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XxBlazikenxX wrote:

Adipem Nothi wrote:

Tried running the Ishukone Sniper Rifle today ...

The headshot multiplier is great, but it is damn near impossible to line up a headshot on a moving target. If a target's wiggling at longish range, I'll miss him 3 out of 5 times aiming center mass. Aim for the head and miss 5 for 5. It is total a crapshoot and comes down to pure chance.

So aim for the body, right?

If it's a Scout you're shooting at, you hit him once then he begins to evade. With a little luck, you'll hit him again and get the kill before he reaches cover. But if it is anything else, you have to hit him again and again and often again and again. This isn't so bad a requirement with the Tac SR, but the Ishukone fires too dang slow and kicks too dang hard for a weapon which requires consecutive shot placement to kill.

Not sure what to suggest. Less wiggling and inertia on directional change would help. Perhaps better zoom fidelity and an improved fire interval as well?

Yeah, I like the TacSR better than the regular one, it is so much easier to use. (I run medium range mobile sniper.)

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One Eyed King Nos Nothi 8235	Posted - 2015.03.05 02:22:00 - [30481] - Quote I think Llast, Pseudo, and I need to do some training on how to lose ISK. I run std fits and fits under 30 and 40 K and lose isk sometimes. I even lost 300k running Adv or lower fits. I could REALLY blow some ISK on proto fits. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1582	Posted - 2015.03.05 02:42:00 - [30482] - Quote Well I finished rewritting my tool that let's me do this Here's a little clip of it running So much more seamless compared to when I would do it manually. e: Apparently people think I'm CCP FoxFour lolol Our lives are nothing but a means to an end. AIV member. 21 day EVE trial.
CPM Awox Mexican Justice League 144	Posted - 2015.03.05 02:54:00 - [30483] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Well I finished rewritting my tool that let's me do this Here's a little clip of it running So much more seamless compared to when I would do it manually. e: Apparently people think I'm CCP FoxFour lolol fgt Killed again has Super-Ebola.
Ghost Kaisar Negative-Feedback 10308	Posted - 2015.03.05 03:08:00 - [30484] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Well I finished rewritting my tool that let's me do this Here's a little clip of it running So much more seamless compared to when I would do it manually. e: Apparently people think I'm CCP FoxFour lolol LOL That's great! EDIT: How can I use this? I have no clue. I downloaded the latest update. Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe. Nobody messes with my family
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 2216	Posted - 2015.03.05 04:51:00 - [30485] - Quote Tried out the knifes, didn't get a single kill with them. Domination communications map. They got pushed out and never tried to actually get back in the gates. X( Did try out h1z1 though. So flippin fun. Except the dieing i've done that a good bit. Best moment: looting some houses, see a guy coming around the corner of one of the houses near, he pauses as he looks my way so i know I have his attention, Continuing to loot a trash can outside a house pretending I don't see him, I finished and duck inside the house, waited on the dude to come inside and run past the room i was waiting in. I prepare to attack, all I had on me was a flash light, blackberries, some sticks, and XD a combat knife. I run out of the room right at the dude in the motorcycle helmet holding a pistol in his hand as he searches rooms for me. I start spamming the left click button as I near, he turns and shoots me 3 or 4 times as I fall. He says, wtff he came at me with a stick! Yep, I scrolled past the knife and went onto a stick. Tldr: 1st bit of combat in h1z1, I set a trap, and failed a stick up. No Safety Net. TLDR : XD
