Hi everyone. Me again.

Why PC first? For a few different reasons... It's a scalable platform. We can go high spec for the most demanding players in terms of Gfx, but we can also scale down to low/mid spec to get critical mass. It's also a good platform for the early stage of a project like ours. You can test and balance the game and the economy quite easily with fast turn-arounds. We can set people up in testing environments easily (eg. ISD in EVE). If you've seen the "CCP Presents" presentation on Saturday at Fanfest, there was a talk about CCP refocusing on its core tech competency, which is PC. It allows in the future the creation of a "universe" of products on the same platform. Again, this doesn't mean that we're not going back to console at one point but we need to focus on one thing at a time and deliver an awesome game, then things get easier.

Now I'd like to address (or repeat) something important for me. I know that a lot of you have been really disappointed and wanted to see much more on the future of DUST 514 in its current form and I absolutely understand that feeling. But the reality is that, while it's a great shooter, I repeat that it's not the base that can give us another EVE Online with 10+ years of epic battles where players can have a great experience whether solo, as the head of the deadliest squad or largest corp in the game. Give people the right tools to manage/achieve all that. A much clearer user experience that opens up that huge universe, always discover new stuff to shoot, to loot, to sell... A social experience where corps can advertise/recruit easily, where you see the main chat going crazy with people asking for groups, selling stuff, talking ****. Some of the stuff that makes me feel like I am in an MMO. All of these aren't tweaks, they are features forming a new eco-system for the game, a foundation you can then build on. No doubt that DUST 514 is a large piece of that foundation. We've accomplished so much and I've had a ton of fun every day since beta but it is not there yet. It requires a lot of work of course but also a different approach in how we design and execute on that vision. I can go on and on about how I see this evolve but we'll cover in more depth as we start sharing ideas and designs through dev blogs and such.

Hi everyone. Me again.

Hi everyone. Me again...

Hi everyone. Me again.

Why PC first? For a few different reasons... It's a scalable platform. We can go high spec for the most demanding players in terms of Gfx, but we can also scale down to low/mid spec to get critical mass. It's also a good platform for the early stage of a project like ours. You can test and balance the game and the economy quite easily with fast turn-arounds. We can set people up in testing environments easily (eg. ISD in EVE). If you've seen the "CCP Presents" presentation on Saturday at Fanfest, there was a talk about CCP refocusing on its core tech competency, which is PC. It allows in the future the creation of a "universe" of products on the same platform. Again, this doesn't mean that we're not going back to console at one point but we need to focus on one thing at a time and deliver an awesome game, then things get easier.

Now I'd like to address (or repeat) something important for me. I know that a lot of you have been really disappointed and wanted to see much more on the future of DUST 514 in its current form and I absolutely understand that feeling. But the reality is that, while it's a great shooter, I repeat that it's not the base that can give us another EVE Online with 10+ years of epic battles where players can have a great experience whether solo, as the head of the deadliest squad or largest corp in the game. Give people the right tools to manage/achieve all that. A much clearer user experience that opens up that huge universe, always discover new stuff to shoot, to loot, to sell... A social experience where corps can advertise/recruit easily, where you see the main chat going crazy with people asking for groups, selling stuff, talking ****. Some of the stuff that makes me feel like I am in an MMO. All of these aren't tweaks, they are features forming a new eco-system for the game, a foundation you can then build on. No doubt that DUST 514 is a large piece of that foundation. We've accomplished so much and I've had a ton of fun every day since beta but it is not there yet. It requires a lot of work of course but also a different approach in how we design and execute on that vision. I can go on and on about how I see this evolve but we'll cover in more depth as we start sharing ideas and designs through dev blogs and such.

..while it's a great shooter,

I realize everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but really, do you think the numbers support that opinion, or are you just biased?

Hi everyone,

Thank you for all of your feedback so far. I'd like to answer a few of your questions about DUST 514 and Project Legion directly given the feedback you gave me. I've picked these four points as they are coming up the most on the forums as well as in the live roundtable discussions here at Fanfest.

