You can't merge corps.

Corp A would have to produce enough clones to be able to attack/claim the fake-corp's districts. This would take days/weeks.

Thanks for the clarification. Is there a limit in place on how many clones the corporation can buy from day1? If there is, it makes sense to split corps into smaller ones to bypass this limit and fast expand.

You can't merge corps.

Corp A would have to produce enough clones to be able to attack/claim the fake-corp's districts. This would take days/weeks.

Doesn't matter, as a CEO/director you can choose to produce or not clones... And it would takes 2 days to split 20 corps to 10. Another 2 days from 10 to 5 ...

Well, one week and you get it.

Ok, we'll start with 250 districts.

Take the 12 first corps. All of them make 20 corps each with 5 members in it, and a 20M wallet.
20x12 = 240

The first day, the all district will be "own" by 12 corps.

400M ISK ? WTF already have them today, and build is expect after fanfest. We've got all the time to make more and more ISK. Just a little logistic management...

Mayeb I'm going too far, but if the defenser choose the time for attacks ... Well, hope you see what I'm pointing out...

You can only produce a max of 60 clones per district. You have to take at least 100 to attack another district. So, you'd only be able to take a new district every other day. In the meantime, you're being attacked by the other 50+ corps that want in on the action on your current districts. It won't be sustainable.

Absolutely, this is why there should not be a limit in place on how many clones a corporation can buy from day1 - otherwise it can be circumvented by making many small corps, which feels dull.

Day1) Alliance makes ton of small crops and flips a few regions.
Day2) Small corps move to bottleneck systems and merge by dropping slowly to 1 member corps that are left holding planets in deep region fortresses.
Day3) Merged big corps slowly take over the 1 member corp planets, while the small corps sell clones to make isk and ease the planet flip.
Day4) Alliance holds a few regions bastion by bottleneck systems and massive clone production from fastly flipped planets.

Bit excaggerated, but definitely better than having one corp slowly expand.

How will attacks during the Reinforcement timer work? Can someone set an attack to hit 1 minute before the timer ends? Or does the attack need to be completed at a certain time before the 1-hour period is up?

Hehe,
1) set attack period to hour before downtime
2) go flip a null cannon by attacking 2 minutes before DT
???
3) Profit

The big corp wouldn't just absorb all the small corps' clones. Big Corp would have to attack and kill all those small corps and produce enough clones to do so. As I said to Gloo Gloo, there's nothing stopping all the other smaller corps that aren't fake from jumping in and stealing from the fake-corps before your big corp can get there. And it will be dead obvious which corps are unable to defend themselves because their player counts will be tiny.

The big corp wouldn't just absorb all the small corps' clones. Big Corp would have to attack and kill all those small corps and produce enough clones to do so. As I said to Gloo Gloo, there's nothing stopping all the other smaller corps that aren't fake from jumping in and stealing from the fake-corps before your big corp can get there. And it will be dead obvious which corps are unable to defend themselves because their player counts will be tiny.

Sweet! Now we're lookign at interesting things here.

• PI bonus: scales with nullsec PI scaling, making low truesec planets coveted. This is the best proposed bonus, as it scales with truesec.
• POS fuel reduction: if linked with the clone reserve mod, makes otherwise worthless frontier systems easier to defend on dust side while making them easier to fuel on EVE side.
• POS manufacturing bonus: absolutely lovely link to EVE. This could be related to specific reactions by planet, in order to make some planets coveted reaction POS planets. E.g. the POS manufacturing bonus for a specific reaction could be 500% so, that it makes sense to control that particular planet in order to make that particular reaction.
• Moon mineral yield increaser could be added. This would scale with the moons, becoming very valuable. The percentage should be minimal though, prehaps 5%. This mechanic would also allow for more vivid moon mineral market, as the valuable ones would be pumped with yield increasing planets first, and the next bottleneck would follow afterwards.

Or need a delay when you leave a corp, join another, and be able to engage in PC.

Don't really know, but it looks like an exploit (not an issue, sorry ;))

Yep, it needs some looking at.

Solution1: let corps buy as many clones as they want and attack as many districts as they want in the first day, to put all on equal footing not requiring split corps. The quality over quantity issue is better addressed by making a few planets 100 times more valuable than others by Dust-EVE planet value mechanics, making them the elite playground.

There is, regional bottleneck systems and travel mechanics.
Also, which would you prefer?

10x 16man corp able to defend during one hour timeframe daily, flipping with 1000 initial clones from day one and starting with 10 districts

1x 160man corp flipping with 100 initial clones, starting with one district

^ The obvious winner is the 10 corps, because their initial pace is 10 times more and they can set defense to keep a few places daily with small numbers. The 10 corps will have 10 times the initial clone production as opposed to the one corp.

