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Fatmanpro
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:22:00 -
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Lilianna Sentinel wrote:Freyar Tarkin wrote:Look out guys, we've got a badass over hea.
Bottom line is, the PS3 is capable of using the keyboard and mouse. Just because people like the loud one in here isn't used to using them, doesn't mean it shouldn't be implemented. Being able to choose the best input for whatever your playing should have been implemented YEARS ago. I really think that, if we want to continue focusing on shooters then it is only to the industry's benefit that we start pushing mouse and keyboard. Then we can start coming up with mice and keyboards that work well on the couch.
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Fatmanpro
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:29:00 -
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Mr514 wrote:Phantomnom wrote:Mr514 wrote:To make a point here aswell. If you need to turn 180 around to shoot someone that just started to shoot you.. Well, your DEAD as you just turn around and saw what happen.. IF your lucky.. With keyboard and mouse, things like that can be controll so fast that you are able to turn around, and might even kill that target before you die. But I can do that with a controller, I just have to turn. KB/M removes everything like that from movement to aiming, it's instantaneous. KB/M may be better statistically for shooters, but it's going to create a void between the controller users and KB/M users. That's inherent imbalance. That kills games. bullshitt
Why dont all PS3 FPS games have full KB+M support ??
Oh yea its a terribl idea that will unbalance your game and people wont play it
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Fatmanpro
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:30:00 -
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Mr514 wrote:Well, anyhow, i made my point, CCP deside if they are going to lose tons of players, gain more or just jurk around and dont dear to do anything. On the event on iceland they told Keyboard and mouse whas going to be an option. If that isnt the case anymore, i'm selling my PS3. Something i shoud have done ages ago, but kept it as i whas waiting for this game. Pc is and have always been the ultimate gaming machine, and think its a error that they aint making this game for PC, as Eve Online is a PC game, and Dust built on the same concept.
Goodbye
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Fatmanpro
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:41:00 -
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Lilianna Sentinel wrote:Fatmanpro wrote:Mr514 wrote:Well, anyhow, i made my point, CCP deside if they are going to lose tons of players, gain more or just jurk around and dont dear to do anything. On the event on iceland they told Keyboard and mouse whas going to be an option. If that isnt the case anymore, i'm selling my PS3. Something i shoud have done ages ago, but kept it as i whas waiting for this game. Pc is and have always been the ultimate gaming machine, and think its a error that they aint making this game for PC, as Eve Online is a PC game, and Dust built on the same concept. Goodbye
You wont be missed You consistently argue that this change will chase away players. Yet that's what you're doing. Do you have some sort of preference for console gamers over PC gamers? There are many players here that are actually attracted to Dust 514 because of KBM. Let me ask you this: Are you absolutely certain that the amount of console players who will get indignant over adding KBM will outnumber the players who came to Dust 514 because of KBM support?
Clearly there are more PC players who play with KB+M on PS3
Than there are PS3 players who play with a controller
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Fatmanpro
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:56:00 -
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Benjamin Hellios wrote:Enough with the kb/m thread spam already! If this game was also released on pc, then I'd say yes to balance it out but it's a ps3 exclusive so there is no good reason to do it other than the fact that some people don't know how to use a controller properly. This game was made for PS3 players who have no problem using a controller for FPS, not to atract whiny pc players who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn without kb/m. If any of you decide to get rid of your ps3 because of this, good riddance, the rest of us are doing just fine.
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Fatmanpro
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Posted - 2012.07.01 22:08:00 -
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Mr514 wrote:Lavender Fields wrote:Well, CCP will lose a lot of its credibility if it goes back on its promise to include KB&M support.
We wouldn't be having this thread if they hadn't said they would.
But it's the fact that they DID say they were and that they have YET to do it is why so many of us are flustered. I know there are many people out there who bought Playstation 3 systems based primarily on this promise.
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Edit: This post is for you folks who think we are randomly demanding KB&M support. (We're not.) Cant be better written. :) Perfect points, and yes i have also friends that have got themselfe a PS3 and keyboard and mouse just as the rason CCP told that it will have support. But havent seen any more info on it. And today i finnaly tested the game, and there isnt any support yet. :(
CCP also said they wanted to appeal to a new audience
Pandering to there old one is the worse mistake they could make
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Fatmanpro
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Posted - 2012.07.01 22:16:00 -
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Lavender Fields wrote:Phantomnom wrote:
And people wonder why PC gamers are seen as monstrously arrogant. Nobody owes you anything here, if it's tested and works, fine, have it. If it's tested and doesn't, remove it. PS3's are shipped with Controllers because they are the de facto playing field. Nobody wants to lessen their chances in this game just because you stamped your feet hard enough.