1) What happens to my character, skills and stuff?

If Project Legion becomes something more than a prototype, we will not leave our DUST 514 players behind. You would be able to bring your character name, applicable skills/inventory, and other elements of progression with you. We are still working on the details and we will have more to announce soon.

2) Are you completely abandoning DUST dev?

No. Without promising too much, we are actively working on stuff like balancing, Planetary Conquest, matchmaking, the in-game economy, and more. And of course we continue to work with the CPM to identify ways to improve the game.

3) Is Project Legion going to have a PS4 version? Or something for consoles?

It is still far too early to discuss platform expansion, as like you saw we are still only working on the PC prototype at this time. But the PC architecture gives us the opportunity to grow once we have a great PC product at hand. For now, though, PlayStation 4 is not something we are working on.

4) When are you going to give us more concrete information on Legion?

Again, Project Legion is still in an early stage of development but the whole idea behind giving a sneak peek at Fanfest is to get early feedback - and I really want to keep this discussion going, show you progress through dev blogs and such and listen to what you have to say.

Please post your feedback and questions in this thread - and let's keep this conversation going. The team and I will be reading this thread, and I will respond as soon as I can.

CCP Rouge

Hi everyone. Me again.

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Yeah, that statement is pretty laughable.

Commit. Communicate. Be completely transparent.

I realize everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but really, do you think the numbers support that opinion, or are you just biased?

Agreed Ankbar. That statement does not contribute to his credibility.

Perhaps Rouge does not understand that we weren't playing and investing in DUST for it's qualities as a shooter(DUST 514), but rather for our commitment to a vision shared with CCP.

Hey guys, sorry about not getting back to you earlier. HereGÇÖs some more info for you.

I want to address the concerns about character migration from DUST 514 to Project Legion if it goes ahead. There has been some concern about what I meant by GÇ£applicableGÇ¥. We are looking to migrate everything we can about characters from DUST 514, including names, corporation membership, skill points, assets and ISK. We have not yet decided how this would translate to the new items and progression system in Legion, but we want to make sure that the time and effort you committed in DUST 514 is carried over to Project Legion.

I wanted to address the questions about what type of payment model we are looking to use with Project Legion. I want to make it free-to-play, but it will be slightly different to how it is in DUST. I want CCP Z to cover it soon for you guys in a dedicated dev blog.

When it comes to DUST development I can tell you that we are currently looking at changes to Planetary Conquest, further iterating on item balance after Uprising 1.8 and some matchmaking improvements; all of which will be deployed as server-side updates. We currently don't have a date set for when you will get these updates.

IGÇÖll do my best to answer more questions, and IGÇÖll also get other devs to chime in with answers to your questions. Please keep posting your thoughts and questions.

Hi everyone. Me again.

Why PC first? For a few different reasons... It's a scalable platform. We can go high spec for the most demanding players in terms of Gfx, but we can also scale down to low/mid spec to get critical mass. It's also a good platform for the early stage of a project like ours. You can test and balance the game and the economy quite easily with fast turn-arounds. We can set people up in testing environments easily (eg. ISD in EVE). If you've seen the "CCP Presents" presentation on Saturday at Fanfest, there was a talk about CCP refocusing on its core tech competency, which is PC. It allows in the future the creation of a "universe" of products on the same platform. Again, this doesn't mean that we're not going back to console at one point but we need to focus on one thing at a time and deliver an awesome game, then things get easier.

