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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
1582
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:00:00 -
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I think owning all, or most of the districts, should allow you to name the planet. Makes it a bit more of an achievement. And no one can re-name it until they take the majority of districts. Would be great fun. |
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jackbubu
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
29
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:00:00 -
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Kaeralli Sturmovos wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Jack Sharkey42 wrote:Two questions;
1. Will we be able to name our own districts or change their names or anything like that?
2. Will defender or attackers have the option to withdraw or surrender to avoid continued loss of clones in a fight? No and no although both of those are ideas we have in our head and are thinking about. please let us be able to name things and hopefully with some sort of item you have to buy to change it. it would make for a great insult for our enemies. First choice at hand are obviously Game of Thrones spoilers, see http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Pandemic_Legion ;) |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1682
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:01:00 -
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Team killing, here I come. |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
1582
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:01:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:Since it will take multiple attacks to take over a district, what's to stop a corporation from simply waiting until another corp almost depletes all of a defending corp's clones and then sweep in and get the final blow? Kill stealing to a whole new level.
For 1 hour after the battle starts ONLY the attacking corporation can launch another attack. This gives the attacking corporation time to see how the battle is going before committing to a follow up attack and removes that district sniping. |
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Val'herik Dorn
CrimeWave Syndicate
342
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:02:00 -
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OMNOMNOMNOM beaten by a dev so different post now...
When do we get more stuff... i like being able to own districts and i love the changes!
but but STUFF?!?! i need more STUFF!!!! |
BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
59
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:02:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:BursegSardaukar wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:XANDER KAG wrote:Controlling a single district will generate clones over time. If you end up producing more than you need, the excess clones can be sold for profit.
Corporations can expand into nearby unoccupied territory to claim it.
Does this mean that every corp gets one free district or do our CEO's pick a planet?I'm not asking for fairness but will small corps even have a real chance at controlling these districts for any amount of time? You pay 20 mil ISK to put your first deployment of clones down on to an empty district and then you own it. You can also deploy to an occupied district but you'll need to fight the owners for it. There should be plenty of room for everyone. What is the timetable for moving clones? Can I buy a million clones and conquer every open district immediately? Or attack every district at once? You can only buy clones from Genolution, they sell them in packs of 100, and they only sell them to people who do not own districts. They are terrible business men.
Lol, but can I buy 10,000 packs and plop people into every single district all at once? Is there any limit on how many districts I can attack?
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Gilbatron
Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda
81
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:02:00 -
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Quote:We consider these to be much more like POCO's, and actually they work almost exactly like them just with moving clones being the action that reinforces them. While watching people fail miserably at setting the stront timers on a POS is funny, it means that when the corporation attacking shows up there might not be anyone to defend the district. This is no fun.
From experience in EVE the POCO system works much better for providing people with entertainment instead of blue ball ops.
how about forcing the defender to set up a defence contract for the case where he can not fill all slots in the defending team ? randoms would have to fill the places |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
1582
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:03:00 -
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Val'herik Dorn wrote:OMNOMNOMNOM beaten by a dev so different post now...
When do we get more stuff... i like being able to own districts and i love the changes!
but but STUFF?!?! i need more STUFF!!!!
See my post above yours. :) |
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
368
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:03:00 -
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For a feature release lacking in new screen shots and full of tables its pretty kitten interesting. With only 250 districts open for grabs at the beginning there should be a mad scramble to find space for each corporation. I need time to digest all this information but the strategic element of moving clones around looks really interesting.
Is development far enough along to provide screen shots of what directors will see when planning for conquest? |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
1582
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:04:00 -
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BursegSardaukar wrote:Lol, but can I buy 10,000 packs and plop people into every single district all at once? Is there any limit on how many districts I can attack?
You buy them as you use them. So no stock pilling the 100 clone packages.
Once you own districts, you can attack as many districts as you have clones to attack. |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
1582
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:04:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:For a feature release lacking in new screen shots and full of tables its pretty kitten interesting. With only 250 districts open for grabs at the beginning there should be a mad scramble to find space for each corporation. I need time to digest all this information but the strategic element of moving clones around looks really interesting.
Is development far enough along to provide screen shots of what directors will see when planning for conquest?
