Quote
/tinfoil hat on
There's an unnamed scout g-1 variant |
sir RAVEN WING
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
3149
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Posted - 2015.03.08 19:01:00 -
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dzizur wrote:/tinfoil hat on There's an unnamed scout g-1 variant So...
5MCC is rewarding G-1 Scouts?
Considering it's one of the best scouts, I'll get to killing.
Better be named 'Dust Bunny' and have a jump boast.
To anger a calm man like me is a near impossible task...
...One that only DUST 514 has accomplished
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
6925
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Posted - 2015.03.08 19:04:00 -
[30710] - Quote
I was really hoping for a BPO Breach Flaylock
but i am probably the only one
MOAR Ladders
SpadeGǪ Remember your Warbarge
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
451
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Posted - 2015.03.08 19:23:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:I was really hoping for a BPO Breach Flaylock
but i am probably the only one You're not alone.
Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
22550
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Posted - 2015.03.08 19:54:00 -
[30712] - Quote
It greatly entertains me when I outrun a Minscout in my triple kincat assault.
Gallente Guide
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sir RAVEN WING
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
3152
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Posted - 2015.03.08 19:55:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It greatly entertains me when I outrun a Minscout in my triple kincat assault. I am deciding whether I should leave you to go insane in a room without stimulus, or just kill you now.
To anger a calm man like me is a near impossible task...
...One that only DUST 514 has accomplished
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8300
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Posted - 2015.03.08 19:56:00 -
[30714] - Quote
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It greatly entertains me when I outrun a Minscout in my triple kincat assault.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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voidfaction
Nos Nothi
1269
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Posted - 2015.03.08 20:03:00 -
[30715] - Quote
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It greatly entertains me when I outrun a Minscout in my triple kincat assault. I am going to be greatly entertained if/when they swap the logi and assault speeds.
noi¦Ü+ö+Æßû+(V)Faction
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8301
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Posted - 2015.03.08 20:17:00 -
[30716] - Quote
voidfaction wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It greatly entertains me when I outrun a Minscout in my triple kincat assault. I am going to be greatly entertained if/when they swap the logi and assault speeds. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw some more Slayer Logis then.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Forced Death
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
83
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Posted - 2015.03.08 20:59:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:dzizur wrote:/tinfoil hat on There's an unnamed scout g-1 variant So... 5MCC is rewarding G-1 Scouts? Considering it's one of the best scouts, I'll get to killing. Better be named 'Dust Bunny' and have a jump boast. Good for newbies, bad for everyone who bought the dragonfly scout... Let me go cry in a corner... I BOUGHT TWO MERC PACKS WHY DIDN'T I JUST BUY THE STUPID VET PACK
TritusX
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Bayeth Mal
Nos Nothi
2460
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Posted - 2015.03.08 21:52:00 -
[30718] - Quote
If it's just a Gal scout BPO I'm going to be very disappointed.
It should at least be a BPO for something we haven't yet had a BPO for.
We'll bang, OK?
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8301
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Posted - 2015.03.08 21:54:00 -
[30719] - Quote
Bayeth Mal wrote:If it's just a Gal scout BPO I'm going to be very disappointed.
It should at least be a BPO for something we haven't yet had a BPO for. Breach Shotgun?
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
6033
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Posted - 2015.03.08 21:55:00 -
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Black eagle bpo.
What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
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