Bleh...a game of nothing but strafing... It looks horrible...Reminds me of how stupid fights looked in World of Warcraft. I don't care how its fixed but the direction to reduce it is getting better.

Here's a hint as to why you want to do this.
I'm not going to argue as to which type of FPS is better, but If you try and make a FPS that has a low TTK and slow clunky movement speed, where you cant really react much to incoming fire that hits you, and has vehicles... you get BF3. TRUST ME, you DON'T want to be BF3. You want to be different.

Because if you make the gameplay similar to BF3, ppl would rather just go and play BF3...because BF3 does it BETTER!

That's the reason so many FPS fail. Because they try and be a COD clone or BF clone... and you're not going to beat COD at its own game, or BF at its own game. You have to do your own thing to differentiate yourself. The FPS mechanics is one way. (and obviously the meta game in Dust, is an even bigger way)

Dust is not trying to be BF......

So for you being a bullet sponge (high TTK), having shield and HP that re-gen make a FPS hard.

A FPS that protects you isn't hard: it's easy!
When a FPS in unforgiving, when few deciseconds of distraction cost you death, when few bullets can kill you it's hard not when it covers you ass with all sort of health regenerative nonsense and armors/shields that can absorb bullets like a sponge.

I have time to react/think in Halo or Dust when I am shot at: how can that be harder compered to a FPS that demands super fast reaction or you die.
In low TTK FPS you don't have the luxury of thinking about "where to side side strafe" or "to switch to the secondary weapon" after 3 bullets hit your chest or your head.
Requiring super fast reflexes are the elements that made a fps hard FPS not side strafing or letting shields delay death so that I can think about what I have to do!

The quality of a soldier in rel life is measured on how quickly he ca react BEFORE he gets 3 bullets his his chest not AFTER he got them.
FPS that aimed to deliver "Real life" experience are hard, not FPS where you can rocketjump of shields absorb bullets.

Don't mistake Hard to kill for "hard".
Dark Souls is a hard VG not because it takes a lot of time to kill a boss, but because it take little time to be killed.

Dust 514, on the FPS side, doesn't offer anything that PlanetSide din't do already in 9 years ago or BF 2142.
What Dust 514 is offering is access to the EVE universe.

Now BF 3 is a military FPS so going down easy it's essentially intended.
Also BF is not easy on vehicles, objectively not as much as Dust 514; in Dust 514 vehicles don't have weak spots, can self repair, have shields shields + you get SP that improve vehicles...it's really, really giving you a lot of help.
Maybe BF for you it's frustrating, or simply you don't like that kind of FPS but it's supposed to be easier to die there because it's a military FPS.

COD despite the low TTK is also cheapened by: lack of recoil, killstreaks, killcam, autoaim, minimap, etc...
Dust actually takes lot from COD: mini map, perma spotting, killstreaks (war points), perks (SP)

Now, I never said I don't accept Dust 514 TTK.
I favor low TTK FPS but I enjoy perfectly high TTK shooters...simply I don't think it' right to call Dust a very skill demanding FPS, not wit so many arcade FPS mechanics.

Dust is not trying to be BF......

BF3 maybe military intended but tbh its far from it gameplay wise and only looks like one

BF3 vehicles can self repair but tbh once it gets hit its now useless and 1 engy can take out 3 tanks easily or disable them at least, DUST on the otherhand have made them damn useful atm and strong but because its beta we havnt got full access to the AV weapons and lack of grouping makes the problem worse


Alot of FPS have mini maps in general so you cant say DUST takes that from COD it takes it from the genre, perma spotting also in BF3 spam select and with war points we dont know what effect that will have yet

Perks wise its not a perk but more of a bonus for learning a skill,its not like BF3 where you can basically equip it and change it and plus its with you forever and each match, its how EVE is so they have carried it into DUST

DUST may become more skill demanding as more is added, right now its bare bones kinda stuff

I like what they did with most of the vehicles after the patching. The vehicles became what they SHOULD be in a FPS... SUPPORT! Prior to patch, one good tank driver could DOMINATE a match, even if there were several decent engis trying to take him out. After patch, they were still relatively strong, but could not just bull their way through a match if the opposing team had a couple good engis. Making them a good support piece in a match, but not the OP game piece they were at BF's launch.

