They have already backed out. They just don't want to admit it so they can keep the player base that they have for testing. I mean look at it, they had months to implement it, the engine it's built on HAS IT BY DEFAULT, and they even added playstation move into the controller options. It's quite obvious they have little interest in actually putting in KB/M, and the devs have never actually responded to someone that pointed this out. The few times the devs ever mentioned anything was a few weeks ago when enough people bitched that they said "soon *tm"

Best suck it up and get training those thumbs because this IS a PS3 first and foremost. You can cry all you want about how it SHOULD have been PC based, but it's not and thats that. If the option for K/M is introduced, then cool, i hope that works well for you.. but There is no way hundreds of players are going to quit this game solely because they have to use an 'inferior' control method.

What???!!!... Are you drunk or something? MORE skills to use a keybard and mouse then a controller???!! Wow, what planer "are" you from?

Well, you made my day today. I must say, you clearly dont know what you are talking about.

Look out guys, we've got a badass over hea.

Bottom line is, the PS3 is capable of using the keyboard and mouse. Just because people like the loud one in here isn't used to using them, doesn't mean it shouldn't be implemented. Being able to choose the best input for whatever your playing should have been implemented YEARS ago.

So many uncoordinated kids crying that they might need to use a controller.

@ Lilianna Sentinel, all you do is whine and complain

Is this how all eve players behave????????

lmao what do you not understand? I play ps3 because I like those controls. PS3 players don't want PC controls or they would play PC!

I don't care how clunky they are in comparison I like ps3 controls.

Enough with the kb/m thread spam already! If this game wasalso released on pc, then I'd say yes to balance it out but it's a ps3 exclusive so there is no good reason to do it other than the fact that some people don't know how to use a controller properly. This game was made for PS3 players who have no problem using a controller for FPS, not to atract whiny pc players who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn without kb/m. If any of you decide to get rid of your ps3 because of this, good riddance, the rest of us are doing just fine.

EVE players are so awful I wish they stayed on their PC all day instead of trying to turn a PS3 game into a PC game.

It's not an upgrade, it's a downgrade since I prefer (and most ps3 players) a ps3 controller.

It is better for everyone? No it is better for PC players, who is this game trying to appeal to, pc or ps3 players?

I don't like using a keyboard or mouse on a game, still sucks. Aim assist will only be increased if KB+M are added which is another reason I dislike the idea. So in fact I aim and prefer no aim assist but thanks for your uneducated post again.

Still not better.

This isn't like other games - Evetard

You can buy adapters like eagle eye and others, who convert keyboard and mouse movements into controller commands. With them Dust feels like an PC-Shooter and yes, aiming is very acurate, if configured well.

A discussion is useless if there are such options. You can be against native Keyboard/Mouse support, but you can't prevent players from using what they like. And there is no way to prevent such adapters.

No native support of kb/m = advantage for players who use kb/m with an adapter
With native Support = equal opportunities for all

Keyboard doesn't fit in my hand, hard mousepad+mouse+keyboard sitting on the couch sounds awful please don't say that again I do not want to shuffling around with all this crap, oh please help me 153 buttons? I don't want to have to be jumping around to find buttons while I'm in a fight.

Wireless ok but that means I have to go out and spend more money on a mouse and keyboard when I already have a ps3 controller. Ps3 players won't want to spend more money on accesories, of course some will but that limits the people interested even more.

Would you like if you played pc, loved the controls, loved the system, then the next biggest game comes out and says they are adding gamepad support. But this gamepad is 100xs better and only a small group of players from a different game system use it. It costs 100$ and you don't like the controls or anything from it.

You will probably reply with yeah I'd adapt. Then why are you playing pc and not that game system?

I won't argue this issue anymore since you pc users are set on pc. Too bad for you guys this game is on ps3

Nope its the other way around KBM is easier and just simply better for fps games. Yet i hope they dont bring it to the game because it would unbalance this game into oblivion

I wonder how many of these people here actually play any PC titles, let alone shooters.

Oh mighty PC super race enlighten us

so do pc players have aim assists. and no its really not that easy to hit people by missing them. hit boxes arnt that bigger then pc (and some games the same). i play both for different reasons. pc my accuracy rating in most games is around the 40% mark, 22% average for console. iv played both for a very very long time. and consider my self a above average player. pc is point and click, analoge requires more dexterity.

as i say im not objecting to there use at all. far from it. but they have to be balanced, all inputs have to be on a level playing field. and fact is the mouse gives it an unfair advantage. its made on a console, love it or loathe it but there it is. so they have to consider there primary market. which is stick users.

this game has been funded to make someone money, wether it is sony by selling units. or ccp though aurum. if they dont consider the primary market the game will fail. and that means it will get shut down.

CoD on PC is bad because Activision can't charge $15 for maps they already sold you in previous releases of their games as easily. People on consoles are used to paying through the nose for next to zero content, PC players expect something substantial. As a result, CoD has a higher profit margin on the consoles because of the closed environment.

