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Benjamin Hellios Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 259	Posted - 2012.07.01 20:53:00 - [1] - Quote Enough with the kb/m thread spam already! If this game was also released on pc, then I'd say yes to balance it out but it's a ps3 exclusive so there is no good reason to do it other than the fact that some people don't know how to use a controller properly. This game was made for PS3 players who have no problem using a controller for FPS, not to atract whiny pc players who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn without kb/m. If any of you decide to get rid of your ps3 because of this, good riddance, the rest of us are doing just fine.
Benjamin Hellios Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 259	Posted - 2012.07.01 21:06:00 - [2] - Quote Lilianna Sentinel wrote: Benjamin Hellios wrote: Enough with the kb/m thread spam already! If this game wasalso released on pc, then I'd say yes to balance it out but it's a ps3 exclusive so there is no good reason to do it other than the fact that some people don't know how to use a controller properly. This game was made for PS3 players who have no problem using a controller for FPS, not to atract whiny pc players who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn without kb/m. If any of you decide to get rid of your ps3 because of this, good riddance, the rest of us are doing just fine. Well, I'll say the same thing to people who can't upgrade to a mouse and keyboard and quit as a result: Good riddance. This is better for everyone. If you don't want to move forward, we're happy leaving you behind. Just like when we move onto a new generation of hardware, just like when HD TVs come out, we can't stop and wait for those unwilling to upgrade. Except this upgrade is a decade late. I do have mouse and keyboard for my PS3 but I don't want to use it because in prevents me from lying in my couch comfortably while playing. If they put in kb/m, I'll be forced to use it if I want to be able to compete with other kb/m users and then I'll either have to sit up or lie in an awkward position which is unacceptable because I'm too high for this shite!
Benjamin Hellios Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 259	Posted - 2012.07.01 21:09:00 - [3] - Quote Freyar Tarkin wrote: Benjamin Hellios wrote: I do have mouse and keyboard for my PS3 but I don't want to use it because in prevents me from lying in my couch comfortably while playing. If they put in kb/m, I'll be forced to use it if I want to be able to compete with other kb/m users and then I'll either have to sit up or lie in an awkward position which is unacceptable because I'm too high for this shite! Sounds like a personal problem. Harden the **** up. So does the inability to use a controller, I assume you have opposable thumbs, use them.
Benjamin Hellios Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 259	Posted - 2012.07.01 21:33:00 - [4] - Quote Freyar Tarkin wrote: OnsIaught wrote: Mr514 wrote: there is a million reasons of why they shoud have keyboard and mouse option on dust, (there are many games where you CAN use keyboard and mouse on a PS3! ;-) ) This isn't like other games - Evetard You're breaking our Emergent Gameplay by forcing Keyboard and Mouse in Dust! Benjamin Hellios wrote: So does the inability to use a controller, I assume you have opposable thumbs, use them. Naw, see.. my thumbs are used for a number of purposes. First, the thumb on the left is used for crouching, jumping, and tertiary actions. I've also got four other fingers that can do a multitude of things. My right hand, my thumb is bracing the mouse, and even better, it can hit Mouse Button4 and Mouse Button5 for reloading and a tertiary action. Ok I get that, but you can do all those things with a controller, except aiming might be a bit slower. So if they do get kb/m, which I think they will tbh, they should match the turning speed of the mouse to that of the controller. I'm sure you'll hate that idea because it's considered 'dumbing down' but otherwise you're putting controller users at a disadvantage and at the end of the day it's a console game so there'll always be people using controllers, wether you like it or not.
Benjamin Hellios Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 259	Posted - 2012.07.01 21:42:00 - [5] - Quote sys Ghost wrote: The controller crusaders who are saying everyone needs to HTFU are just afraid of the superiority that KB/M brings. They claim that they can beat KB/M, yet if they really could, they would welcome the newcomers instead of raging. In all honesty they are acting like goons, claiming that something does not matter yer opposing it because they really do fear it. No one says that controller could beat kb/m, that's actually the whole point that kb/m users would dominate controller users which seems odd on a console system.
Benjamin Hellios Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 259	Posted - 2012.07.01 22:06:00 - [6] - Quote Lilianna Sentinel wrote: Phantomnom wrote: Freyar Tarkin wrote: Controllers have their place, just like arcade sticks, the Playstation Move, steering wheels, trackballs, and all those other input methods do. Yeah, the place is consoles. Which we are on. It shouldn't be a "Gamepad only, no other control methods allowed" deal. Actually it should, to keep a level playing field. We don't want your kind around here! Just kidding, I'm pretty convinced that there will be kb/m considering the demand. The rest of us will just have to adjust or become controller masters, which is fine.
Benjamin Hellios Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 259	Posted - 2012.07.01 22:28:00 - [7] - Quote And that's why this forum needs polls. While this is a great way to vent, it's not really getting us anywhere. We either need a clear view on the percentage of players that really want kb/m support, majority wins, end of discussion or official confirmation from the devs even though they already said they would and that statement hasn't been redacted. If they can get this thing to run smooth with controllers, it's gonna be pretty amazing with kb/m.