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7264	Posted - 2015.03.05 05:05:00 - [30486] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: He says, wtff he came at me with a stick! Whoa! When you say "he says", did you hear him or was this something he typed? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7268	Posted - 2015.03.05 05:32:00 - [30487] - Quote Tried running the Ishukone Sniper Rifle today ... The headshot multiplier is great, but it is damn near impossible to line up a headshot on a moving target. If a target's wiggling at longish range, I'll miss him 3 out of 5 times aiming center mass. Aim for the head and miss 5 for 5. It is total a crapshoot and comes down to pure chance. So aim for the body, right? If it's a Scout you're shooting at, you hit him once then he begins to evade. With a little luck, you'll hit him again and get the kill before he reaches cover. But if it is anything else, you have to hit him again and again and often again and again. This isn't so bad a requirement with the Tac SR, but the Ishukone fires too dang slow and kicks too dang hard for a weapon which requires consecutive shot placement to kill. Not sure what to suggest. Less wiggling and inertia on directional change would help. Perhaps better zoom fidelity and an improved fire interval as well? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
XxBlazikenxX Y.A.M.A.H 423	Posted - 2015.03.05 05:35:00 - [30488] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Tried running the Ishukone Sniper Rifle today ... The headshot multiplier is great, but it is damn near impossible to line up a headshot on a moving target. If a target's wiggling at longish range, I'll miss him 3 out of 5 times aiming center mass. Aim for the head and miss 5 for 5. It is total a crapshoot and comes down to pure chance. So aim for the body, right? If it's a Scout you're shooting at, you hit him once then he begins to evade. With a little luck, you'll hit him again and get the kill before he reaches cover. But if it is anything else, you have to hit him again and again and often again and again. This isn't so bad a requirement with the Tac SR, but the Ishukone fires too dang slow and kicks too dang hard for a weapon which requires consecutive shot placement to kill. Not sure what to suggest. Less wiggling and inertia on directional change would help. Perhaps better zoom fidelity and an improved fire interval as well? Yeah, I like the TacSR better than the regular one, it is so much easier to use. (I run medium range mobile sniper.) Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H Recruitment, Free BPOs!
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 2010	Posted - 2015.03.05 05:43:00 - [30489] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: I think Llast, Pseudo, and I need to do some training on how to lose ISK. I run std fits and fits under 30 and 40 K and lose isk sometimes. I even lost 300k running Adv or lower fits. I could REALLY blow some ISK on proto fits. Actually I think I've hit the sweet spot in terms of price:efficacy ratio. I run fits that cost about 30k on average and slowly but surely fill my wallet as a result. Though there were a couple weekends a while back where I ran nothing but all proto minjas... I lost so much. It was so worth it. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
voidfaction Nos Nothi 1244	Posted - 2015.03.05 05:49:00 - [30490] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Tried running the Ishukone Sniper Rifle today ... The headshot multiplier is great, but it is damn near impossible to line up a headshot on a moving target. If a target's wiggling at longish range, I'll miss him 3 out of 5 times aiming center mass. Aim for the head and miss 5 for 5. It is total a crapshoot and comes down to pure chance. So aim for the body, right? If it's a Scout you're shooting at, you hit him once then he begins to evade. With a little luck, you'll hit him again and get the kill before he reaches cover. But if it is anything else, you have to hit him again and again and often again and again. This isn't so bad a requirement with the Tac SR, but the Ishukone fires too dang slow and kicks too dang hard for a weapon which requires consecutive shot placement to kill. Not sure what to suggest. Less wiggling and inertia on directional change would help. Perhaps better zoom fidelity and an improved fire interval as well? Yeah, I like the TacSR better than the regular one, it is so much easier to use. (I run medium range mobile sniper.) TacSR for sure with a flux scanner to help find the redline snipers because they dont wiggle wiggle. noi¦Ü+ö+Æßû+(V)Faction

Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7270	Posted - 2015.03.05 06:12:00 - [30491] - Quote Echo narrative is up! And it looks great! Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1587	Posted - 2015.03.05 06:49:00 - [30492] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: LOL That's great! EDIT: How can I use this? I have no clue. I downloaded the latest update. The file is generally used by developers for stuff like websites. When I have a different tool that I've been working on, on and off, I plan on making a frontend similar to protofits just for my own purposes. If you are a little more tech savy you could use it in it's current state, but for now it's just a simple raw JSON server and command line tool. SDETool2 e: I also plan on using some of the stuff I can "dig" up to provide more numbers and adding a good amount of tools to allow people to compare fits. I might begin working on a couple prototypes of the fitting page. Our lives are nothing but a means to an end. AIV member. 21 day EVE trial.
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 2011	Posted - 2015.03.05 06:49:00 - [30493] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Echo narrative is up! And it looks great! Yay! Refresher on backpedal statistics: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sBL0QOLeQZub5qy51fT_hRGF8A5wE7a3gfwfrDywLZI/edit#gid=1212423222 Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Ghost Kaisar Negative-Feedback 10320	Posted - 2015.03.05 06:51:00 - [30494] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Tried running the Ishukone Sniper Rifle today ... The headshot multiplier is great, but it is damn near impossible to line up a headshot on a moving target. If a target's wiggling at longish range, I'll miss him 3 out of 5 times aiming center mass. Aim for the head and I'll miss 5 for 5. It seems to be a total crapshoot; headshots on a moving target are more about chance than skill or effort. So aim for the body, right? If it's a Scout you're shooting at, you hit him once then he begins to evade. With a little luck, you'll hit him again and get the kill before he reaches cover. But if it is anything else, you have to hit him again and again and often again and again. This isn't so bad a requirement with the Tac SR, but the Ishukone fires too dang slow and kicks too dang hard for a weapon which requires multiple, consecutive shots to kill. Not sure what to suggest. Adding inertia on directional change would help with target tracking and the "crapshoot" aspect. Perhaps better zoom fidelity, reduced sway, and/or an ever-so-slightly faster rate of fire? You need the snipers Mantra. Be patient. Wait for the kill to present itself. WAIT. They will eventually stop moving, or be wounded enough to finish off. One Shot. One Kill. Headshot or bodyshot, your goal is to eliminate in one shot. Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe. Nobody messes with my family
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7874	Posted - 2015.03.05 08:32:00 - [30495] - Quote Idea:Firewall for objectives and Installations Base idea, adding firewalls to friendly objectives/installations, therefore making them take longer to Hack. Ground rules, not to be placed on a turning objective, not to be so high it makes hacking impossible for the other party, can only be placed once by one merc, expires after Hack.(thinking a 30% absolute) Level 1: 5% decreased hacking speed. Level 3: 10% decreased hacking speed. Level 4: 15% decreased hacking speed. 2.5% decrease per level in systems hacking (or new skill?) With code breakers: Basic code breaker: +3% decreased hacking speed. Advanced: +5% decreased hacking speed. Prototype:+7% decreased hacking speed. 2% decrease per level. (odd wording but you get it.) Feedback? Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7874	Posted - 2015.03.05 08:35:00 - [30496] - Quote Will post to features, then trello, when acceptable numbers have been reached. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
Bayeth Mal Nos Nothi 2443	Posted - 2015.03.05 09:06:00 - [30497] - Quote Meh, I'm not really for the firewall. And if anything it's going to counter those of you suicide speed hacking in minja fits. Give the rest of us the extra few seconds to realise what you're doing and kill you... We'll bang, OK?
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7874	Posted - 2015.03.05 09:42:00 - [30498] - Quote Bayeth Mal wrote: Meh, I'm not really for the firewall. And if anything it's going to counter those of you suicide speed hacking in minja fits. Give the rest of us the extra few seconds to realise what you're doing and kill you... Also since counter hacking is already insanely long nobody is going to bother doing it when you have all these extra things slowing you down further. Hacking and objective ownership is fundamental to the game, it's more important than killing. Something like this could restrict hacking and counter hacking to really just Min Scouts. As I said the plan was to disallow use on a turning objective, so not an issue in this regard. The idea is to make units with codebreakers more important to the team, you don't HAVE to be a Minja to fit a codebreaker after all. Just like I don't need to use a plasma cannon on a galmando. As you said hacking and objective taking is an important part of our battlefield, so why do we omit having counters and roadblocks as we do today? Specialization my friend, something special to be good at, never a bad thing yes? Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
Jebus McKing Nos Nothi 1625	Posted - 2015.03.05 10:47:00 - [30499] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Echo narrative is up! And it looks great! I honestly think knives will be too good with backpedal speed being 85%. They already are very powerful in the right hands. Brace yourselves, tears are coming. Minja nerfs will be demanded! Jebus hates scans.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 6894	Posted - 2015.03.05 10:48:00 - [30500] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Echo narrative is up! And it looks great! I honestly think knives will be too good with backpedal speed being 85%. They already are very powerful in the right hands. Brace yourselves, tears are coming. Minja nerfs will be demanded! Got my bucket and knife Ready to go Edit: Do you think it will be that bad? MOAR Ladders