PC gamers had enough of the BS, and don't buy MW2/3/whatever now because they can't expect Activision, Sledgehammer, and in some cases even Treyarch, to do it right.

Thread still going strong, baws! Also the condescension towards consoleplayers or 'console kiddies' on a forum for a console exclusive is puzzling.

Because CCP promised KB/M support, and also supposedly working on PC client for then the 1year exlusivity agreement is over. Why would PC players lag behind a year on their characters? We're forced to buy the PS3 (because many EVE players want to participate in the battles over THEIR planets), but don't worry, soon as the PC client is released...hello ebay! Some sucker will buy it.

this is a PS3 game NOT a PC game.

all kb/m would allow players to do is abuse the broken movement & aim in Beta already

CCP NEVER (repeat NEVER) said they were going to bring kb/mouse into DUST 514 for any purpose other than in chat. Period.

KB/M without limitations won't happen.

You don't release a game that would play better using a kb/m on a console that is sold with controllers.

So your saying we should learn to use KB/M to play Dust 514? The game was designed for a console not PC they might as well just port it to PC then because this game wont last very long if KB/M doesn't have limitations.

What, your shotput ball is 6 pounds? That's dumb, look how much farther I can throw this baseball. How come the Olympics are dumbing down ball throwing? They should let me compete in shotput with this baseball instead of dumbing it down with your clearly inferior shotput ball.

Well then fine why bring it to console in the first place. This game will bomb on the console side if KB/M support is added and then PC get's a port. So don't even release on console it's pointless they are shooting themselves in the foot with this.

From what little my brain is capable of picking out of this massive wall of FUD, one of the concerns appears to be that having a mouse will magically allow a heavy weapons guy to spin around and bring his weapon to bear faster than the platters in a hard drive

a feat which will be impossible on the controller but totally doable with a mouse because they think CCP is dumb and don't know how to limit mouse or turning speed I guess

am I on the right track

This is awful now people will use thier mouse to shoot super fast on weapons like the breach assault rifle therefor giving anyone with a mouse a HUGE unfair advantage

seriously this stuff is getting boring now. this is why alot of forums have polls, so we can grasp popular opinion.

all i ask is a promise from ccp that they will support consolers if kb/m proves to much of an advantage.

And Eagle Eye is far from the only one. Regardless if CCP changes their stance on the matter, some players will have the advantage of KB/M, so it's better to make it easier for everyone to use. If they don't officially support KB/M, we'll just have to buy such adapters to be competitive in addition to mouse and keyboard. It just makes it a bit more expensive to "pay to win" as some call it.

I would like to see precisely that. I don't wan't my opponents to be disadvantaged by the DS3. And it could lead to more console games supporting KB/M.

No, it makes it so 10% of the playerbase dominate the 90%

because the game forces you to buy a piece of equipment you never use to be remotely good at the game

this game was designed for CONSOLE players in mind, not the PC, you guys have EVE.

i dont know why you guys are bothering to cry about keyboard and mouse. you are just gonna have to cry a lot more later when they slow it down to match controllers. do you guys really think they are going to add a secondary input device and make it better than the systems primary input device? and as for the aim assist crap, its garbage. good players dont use aim assist on a controller anyhow, it just throws off your aim.

even if i did use a kb/m where am i going to put it? i use my tv in the front room to play ps3 and i would have to set up a table with all them wires all i want to do is play games.

Again (this has been explained about a bajillion times) it's entirely subjective. "easier" does not automatically mean "better." To go back, yet again, to my Hurdles vs. Sprint analogy, sprinting isn't BETTER than hurdles just because it's easier. Go Kart racing is easier than F1 racing, but that doesn't make Go Kart racing "better."

seriously.. ds3 is not a bad system, if it was im fair positive the consoler builders would of stopped using them 10 years ago and fps wouldnt be the biggest selling games on consoles.

actually the vast majority of people, my self inclued. are not wishing it to be gone at all. i fully welcome kb/m, what we want is for it to be balanced so that kb/m offer no unfair advantage to the mouse abilty to be more accurate.

The Playstation Move gives a substantial advantage to Killzone 3. Accuracy is oh-so-much better with it, as well as gesture-based actions such as reloading. Sorry, but when comparing one to the other, the Move provides better input, just like the Keyboard and Mouse will.

or it will kill this game because as i stated before most people who play on console don't want to play on keyboard/mouse or else they would be playing on a pc.

well lets not stop ther why not put the xboxs 360 controller on the ps3 so every boddy is happy...

Back in 2007, Shadowrun came out and was the first game (I believe) to allows cooperative play between a console and PC. Immediately it became apparent that KB/M users had the upper hand due to the better responsiveness KB/M offers. That game quickly fizzled.

You could also say that cheaters will always abuse exploits so why not make the exploits really easy so anyone can cheat. That doesn't make it right.

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There's a reason if nobody ever did it again over 5 years and dozens of FPS.