Benjamin Hellios Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 259	Posted - 2012.07.01 22:31:00 - [8] - Quote Lilianna Sentinel wrote: Tristan Kauls wrote: Nope its the other way around KBM is easier and just simply better for fps games. Yet i hope they dont bring it to the game because it would unbalance this game into oblivion I keep seeing people say this but I am puzzled as to what it means. Is it that it will make certain weapons more powerful than it is designed to be or is just mouse and keyboard users outperforming gamepad users? "just mouse and keyboard users outperforming gamepad users" at least I think so.
Benjamin Hellios Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 259	Posted - 2012.07.02 01:47:00 - [9] - Quote Thread still going strong, baws! Also the condescension towards consoleplayers or 'console kiddies' on a forum for a console exclusive is puzzling.
Benjamin Hellios Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 259	Posted - 2012.07.02 02:25:00 - [10] - Quote Hellaciouss Deeds wrote: Benjamin Hellios wrote: Thread still going strong, baws! Also the condescension towards consoleplayers or 'console kiddies' on a forum for a console exclusive is puzzling. Because CCP promised KB/M support, and also supposedly working on PC client for then the 1year exlusivity agreement is over. Why would PC players lag behind a year on their characters? We're forced to buy the PS3 (because many EVE players want to participate in the battles over THEIR planets), but don't worry, soon as the PC client is released...hello ebay! Some sucker will buy it. Everyone here bought one, so I guess we're all suckers.

Benjamin Hellios Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 259	Posted - 2012.07.05 19:28:00 - [11] - Quote Reefersmokintaz wrote: I guarantee the THOUSANDS of controller players will trump the M&K users. I play EVE AND I play FPS on the PS3. Im not too bad on Dust with a controller but prefer M&K. Seems like some console gamers dont like us EVE players....Well you probably will be fighting in OUR space on OUR planets sometime and us EVE players will be ready to orbital strike ya with no remorse. In vice versa also as Ill be getting the thunder brought down on top of my head by other EVE players lol. Unless another dust player calls in an orbital strike and gives you the coordinates, you won't be able to do anything. Hammertime! Can't touch this... On a serious note, I don't mind EVE players one bit since they'll be the ones providing me with contracts and monaaaay!
Benjamin Hellios Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 259	Posted - 2012.07.05 20:39:00 - [12] - Quote Is it spam if I post this in every single kb/m thread? Oh well... From Dust514.org February 13, 2012 Broadcastorm: Well we should really go on with the interview right now. So Grideris, what's your first question and the official statement from CCP about the thing that people don't still believe us. Grideris: Yes yes yes. Gentlemen, can you please for once and for all settle it: DUST will support the mouse and keyboard in-game when you're shooting. Can you please settle this for once and for all? CCP Praetorian: Yes CCP CmdrWang: Yes we can. Yes we will support the mouse and keyboard for DUST514 including in-game shooting. And I just want to add that you know we are aware of how critical this is to get it right because we've seen other games try to attempt this and there were some problems. But we are dedicated considerable amount of resources into this particular feature because we want to do it right and we want to make sure that our players when they use the mouse and keyboard they will have a very good experience comparable to what they're used to on the PC. Grideris: Now another question that his revelation has brought up is what is the balance between the mouse and the keyboard versus the controller and by extension, against Playstation Move going to be like? Are you going to make sure that it's all balanced. Because we've had a lot of concern over this. Yes? CCP Praetorian: We're learning a lot the difference between the three styles of control. And I mean obviously we're still developing it, still balancing, and our commitment is very high. It's supposed to be perfect. But we'll go into more detail on that later once we've you know, kind of hammered in all of the details. Grideris: Sounds good. -------- Maybe we should all put a little faith in CCP, accept that it's happening, and trust that it will be balanced.
Benjamin Hellios Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 259	Posted - 2012.07.05 21:00:00 - [13] - Quote Regis Mark V wrote: But we are dedicated considerable amount of resources into this particular feature because we want to do it right and we want to make sure that our players when they use the mouse and keyboard they will have a very good experience comparable to what they're used to on the PC. That's enough to say DS3 users are ****** lol! Did you read the next part? Kb/m isn't happening until it's perfect and that might be a while, and when it does happen it'll be balanced so nobody has anything to worry about.
Benjamin Hellios Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 259	Posted - 2012.07.05 21:31:00 - [14] - Quote Lilianna Sentinel wrote: Average Joe81 wrote: This is awful now people will use thier mouse to shoot super fast on weapons like the breach assault rifle therefor giving anyone with a mouse a HUGE unfair advantage Even if you're against mouse support, I would think you'd be happy to test it sooner just so you can use test results to inform CCP that it is bad for the game. Good one. Anyway why is this still an issue, it'll be balanced somehow, I'm sure CCP knows what they're doing. If testing reveals something's broken they'll fix it, don't worry.

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