Not sure what you mean - where does the extra RT come from? If all that happens is that the attackers lose their 'dibs hour', it doesn't stop someone else (or even the same attacker) from launching an attack; it just gives the defender a chance at a very small window to send more clones to the district before an attack is set. It would only be one RT.

Here is just a thought I would like to throw out there. Is it possible to add more functions to the MCC's? My main idea is to charge for the purchase of mcc's but I'm sure there could be a lot more ideas to go with it other than just balancing issues.

[CCP]FoxFour i say let attackers steal % of clones from defenders When the attackers destory the defenders MCC(10/20% this could depend on type of building on district which attacker comes from )
This is lost on top of minimum clone amount of 150 for MCC destruction. so if the district is fully stocked with 450 clones there is possiblity to loose 210 clones minimum in a single match this might encourage defenders to attack more and not just sit in the mcc hiding and timing out the match, as the more clones they loose in a fight just means less clones the attackers will raid if they lose compared to current system defenders attacking till 150 mark then hiding so attackers only getting isk for the trouble

(obviously corps will work out a optimal amount to loose in one match so they have another 2 rounds before district loss)

also means attacking the mcc becomes a viable tactic of attack rather then currently where attackers want to take as long as possible to destroy mcc to get clone count down much as possible,

more tactical choices are good

if an attacker sends 200 clones (none lost on transport), and lose 100 in the battle and lose the battle itself through MCC destruction, does the 20% get taken away from the remaining 100 or only 50 because they have to lose 150 minimum? Number wise, would the defender get 10 or 20 clones in that case ?


When do the clones travel to the targeted district when declaring an attack ?
-Immediately after sending the notice
-When RT starts on battle day
-When fight starts


About how the "Dibs Hour" is set up

-The attack notice sent during the "Dibs Hour" is back dated to a moment before the RT so the attacker can attack on the next coming RT ?
-Dibs Hour starts right after the battle ends ?
-Can an attacker send another attack notice before the first fight happens or does he need to wait until Dibs Hour starts ?


Does the clone survival rate apply for the journey back after the battle is over?


About loot "being a percentage of the items lost in the battle such as vehicles, drop suits, and weapons. Including Aurum items."

-Does that include modules and equipment (so basically everything being used) or just vehicle hulls, suits and weapons -What is that percentage exactly ?


Planning on sending the mail tomorrow. And will obviously post every reply in that thread. Or FoxFour will do it himself.

About the status of the targeted district on battle day, what state is it in when:

-RT begins and before the battle starts
-During the battle
-During "Dibs Hour" and until attacker decides its next move

Looks good, though I think on this point:



You might want to ask directly if it's possible for a defender to send reinforcement clones from another district in the few minutes after an attack ends and before the enemy decides to attack again or not.

I'm pretty sure FoxFour already said the "dibs hour" starts when the battle starts.

So if the window is 12-13 and the attack happens at 12:15 the district would be in "under attack" status until the battle ends. The defenders cannot reinforce the district when under attack.

The attackers can schedule another attack for 1 hour starting from 12:15, so if they schedule one before the battle ends the defenders cannot reinforce their district.

They can only reinforce it if they win the battle and the attackers haven't scheduled another attack during the battle and aren't quick enough to do it after.

PC launch date 6th may, or after we get to experiment a bit with the new dropsuits and equipment?

I can't imagine PC launching the same day that everyone will be downloading the patch - that would just leave whoever can download first to get all the districts and people who have problems will get left behind with nothing.

The point here is to detect if there is a loop hole allowing for reinforcements being sent as i dont think it would be intended in any way. If status is "online" at any point, then you can send in reinforcement. Guess i could add something like that though.

About the status of the targeted district on battle day, what state is it in when:

-RT begins and before the battle starts
-During the battle
-During "Dibs Hour" and until attacker decides its next move

If the district is online at any of those moment, then nothing can stop defenders from sending clones to it from another district ?

Although online that only effects clone production which will only go offline if a defense is lost. The district will remain locked (un-reinforceable) until battle starts, will remain locked during battle and still further remain locked throughout "dibs hour".

If your attacker does not attack again then you will have an opportunity to reinforce from another district between the end of dibs hour and before any one else gives notice of an attack which will lock you again.

Dibs hour starts directly after battle has finished. If attacker does not utilize dibs hour, any attack by another corps made after dibs hour will of course have to wait almost 48 hours for that battle to commence so defenders will get a chance to reinforce or produce more clones in time for it

............I think........

The corporation in control of the district chooses the reinforcement time.

good point. they could wait the beginning of the "Sp Week" on the wednesday 8th.

It has been discussed a lot on IRC and like others there I agree that having both a reinforcement window and this long a notice is a little overkill.

I like the window a lot and this should stay. It ensures that fights will happen and that people won't just attack when the other team is asleep. So this should definitely stay.

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Like I said, the defending team already know when their reinforcement window is, so I don't see the need for a 24+ hour notice.

Cheers Caz. Can you ask CCP Fox Four to come back to this thread too; it misses him.

seriously? so the defenders choose when the aggressors are allowed to attack? seems rather unrealistic to me, I mean wouldn't an invasion be kept secret and be a surprise? the aggressors should definitely be the ones who pick the engagement time with a short warning and some form of extra punitive measure if they don't show up for the battle.

I'm unclear on one thing after reading the dev blog and the notes here. Is this only for low sec/FW or will null sec corps finally have a use for Dust mercs in their sov space?