voidfaction Nos Nothi 1245	Posted - 2015.03.05 11:01:00 - [30501] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Jebus McKing wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Echo narrative is up! And it looks great! I honestly think knives will be too good with backpedal speed being 85%. They already are very powerful in the right hands. Brace yourselves, tears are coming. Minja nerfs will be demanded! Got my bucket and knife Ready to go Edit: Do you think it will be that bad? I think it is going to be some funny ****. Your going to log in thinking your playing ninja gaiden, lol noi¦Ü+ö+Æßû+(V)Faction
Haerr Nos Nothi 2438	Posted - 2015.03.05 11:36:00 - [30502] - Quote Suggestion for changes to Active Scanner mechanics: * Make Active Scanners have a cap similar to Cloak Fields * While active, active scanners increase its users Scan Profile by xx% * For each X.x sec an Active Scanner is scanning down a Suit it will be visible for Y.y sec after the scanning stops * Suits do not become visible on the tac-net until they have at least 2 secs of 'built up' scanned down state * Multiple Active Scanners do not add 'scanned down' state any quicker than 1 Active Scanner would * Dampeners reduce the Y.y sec after having been scanned down (for example Y.y0.75 for a complex dampener) Cloak Fields increase the rate of which the 'scanned down' state ticks down
Haerr Nos Nothi 2438	Posted - 2015.03.05 11:41:00 - [30503] - Quote In order to negate scannerinas the active scanners would only add 'scanned down' state for each full uninterrupted X.x sec that they have the scanee within their scan field. Edit: In order to prevent huge build ups of 'scanned down' state by multiple scanners there is a limit to Y.y secs of SD state being added each second.
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 2221	Posted - 2015.03.05 12:42:00 - [30504] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: J0LLY R0G3R wrote: He says, wtff he came at me with a stick! Whoa! When you say "he says", did you hear him or was this something he typed? Proxy chat. Haven't seen anyone type really and myself havnt typed anything except " loc" for my location No Safety Net. TLDR : XD
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7289	Posted - 2015.03.05 13:58:00 - [30505] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Echo narrative is up! And it looks great! Yay! Refresher on backpedal statistics: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sBL0QOLeQZub5qy51fT_hRGF8A5wE7a3gfwfrDywLZI/edit#gid=1212423222 * Added page "Echo Summary" Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7289	Posted - 2015.03.05 14:07:00 - [30506] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Jebus McKing wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Echo narrative is up! And it looks great! I honestly think knives will be too good with backpedal speed being 85%. They already are very powerful in the right hands. Brace yourselves, tears are coming. Minja nerfs will be demanded! Do you think it will be that bad? I've been "spun on" by Assaults I was hunting so many times since Falloff. If they're away from the herd, they're typically on the move. And if they're on the move, I'm on their radar for a long time trying to get into knife range from behind. So they spin, effectively run backwards and hipfire. 100% chance of success. Ideally, that chance of success will be more like a 50:50 toss up post Echo. Tough to predict though without seeing it in action. I think it'll be fine, but if it feels broken I'll be the first to admit it. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7290	Posted - 2015.03.05 14:10:00 - [30507] - Quote Haerr wrote: Suggestion for changes to Active Scanner mechanics: * Make Active Scanners have a cap similar to Cloak Fields * While active, active scanners increase its users Scan Profile by xx% * For each X.x sec an Active Scanner is scanning down a Suit it will be visible for Y.y sec after the scanning stops * Suits do not become visible on the tac-net until they have at least 2 secs of 'built up' scanned down state * Multiple Active Scanners do not add 'scanned down' state any quicker than 1 Active Scanner would * Dampeners reduce the Y.y sec after having been scanned down (for example Y.y0.75 for a complex dampener) Cloak Fields increase the rate of which the 'scanned down' state ticks down Haerr wrote: In order to negate scannerinas the active scanners would only add 'scanned down' state for each full uninterrupted X.x sec that they have the scanee within their scan field. Edit: In order to prevent huge build ups of 'scanned down' state by multiple scanners there is a limit to Y.y secs of SD state being added each second. This is awesome stuff, Haerr. Archived downstairs so it doesn't get lost. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7290	Posted - 2015.03.05 14:15:00 - [30508] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: You need the snipers Mantra. All good points. But it certainly wouldn't hurt to have a not-terrible rifle. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 8246	Posted - 2015.03.05 15:41:00 - [30509] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Jebus McKing wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Echo narrative is up! And it looks great! I honestly think knives will be too good with backpedal speed being 85%. They already are very powerful in the right hands. Brace yourselves, tears are coming. Minja nerfs will be demanded! Got my bucket and knife Ready to go Edit: Do you think it will be that bad? Rattati already came here and said he wouldn't be doing these changes if NKs weren't underperforming. If it becomes a problem, the backpedal speed can always be increased some until we find the sweet spot. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7291	Posted - 2015.03.05 15:44:00 - [30510] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Rattati already came here and said he wouldn't be doing these changes if NKs weren't underperforming. If it becomes a problem, the backpedal speed can always be increased some until we find the sweet spot. Another option would be to tweak Falloff to give units more advanced warning of an incoming flank attack. * Assuming that 85% backpedal becomes a problem. I don't think it likely will, but I also don't like disagreeing with Lord Jebus. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley



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