They were far from OP to begin with but the jav didnt work at all so it was RPG or nothing really but then the jav got a buff and tanks got a nerf

All it needed was for the jav to work and it would have been fine tbh, the tanks had a weak spot to begin with but now they are useless

The strafing and jumping to dodge "bullets" in Dust 514 is almost joke like and very much a reason i want it eliminated.
I'm not looking for some actiony arcade like shooter, if i'm dumpin a clip at a opponent and he/she/it has no cover them F em, they got caught out in the open and got killed.
The scout types that move so fast they can run through a barrage of 3 opponents shooting at them and still not die is a bad idea to leave in the game.
I'm not going to go on as i'll wait for the new build but damn, just damn.

BF competitive lol more like pub stackers which just kick you half the time

1 jav can knock it to 50% and in some cases instant disable, plus its lazer guided and you can do it from a fair distance so yea 1 engy can easily **** a tank

The tanks of today in BF are nothing compared to the tanks from before

You're complaining about the Jav doing what it's supposed to do? It still takes two shots from a jav to destroy it by then the driver or gunner can get out and repair it lets not forget the javs loooong reload speed. Why do you think most engineers prefer the rpg's to the jav. it's easier and takes 3 shoots, reloads faster than the jav and if you get behind them you can completely take them out!

lol clearly doesnt play competitive if he thinks tanks are useless in BF
GOOD tankers not PUB tankers still dominate with a proper gunner

1 engy will NEVER take out a GOOD tanker if he does then said tanker in lolBF is NOT good and infact rather terrible

maybe DUST tanks should have a weak spot tbh

All vehicles in this game should function similar to battlefield in the sense that once it reaches a certain damage threshold it becomes disable/immobile. It would add some skill to vehicle based gameplay rather than tanking damage and throwing on remote reps when things get tough.

You REALLY want to go down this road with me Mike Gunnzito? Hmmm?
Let us pretend your not just arguing debate club tactics to simply do so.

IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW FAST THE GUY WAS/IS! But you already knew that, right?
It may have been lag + no hit detection, But that really isn't the point either, and you already knew that to huh.
And yes even though it's in the future blah blah blah etc cliche, i DO expect the GAME MECHASNICS to have a semblance of reality.

But like i said, i'll just wait until the new build drops before i start digging in at the game.

wow, you don't get. You want it gone not because its not realistic, (no part of this game is realistic, lol @ you using the "realistic argument) but because you don't like it. Like others have said, HTFU.
This game mechanic is CRUCIAL as a balancing mechanism for the increased HP/dmg output/etc that vets have. It'll be the only thing giving newbies a fighting chance in this game. (although they'll still be at a disadvantage)

+1 Crimson. Truth is, slower movement speed will break this game, because it'll crush the newer players, once Dust is 3-6months in.

People want this to play like a SOCOM trailer which is the furthest thing from the way socom is really played.

The strafing and jumping to dodge "bullets" in Dust 514 is almost joke like and very much a reason i want it eliminated.
I'm not looking for some actiony arcade like shooter, if i'm dumpin a clip at a opponent and he/she/it has no cover them F em, they got caught out in the open and got killed.
The scout types that move so fast they can run through a barrage of 3 opponents shooting at them and still not die is a bad idea to leave in the game.
I'm not going to go on as i'll wait for the new build but damn, just damn.

The people that want lower strafe speeds also are trying to cater to their KDR. They can't aim at fast moving targets so they cry about strafe speeds until it gets nerfed. Buy some gun game with all that AUR.

Nope, I don't give a **** about my KDR. I seriously don't even look at it. I never even go to the second screen that shows it. All that matters is whether my team won or not. I usually play logistics, so I get plenty of points for resupply and repair and hacking and all that, but not that many kills.

The game should be at least 75% about making deliberate tactical decisions not "my twitch reflexes are faster than yours". There are tons of twitch shooters out there. Go play one of them where people care about your KDR and will be impressed (presumably) by your e-peen instead of whining about how this game isn't what you want in an FPS.

There's a difference between "using tactics in a FPS" and "playing a tactical FPS". Maybe "realism FPS" is a better term.

They play very differently. I liked action-FPSes when I was a teenager and I played Quake and whatnot all the time. They were super fast-paced and lots of fun. Later I got bored of them and now I prefer "tactical" or "realism" FPSes.

Having dumbed-down action-FPS mechanics in DUST doesn't seem like a good fit to me. It doesn't fit the setting or the feel of EVE. The gameplay should be different from EVE obviously, but the feel, depth, and at least some of the complexity should carry over.