We will have more of this kind of information at a latter time. |
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Val'herik Dorn
CrimeWave Syndicate
342
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:05:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Val'herik Dorn wrote:OMNOMNOMNOM beaten by a dev so different post now...
When do we get more stuff... i like being able to own districts and i love the changes!
but but STUFF?!?! i need more STUFF!!!! See my post above yours. :)
GAAH you beat my edit with your quote...
I am humbled master you forumfu is greater than my own. |
zyljan
The Vanguard II
3
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:06:00 -
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Right now (in EVE) I'm paying 14mil per one lost clone! How can I get in on the 'buy 100 clones for 20mil' deal?
Also, will the loot table consist of only BPCs even if the losing side fields BPOs? |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
357
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:06:00 -
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The Elephant in the room map question:-
Will this be released with a fully implimented - terrain unique to each planet - dynamic/procedurally generated maps
Or will it be ashland, line harvest, manus peak, skim junction, and the wards with the same old fishbowl terrain and randomly generated structues (what we sort of have now) with the SI as a central feature.
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Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1081
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:07:00 -
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Is there any way to transfer or give up district ownership outside of combat? When you take over a district can you automatically remove any structures built there? |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1216
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:08:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote: Can I have other corporations fight my battles? You can always pull additional players in to corporation battles using squads and if they win they will paid out of the biomass rewards. However our plan is to eventually open up a contract market place where other corporations can be hired to attack or defend districts on behalf of someone else.
How ******* stupid is this? Are you just too lazy to code a contract system?
You have hundreds of ******* people working on this game and you can't code a God Damned Contract System to take districts for other corps. We talked about this in irc last summer and this is the **** you come up with almost a year later.
I don't want to play ******* sim dust514 null. Come on man you guys are better then this. |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
1599
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:10:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:The Elephant in the room map question:-
Will this be released with a fully implimented - terrain unique to each planet - dynamic/procedurally generated maps
Or will it be ashland, line harvest, manus peak, skim junction, and the wards with the same old fishbowl terrain and randomly generated structues (what we sort of have now) with the SI as a central feature.
Not full unique, we don't have the art resources to make that many levels. We do go to some crazy crazy lengths though, see stars in EVE skybox actually lining up with where they will be. So while not ready to give away all the information, I am sure you can make some assumptions for now. :P |
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HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2314
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:10:00 -
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Say a corp owns 10 planets and staggers the attack times to defend them.
What are the chances of all 10 being attacked in a day? What happens to a district that is not attack each day? |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
1599
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:11:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Is there any way to transfer or give up district ownership outside of combat? When you take over a district can you automatically remove any structures built there?
You cannot remove the structures that are on a district, but any action that leaves you with 0 clones at a district will abandon that district. So selling all the clones or moving them all away will abandon it. |
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
87
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:12:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Chad2k95 wrote:Ok. So what happens when you implement this system what i am asking is do every corp start of with a district so they can attack other corps districts so that was my question. I'm just thinking like this '' you implement the system and i'm a CEO and i want to take this planet'' if i want the planet who will i need to fight for it if a corp starts out with no district's will i be doing PVE at the beginning of this system The districts will all start unowned. So whoever buys a package of clones from Genolution and places them on a district first gets that district.
Welcome to the biggest griefing tactic EVER in the history of New Eden!!
Fun times!! |
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Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
922
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:13:00 -
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Regarding transfer of ISK: I request that we have two wallets in Dust
1. Merc Wallet: corps can use funds from this wallet to purchase anything on the market (clones, MCC's, HAV, DS, LAV, dropsuits, guns, equipment, structure listed in the wiki, etc). Dust players can donate to this, and money can be given to players. Eve players cannot donate to this wallet.
2. Corp wallet: corps can use funds from this wallet to purchase only planetary structures, MCC's, and clones only; corps cannot purcahase HAV, LAV, DS, dropsuit, etc. Dust players can donate to this wallet, but cannot take funds from it except to make these purchases. In addiition, Eve players can donate ISK to this wallet, or take ISK out. Essentially, this gives corps with a precense in Eve the ability to more directly assist the troops on the ground even if they can't provide orbital support.
Imagine this: two corps - one with an industry presence in Eve and one with a PvP wing. The indy corp can't field OB support to their Dust merc, but they can help fortify the ground defenses in an indirect way (extra clones, for example); the PvP corp doesn't have the finances to help on with the extra clones, but can provide direct OB support during battle to balance out the wealth of the other corp.