But CCP said they would. They should hold up to their words. If not, then how can you trust them with what they say? From CCP Jian, on Twitter: "@EONmagazine and those asking for an "official statement": DUST 514 *will* support keyboard and mouse on PS3"
Entitled PC gamer
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Fatmanpro
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Posted - 2012.07.01 22:43:00 -
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Lilianna Sentinel wrote:Freyar Tarkin wrote:I wonder how many of these people here actually play any PC titles, let alone shooters. I wonder if they're actually listening to themselves. This is a change that benefits the console gamer. Mouse and keyboard doesn't have to be exclusive to PC gaming. They're going to be given the chance to experience the ergonomic, sharp, smooth and intuitive controls of PC FPS and they're whining about it.
Oh mighty PC super race enlighten us |
Fatmanpro
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Posted - 2012.07.01 22:52:00 -
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Freyar Tarkin wrote:The RTS market is non-existent for the PS3. Why's that? :P
True and strangely console FPS that use the apparently terrible control method of Game pads
Sell rather well without mouse support |
Fatmanpro
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Posted - 2012.07.01 23:07:00 -
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Freyar Tarkin wrote:Fatmanpro wrote:Freyar Tarkin wrote:The RTS market is non-existent for the PS3. Why's that? :P True and strangely console FPS that use the apparently terrible control method of Game pads
Sell rather well without mouse support Because people don't know any better, and for the most part people complain about the cost of running and maintaining a PC. Vetis Cato wrote:so do pc players have aim assists. and no its really not that easy to hit people by missing them. hit boxes arnt that bigger then pc (and some games the same). i play both for different reasons. pc my accuracy rating in most games is around the 40% mark, 22% average for console. iv played both for a very very long time. and consider my self a above average player. pc is point and click, analoge requires more dexterity. Players on PC (for games that y'know.. aren't given the one-size-fits-all treatment a-la Activision) don't get aim assist. They don't. Hitting a target on PC, is hitting a target. Those hitboxes are proper, and the mouse input is left alone. "Analogue requires more dexterity". I'd argue against that considering more keys, more fine movements on the keyboard. Either way, this is a pretty stupid argument. Mice are better for shooters, everyone in here has pretty much agreed, therefore mice should be an option offered, despite people's fears of it being the "dominating input".
Yea stupid console kids
They should listen to the PC master race
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Fatmanpro
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Posted - 2012.07.02 01:13:00 -
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Hellaciouss Deeds wrote:A keyboard + mouse is cheaper then a dualshock controller.
Just sayin.
CCP supposedly have plans to bring the game to the PC after the 1-year exclusivity agreement, so they will need good kb/m support anyway.
Sorry console kiddies, but it's time to realize that computers are replacing the crappy, over priced, under achieving garbage known as consoles. Consoles just aren't what they used to be.
Yea because PC shooter market is bigger than console shooter market
Why dont you wait till PC release instead of unbalancing the console version with KB+M then |
Fatmanpro
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Posted - 2012.07.02 01:32:00 -
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Freyar Tarkin wrote:Vetis Cato wrote:if the racing game is being "sold" to racing wheel users. but as you said earlier racing and fps are different interms of the input. racing wheel users dont have a noticable advantage over keyboard users. its more about the experience. Racing wheel users don't have a noti-- are you kidding me? That might be true for kart style racing but for others analogue input is a must. A steering wheel (hell, a gamepad) has a HUGE advantage versus a keyboard, even for racing games on the PC. End result, people are expected to adapt to either get a controller or a steering wheel. It should be no different here. OT: Went and had food.. Mmm food. Quote:Yea because PC shooter market is bigger than console shooter market Roll
Why dont you wait till PC release instead of unbalancing the console version with KB+M then Yeah 'cause modern day developers make shooters that are worthwhile on the PC these days. Naw, instead they take the console experience and just slap it on the PC with limited FoV, lackluster controls, and terrible textures.
