I do have mouse and keyboard for my PS3 but I don't want to use it because in prevents me from lying in my couch comfortably while playing. If they put in kb/m, I'll be forced to use it if I want to be able to compete with other kb/m users and then I'll either have to sit up or lie in an awkward position which is unacceptable because I'm too high for this shite!

This isn't like other games - Evetard

So does the inability to use a controller, I assume you have opposable thumbs, use them.

Fits in my hand, easy to reach buttons, don't have to set it on a desk, can sit comfortly on my couch, I can easily move it, requires no cord or plug in,.

Keyboard doesn't fit in my hand, hard mousepad+mouse+keyboard sitting on the couch sounds awful please don't say that again I do not want to shuffling around with all this crap, oh please help me 153 buttons? I don't want to have to be jumping around to find buttons while I'm in a fight.

Wireless ok but that means I have to go out and spend more money on a mouse and keyboard when I already have a ps3 controller. Ps3 players won't want to spend more money on accesories, of course some will but that limits the people interested even more.

First, I heard those don't work very well. But that's hearsay..

Ok I get that, but you can do all those things with a controller, except aiming might be a bit slower. So if they do get kb/m, which I think they will tbh, they should match the turning speed of the mouse to that of the controller. I'm sure you'll hate that idea because it's considered 'dumbing down' but otherwise you're putting controller users at a disadvantage and at the end of the day it's a console game so there'll always be people using controllers, wether you like it or not.

They suck so I could care less. I don't use them and I don't want to buy one.

No one says that controller could beat kb/m, that's actually the whole point that kb/m users would dominate controller users which seems odd on a console system.

Would you like if you played pc, loved the controls, loved the system, then the next biggest game comes out and says they are adding gamepad support. But this gamepad is 100xs better and only a small group of players from a different game system use it. It costs 100$ and you don't like the controls or anything from it.

You will probably reply with yeah I'd adapt. Then why are you playing pc and not that game system?

I won't argue this issue anymore since you pc users are set on pc. Too bad for you guys this game is on ps3

thats the point why controller crusaders as you put it are protesting against kb/m because they have superiority. its un balanced. put it this way.

if ccp were to release a new game on PC but gave left handed players an unfair advantage. what do you think would happen? exactly the same as releasing kb/m support as is on console. some would learn to play left handed, others would just fight on right handed. but most pc players would be in uproar, and refuse to play. not giving it the player base it deserves and thus eventually dieing. as long as its balanced i dont mind.

i really really wish ccp could give us some offical word as to whats going on with it to stop these endless threads going on about it. starting to get boring.

That really depends: Is it actually better better than mouse and keyboard, as in more functional and precise, or is it artificially better by adding loads of aim assist and sucking all the skill out of the game?

If the former, I wouldn't mind much.

Also, mouse and keyboard doesn't cost 100 dollars so it isn't comparable.

See, the thing about PC gamers is that we don't mind change if it makes the game better. We're used to adapting to new things because one of the main selling points of the PC is that it is customizable to your heart's content.

I wonder if they're actually listening to themselves.

This is a change that benefits the console gamer. Mouse and keyboard doesn't have to be exclusive to PC gaming. They're going to be given the chance to experience the ergonomic, sharp, smooth and intuitive controls of PC FPS and they're whining about it.

basically what people are saying is kb/m players have a better accuracy in fps because its points and click. analoge stick users have to have more dexterity to have a good shot.

so do pc players have aim assists. and no its really not that easy to hit people by missing them. hit boxes arnt that bigger then pc (and some games the same). i play both for different reasons. pc my accuracy rating in most games is around the 40% mark, 22% average for console. iv played both for a very very long time. and consider my self a above average player. pc is point and click, analoge requires more dexterity.

that is exactly the point as to why the console players are getting irrate about it. because its better. now dust are introducing kb/m on to a console system meaning there putting a system in place that will effectly give an unfair advntage over analoge players.

please dont give me the adaopt or die thoery. ccp didnt have to make this on console. so they have to take care of the market they are putting the game too

and as for the analoge im mostly refuring to the targetting sytem. not over all movement.

and yes i agree mouse is suprior and that is why consolers are annoyed. they dont have anything against the use of the mouse as long as its balanced so them using there controllers isnt going to be a hinderance. its simple unfair to put a game on console, then shaft console players using analoge sticks. and yes you can go into the point of adapt or die, what if ccp released a new game on pc and said we will be nerfing kb/m users and giving pad users an unfair advantage. would that be fair?

so if it wernt for sony, and its millions of analoge stick users dust would never of happened under any circumstance ever? or no one would of funded it on pc at all?

so your saying the scenerio wouldnt work because all pc players use kb/m. all consoles users analoge sticks to the same regard.

and again the point of the situation wasnt to theorise the likly hood. it was to question how would you feel if they did, as that is what you are asking console players to accept. some would except it. most would be seriously pissed off rather then feel its a test to there skill. that is how console players feel. otherwise its double standards.

and yes im nearly 30 so i know what a d-pad was. and using analoge sticks present a new range of games and advantages. and they tried to introduce k/b into consoles but they just didnt sell. pads are simple. space effecient. alot easy to use anywhere. there are advantages.

as i say im not objecting to there use at all. far from it. but they have to be balanced, all inputs have to be on a level playing field. and fact is the mouse gives it an unfair advantage. its made on a console, love it or loathe it but there it is. so they have to consider there primary market. which is stick users.

this game has been funded to make someone money, wether it is sony by selling units. or ccp though aurum. if they dont consider the primary market the game will fail. and that means it will get shut down.

if the racing game is being "sold" to racing wheel users. but as you said earlier racing and fps are different interms of the input. racing wheel users dont have a noticable advantage over keyboard users. its more about the experience.

Yea because PC shooter market is bigger than console shooter market Roll

Why dont you wait till PC release instead of unbalancing the console version with KB+M then

Thread still going strong, baws! Also the condescension towards consoleplayers or 'console kiddies' on a forum for a console exclusive is puzzling.

i wonder if anyone of you have ever seen anyone asking for controller support for a FPS game on the PC

HOW MANY OF THESE THREADS MUST THERE BE?!

Yes for vehicle control, not shooting. I had a 360 controller hooked up to my PC just for flying in bf3.

why do pc users have to act all high and mighty, and why do console users have to throw there doll out the pram?

no one and i mean NO ONE can suggest that they shouldnt have kb/m support. as long as its balanced and fair. that is the FPS mantra. fairness and a level playing field so that we can all test our skill at shooting. sure dust adds a new twist in it also shows our skill at fittings the right kit, and picking the skills. but its all about show casing abilitys. and to do that you have to have a level field.

PC guys and gals, please understand consolers just want it to be fair.

Consolers please understand that pc users were promised a medium.

Your argument is flawed. Sure there are certain skills that give advantages, but those advantages/skills are available to anybody with the inclination to build their character in any said appropriate manner. All games are fair provided that the same opportunities are provided to everyone. The current item-mall structure for example, would have great potential to unbalance the game. Because of the way CCP have designed it, it has not, which reflects quite aptly CCPs desire for a fair game.

Personally, I am against having KB/M introduced. It would be much simpler to have one platform for control and not worry about having to buy more hardware to be competitive in a console game.
Having said that I see no problem with it IF it can be made so that there is no advantage, other than a users personal preference.

Yeah, I bet it is just unfinished.

But the big problem here is that Move is expensive.

Maybe it is the fact that mouse and keyboard is so accessible and easy to find for an affordable price that people hate. Because then nearly everyone will use it.