This is why the 100 clone cap needs to go IMHO. It makes no sense to have a big corp in the beginning, in relation to this. Corps can be merged by giving off the districts when there is spare time, in the meanwhile you are generating isk from them as you would on the big corp.

Not at this time no.

How will attacks during the Reinforcement timer work? Can someone set an attack to hit 1 minute before the timer ends? Or does the attack need to be completed at a certain time before the 1-hour period is up?

Okay, you're getting more realistic now - yes a 16 man corp may be able to adequately defend a planet every single day. However, that is still a separate corp. You couldn't count all the clones of 10 separate corps as one total for the big corp because you'd have 10 * 100 clones, not 1 * 1000. That's not a corporation, that's effectively an alliance.

In order to eventually become one big corp again, the main corp would have to attack 9 districts - in order to produce that many clones you're talking probably 18 days, depending on attrition for how spread out all those districts are. In that time you may also lose many clones from being attacked by other corps and your fake corps may also lose their districts too.

Your numbers are slowly wittling down and eventually you will see that what you are concerned about isn't realistic.

You are missing the obvious scenario of taking a 10x lead start in clone production by splitting into 10 corps, as opposed to slowly growing. This is a massive advantage, and there is no reason to start off 10x slower than you could by splitting. Corp mergers will happen by moving mercs between corps, selling clones off district and attacking with time frame play, giving easy access to the planets.

Now the thing gets viable by bottleneck systems allowing holding of these fortress regions from the external boundary. Give a month, and split corps will have taken a region, are sitting in bottlenecks making it impossible for external attack, and are slowly flipping over the planets inside deep region protection to form the megacorp.

Splitting is an artificial and utterly stupid mechanic, opposed to just doign the same thing with one corporation like intended. It still gives such a huge speed advantage to alliances it will be the way to expand, if this goes through as is. If you play a game of production and expansion, and have the choise to 10x your first weeks production speed and initial resources, you either take it or lose.

10x is of course just an arbitrary number.

You are missing the obvious scenario of taking a 10x lead start in clone production by splitting into 10 corps, as opposed to slowly growing. This is a massive advantage, and there is no reason to start off 10x slower than you could by splitting. Corp mergers will happen by moving mercs between corps, selling clones off district and attacking with time frame play, giving easy access to the planets.

Now the thing gets viable by bottleneck systems allowing holding of these fortress regions from the external boundary. Give a month, and split corps will have taken a region, are sitting in bottlenecks making it impossible for external attack, and are slowly flipping over the planets inside deep region protection to form the megacorp.

Splitting is an artificial and utterly stupid mechanic, opposed to just doign the same thing with one corporation like intended. It still gives such a huge speed advantage to alliances it will be the way to expand, if this goes through as is. If you play a game of production and expansion, and have the choise to 10x your first weeks production speed and initial resources, you either take it or lose.

10x is of course just an arbitrary number.

If you attack before the 1 hour Reinforcement Phase, the actual battle doesn't happen till 24 hours have passed and the next Reinforcement Phase happens. By attacking before the Reinforcement Phase you can battle the next day.

If you attack after the Reinforcement Phase the actual battle won't happen till 24 hours have passed and you come to the next Reinforcement Phase, so the actual battle could be nearly 2 days after the attack started.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Planetary_Conquest


Attack Scenario 01:

Reinforcement timer set to 12:00 - 13:00
Attacker launches an attack at 11:00 on Monday
Defending district set as "under attack"
Battle happens in the 12:00 - 13:00 window on Tuesday

Attack Scenario 02:

Reinforcement timer set to 12:00 - 13:00
Attacker launches an attack at 14:00 on Monday
Defending district set as "under attack"
Battle happens in the 12:00 - 13:00 window on Wednesday

The question, which is mine too, is if a corp can decide to have the attack actually start to take place 1 minute prior to that reinforcement timer ending (it's understood they must set the attack 24hours+ beforehand), or if the entire battle must be completed before that 1-hour window is up, meaning the latest you could safely set the beginning of the attack for would be with about 25 minutes left in the window.

Corp mergers won't work as you've suggested because even if the district is left empty, you still need an extra 100 clones to be able to claim it. You can't sell clones between corps, only back to Genolution, so your main corp would still be left with a slow initial clone production and it'd take around 18 days to get all of your corps 'merged' again.

If you use all your 10 mini-corps to take over an entire region of the map, that's great but it's still 10 corps in an effective alliance, not a megacorp. You won't be sharing your clones or your isk - eventually if you want to be a single corp again, you will have to go through and slowly attack each of those districts your mini-corps have taken.

As previously stated - in the meantime you also have to contend with other corps attacking you. Even if you manage to corner off a bottleneck region, someone could come into PC for the first time with their 100 clones and attack one of your districts wherever it may be.