COD on PC is bad because the market is so small compared to console its not worth there time |
Fatmanpro
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Posted - 2012.07.02 01:41:00 -
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lol now post console COD sales |
Fatmanpro
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Posted - 2012.07.05 14:50:00 -
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Good luck balancing KB+M with game pads CCP
Get it wrong and you had better hurry with the PC version because the PS3 one will fail hard |
Fatmanpro
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Posted - 2012.07.05 14:59:00 -
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Darkz azurr wrote:draw a perfect circle with a mouse in game ccp , then do it with a pad. feel the difference. plz just try it ps3 community just want it ballanced with a pad, as you can see ^
Sad thing is they will probably add even more aim assist for game pad users
And Dust already has way to much of that |
Fatmanpro
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Posted - 2012.07.05 16:10:00 -
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Regis Mark V wrote:carl von oppenheimer wrote:Fatmanpro wrote:Darkz azurr wrote:draw a perfect circle with a mouse in game ccp , then do it with a pad. feel the difference. plz just try it ps3 community just want it ballanced with a pad, as you can see ^ Sad thing is they will probably add even more aim assist for game pad users
And Dust already has way to much of that Your so called aim assist has been noted as a bug by CCP in #IRC. So get it in to your head already people; there is no aim assist in this game. Your wrong he stated that the aim assist is bugged. So the problem is that we don't want aim assist but must have it because KB/M support is coming. If it's not balanced a game that I've been following since 2010 will fail. If KB/M screws up the one FPS that I had hope for I quit FPS gaming I refuse to play COD and DICE/EA are greedy bastards.
Yea The Regis is not the only one feeling like that
Either they balance it with aim assist and make the game trash
Or they dont balance it at all and make the game trash |
Fatmanpro
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Posted - 2012.07.05 20:04:00 -
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Lilianna Sentinel wrote:Regis Mark V wrote:
So your saying we should learn to use KB/M to play Dust 514? The game was designed for a console not PC they might as well just port it to PC then because this game wont last very long if KB/M doesn't have limitations.
Supposedly it IS getting ported to PC in a year. Since we're all in the same universe in Dust 514, you'll have to be facing PC users eventually. And it'll do just fine on consoles if it has mouse and keyboard unhindered.
lol its F2P so they need a lot of people to keep playing it for a while
Just throw in KB+M and this wont happen |
Fatmanpro
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Posted - 2012.07.05 20:06:00 -
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Lilianna Sentinel wrote:Fatmanpro wrote:
lol its F2P so they need a lot of people to keep playing it for a while
Just throw in KB+M and this wont happen
That's quite a claim, can you back it up with numbers?
Common sense
Apparently you lack it
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Fatmanpro
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Posted - 2012.07.05 20:31:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Fatmanpro wrote:Lilianna Sentinel wrote:Fatmanpro wrote:
lol its F2P so they need a lot of people to keep playing it for a while
Just throw in KB+M and this wont happen
That's quite a claim, can you back it up with numbers? Common sense
Apparently you lack it
Apparently YOU lack it, actually. The number of PS3 owners with PCs that just happen to have a compatible mouse and keyboard attached is probably larger than you appreciate. And the number of PS3 players willing to spend $20 or so on cheap peripherals so they can become more competitive in their otherwise-free FPS is also probably higher than you think. As for myself, I have an old PC with USB KB+M, but I don't intend to use them, and will be disappointed if CCP can't balance the two control schemes. It's been done before, so I don't see a reason why it can't happen here. As long as the controller works competently, I intend to have fun and not care as much about competition.
The only thing that matters is how many people are willing to put down the controller and plug in the KB+M |
Fatmanpro
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Posted - 2012.07.08 18:24:00 -
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Azura dark wrote:Templar Two protip, pc gamers always get what they want.
They want lots of AAA games to be console exclusive
And bad ports of the ones they get ?? |
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Fatmanpro
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Posted - 2012.07.13 16:43:00 -
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Templar Two wrote:^^^ There's a reason if nobody ever did it again over 5 years and dozens of FPS.
Because console players don't like it
People who make/sell console games don't want to upset console gamers
Console gamers wont buy a game that upsets them
People who make/sell console games want to make money |
Fatmanpro
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Posted - 2012.07.13 19:18:00 -
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Lilianna Sentinel wrote:Templar Two wrote:^^^ There's a reason if nobody ever did it again over 5 years and dozens of FPS. Because the industry is notably stagnating and refuses to move past Call of Duty?
Yes because COD predates KB+M |
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