Everything needs one counter measure. Make the focused scanner scan to 14 db. On a proto galante logi. Paper rock scissors
<---- caldari logi personally

So what's the counter measure for a proto gal logi runnning 4 focused scanners?

So what's the counter measure for a proto gal logi runnning 4 focused scanners?

So what's the counter measure for a proto gal logi runnning 4 focused scanners?

Gal range bonus needs removed completely. not that it will make much of a difference.
I have been Gal scout since open beta. Will be Gal scout when they shut the servers down.

still say just remove the 2nd equipment slot

if they want to run uplinks, they have to sacrifice the cloak.
Removes alot of options for the gall scout, but still leaves doors open.

I agree i have never been a big fan of the scan range bonus on the Gal scout. For two reasons

1) the cal scout already has this bonus and I don't see any reasoning in giving two scouts the same racial bonus.
2) it does not work that well with the second bonus.

If you look at that cal scout both bonuses make perfect sense in creating a unique role as both strengthen each other. That's pretty cool.

Now the gal scout can equip two prec enhancers to make some use of the scanrange but for me this bonus does not fit to a role and makes little sense in combination with the profile dampening.

I really have problems in finding the role CCP intended for the gal scout.

There are of curse combinations that would make a great role:

Dampening + NK or SG or sidearm damage bonus = stealthy assassin
Dampening + Hacking bonus = the true hacker unseen and fast
Dampening + Scanrange = ???

Obviously you're a cal scout. The cal scout racial bonus is OP with squad vision. Remove the bonus or remove squad vision.

WTF how in hell did you come to this conclusion?? I am running gal scout since closed Beta more or less exclusively

My $0.02 would be to make plates slow down a suit more when stacked on lighter fittings (meaning real-world implications to encumbrance). A scout with 3-4 plates should actually move slower than a heavy with those same 3-4 plates because it is less encumbered by that weight.

Think of it this way, if you weigh 145 lbs vs someone at 215 lbs, and someone else hands each of you a 250 lbs sack, the 145 lbs person would possibly not even be able to move, let alone quickly, while the 215 lbs individual may move slower but likely can move closer to their norm.

Most people aren't having problems with what is being discussed, it is the fact that they can do it with 700 hp of armor while retaining their speed. If you make them slower, then their major benefit is removed and all you had to do was what makes sense from a physics standpoint.

I doubt that many people would be as upset by the undetectable scout if all they had to do was sneeze toward it to put it down. I definitely think the problem is too many people use the minimap instead of their eyes.

Well then you have a crush on the cal scout.

The gal scout is about stealth and the SG in my opinion. The better range was to help you find targets to sneak up on. Of course everyone has their own views. Still any opinion on the cal scout racial bonus being to OP as I mentioned above?

Or maybe make classes of plates-light, medium, and heavy (militia - pro of all). For example, a light proto plate only gives you 60 hp extra but has no movement penalty on heavy and very low on scout. On the other end of the spectrum proto heavy plate gives you 180 hp extra (per plate) but a 7% penalty to heavies and 10% to scouts. This would give more variation on speed vs ehp while balancing them on the scout, since a near undetectable Gal Scout running 1k EHP runs at the speed of a heavy, while scouts who want to speed tank could still add a light plate or two. This would mean a Gal Heavy stacking plates would be almost a god sticking on a single point, but in open terrain would be a sitting...er, waddling duck. I know the light plate is pretty much what Ferroscale is, but if you changed it to weight class plates, each weight class of plate could have a movement penalty to each weight class suit.

Or maybe make classes of plates-light, medium, and heavy (militia - pro of all). For example, a light proto plate only gives you 60 hp extra but has no movement penalty on heavy and very low on scout. On the other end of the spectrum proto heavy plate gives you 180 hp extra (per plate) but a 7% penalty to heavies and 10% to scouts. This would give more variation on speed vs ehp while balancing them on the scout, since a near undetectable Gal Scout running 1k EHP runs at the speed of a heavy, while scouts who want to speed tank could still add a light plate or two. This would mean a Gal Heavy stacking plates would be almost a god sticking on a single point, but in open terrain would be a sitting...er, waddling duck. I know the light plate is pretty much what Ferroscale is, but if you changed it to weight class plates, each weight class of plate could have a movement penalty to each weight class suit.

Well then you have a crush on the cal scout.

The gal scout is about stealth and the SG in my opinion. The better range was to help you find targets to sneak up on. Of course everyone has their own views. Still any opinion on the cal scout racial bonus being to OP as I mentioned above?

or perhaps make movement accelerate the use rate of the cloaking duration

You know what else might have worked? The original implementaiton that was planned. If CCP had retained the ability to fire from cloak, with the associated drain on cloaks when firing, shot gun scouts would be naked after killing one player for at (minimum) 15sec while waiting for their cloak to charge back to half charge. We could have had 'waves of oportunity' and instead we a got broken implementation due to an pre-nerf forced by the community.

To be honest I hate the cal scout as this suit seems extremely glitchi...the squad vision thing must be a bug (that CCP will probably never fix)

As I said by the fact both cal scouts bonusses strenghten each other that makes them soo powerful. My statement regarding the scanrange on the gal scout was really just related to the missing role. The role you mentioned can be performed way better by the cal scout (especially after the gal scout nerf).

So basically I want a different (unnerfed bonus that fits to a role).

still say just remove the 2nd equipment slot

if they want to run uplinks, they have to sacrifice the cloak.
Removes alot of options for the gall scout, but still leaves doors open.

This is what I say needs to be done to balance scouts. No more cloaked RE guys. No more cloaked uplinkers. It forces you to use a gun with the cloak.

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This is what I say needs to be done to balance scouts. No more cloaked RE guys. No more cloaked uplinkers. It forces you to use a gun with the cloak.

This is what I say needs to be done to balance scouts. No more cloaked RE guys. No more cloaked uplinkers. It forces you to use a gun with the cloak.

A heavy plated scout already is slow, very slow...but I am not against light medium and heavy plates I made supported this suggestion already elsewhere.

my suggestion would be:
be light plates (like the current reactive ones without movement penalty)
medium plates like ferroscales small penalty for light suits an no for med/heavy frames
Heavy plates like std plates big penalty on scouts moderate on med/heavy frames

Thus balancing the cloaked brick tanked shotgun scout once and for all! Oh...wait...

Fix the assault suits before nerfing everything else into the ground.