Thoughts? |
Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1081
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:13:00 -
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What happens if all of the clones are moved out of a district? |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
264
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:13:00 -
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So right now, a maxed out district with a production facility will net 60 clones per reinforcement time that they will then sell to genolution for 100k each or 6mill isk. Otherwise a district will make 4 million isk each day.
So from clone profit alone it will take 25 days to pay off a normal infrastructure investment. It would take 17 days to pay off investments with a production facility.
Either way, it seems that district profits alone will not be able to sustain thinly stretched war mongerers this doesn't even include logistics costs.
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
1599
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:13:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Say a corp owns 10 planets and staggers the attack times to defend them.
What are the chances of all 10 being attacked in a day? What happens to a district that is not attack each day?
A planet is made up of many districts, 5 to 24. If a corporation owns 10 districts how many get attacked is entirely up to if others decide to attack them. To be honest I don't know how likely it will be for all 10 districts to be attacked every day, probably come down to how many other corporations hate/like you.
If a district is not attacked it sits there generating clones. You can use it to attack other districts. |
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BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
59
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:13:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote: Can I have other corporations fight my battles? You can always pull additional players in to corporation battles using squads and if they win they will paid out of the biomass rewards. However our plan is to eventually open up a contract market place where other corporations can be hired to attack or defend districts on behalf of someone else.
How ******* stupid is this? Are you just too lazy to code a contract system? You have hundreds of ******* people working on this game and you can't code a God Damned Contract System to take districts for other corps. We talked about this in irc last summer and this is the **** you come up with almost a year later. I don't want to play ******* sim dust514 null. Come on man you guys are better then this.
Whoa...
Perhaps they want to see how the core conquest system works before implementing the Merc contract system. If the system is broken as all hell at launch, they wasted the time making the merc system entirely. I'd rather they devote the guys who would be doing the contact system to making sure this conquest system is flawless before iterating on it.
As a parallel: Why introduce War Decs into EVE if the PVP mechanics aren't figured out yet? |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
369
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:14:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:BursegSardaukar wrote:Lol, but can I buy 10,000 packs and plop people into every single district all at once? Is there any limit on how many districts I can attack?
You buy them as you use them. So no stock pilling the 100 clone packages. Once you own districts, you can attack as many districts as you have clones to attack.
You can only buy clones from Genolution if you own no districts and you pick an empty district for delivery of the 100 clones? I'm assuming at that point you own that district and can't purchase any more clones and you are limited to the 100 clones for the first day. |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
1599
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:14:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:What happens if all of the clones are moved out of a district?
You abandon it and it becomes unowned. Anyone can take it at this point by moving clones to it. |
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jackbubu
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
29
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:14:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Say a corp owns 10 planets and staggers the attack times to defend them.
What are the chances of all 10 being attacked in a day? What happens to a district that is not attack each day?
if its not attacked for one day it can generate clones again, delaying your eventuall capture of it |
Jack Sharkey42
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
44
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:14:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Chad2k95 wrote:Ok. So what happens when you implement this system what i am asking is do every corp start of with a district so they can attack other corps districts so that was my question. I'm just thinking like this '' you implement the system and i'm a CEO and i want to take this planet'' if i want the planet who will i need to fight for it if a corp starts out with no district's will i be doing PVE at the beginning of this system The districts will all start unowned. So whoever buys a package of clones from Genolution and places them on a district first gets that district. Welcome to the biggest griefing tactic EVER in the history of New Eden!! Fun times!!
Nah, with an initial load out of 250 districts I think the griefing will be brief and limited. |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
1599
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:15:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:BursegSardaukar wrote:Lol, but can I buy 10,000 packs and plop people into every single district all at once? Is there any limit on how many districts I can attack?
You buy them as you use them. So no stock pilling the 100 clone packages. Once you own districts, you can attack as many districts as you have clones to attack. You can only buy clones from Genolution if you own no districts and you pick an empty district for delivery of the 100 clones? I'm assuming at that point you own that district and can't purchase any more clones and you are limited to the 100 clones for the first day.
Correct. Others can buy starter packs and attack your knew district though. This does mean though that due to the 24 hour minimum timer on attacks the first day won't see any battles. |
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