Now I'd like to address (or repeat) something important for me. I know that a lot of you have been really disappointed and wanted to see much more on the future of DUST 514 in its current form and I absolutely understand that feeling. But the reality is that, while it's a great shooter, I repeat that it's not the base that can give us another EVE Online with 10+ years of epic battles where players can have a great experience whether solo, as the head of the deadliest squad or largest corp in the game. Give people the right tools to manage/achieve all that. A much clearer user experience that opens up that huge universe, always discover new stuff to shoot, to loot, to sell... A social experience where corps can advertise/recruit easily, where you see the main chat going crazy with people asking for groups, selling stuff, talking ****. Some of the stuff that makes me feel like I am in an MMO. All of these aren't tweaks, they are features forming a new eco-system for the game, a foundation you can then build on. No doubt that DUST 514 is a large piece of that foundation. We've accomplished so much and I've had a ton of fun every day since beta but it is not there yet. It requires a lot of work of course but also a different approach in how we design and execute on that vision. I can go on and on about how I see this evolve but we'll cover in more depth as we start sharing ideas and designs through dev blogs and such.

Hi everyone. Me again.

Why PC first?.

I think Dust 514 is a great shooter, and I have played a lot of different FPS, both on PC and console.
The definition of "great" differ from person to person, and it does not HAVE to be about fluid gameplay, detailed textures and spot on hit detection (which I agree Dust lacks). It can still be great for other reasons.

For me, the issue isn't migrating from PS3 to the PC. I think that is a necessary change and should have been the platform of choice from the beginning. Once again the real issue is communication. You should have come to us months ago and admitted that the PS3 was a dead end and that you would begin the migration but it would take time. As a new EP you had the opportunity to come in, plant your flag, and say, "what came before me isn't working and I'm going to fix it."

Were you expecting to keep up income? Tell us that migration of characters and assets would have been a high priority. Explain how core concepts might change but you would map the changes to the best of your abilities and compensate us with virtual assets when things didn't map over.

The DUST keynote was a complete fiasco. Trying to dazzle us with a flashy demo while not talking about the current game? We're not stupid. You should have lead the presentation with a story of how the PS3 is holding us all back. Explain how limiting it is and how you have a solution. You still haven't even committed to Legion. Its still just a tech demo.

What angered me the most is seeing the poor quality level of Uprising 1.8 and realizing that we'd be suffering with the "B-team" for another two years as your best developers concentrated on Legion (which isn't even a sure thing). CCP Shanghai's inability to even delivery accurate patch notes has baffled me. A feel like an ass for telling someone how to do their job but I was so frustrated about weak patch notes I sent CCP Frame advice on how to get that data out of developers.

I've mentioned it in my tweets but I'll say it again here. DUST is dead to me. I'll return to try out Legion but the implementation of DUST has been handled so poorly and I'm just too tired of CCP presenting big ideas and failing to deliver them.

I recommend you look at how Star Citizen is handling things. They have two to three videos per week, a massive monthly update blog, a monthly magazine and full transparency of development. We're still at least a year out for the single player game and two for the MMO yet the players are well informed and flexible as the design evolves. Players can be happy even without a working product if they can see progress. CCP Shanghai doesn't need quite that level of communication but you can certainly take inspiration from it. Hiding from social media for the first months of your leadership? Yeah, that wasn't a good move.

Commit. Communicate. Be completely transparent.

If you do those three things I will be back for Legion.

Hi everyone. Me again.

Why PC first? For a few different reasons... It's a scalable platform. We can go high spec for the most demanding players in terms of Gfx, but we can also scale down to low/mid spec to get critical mass. It's also a good platform for the early stage of a project like ours. You can test and balance the game and the economy quite easily with fast turn-arounds. We can set people up in testing environments easily (eg. ISD in EVE). If you've seen the "CCP Presents" presentation on Saturday at Fanfest, there was a talk about CCP refocusing on its core tech competency, which is PC. It allows in the future the creation of a "universe" of products on the same platform. Again, this doesn't mean that we're not going back to console at one point but we need to focus on one thing at a time and deliver an awesome game, then things get easier.

Now I'd like to address (or repeat) something important for me. I know that a lot of you have been really disappointed and wanted to see much more on the future of DUST 514 in its current form and I absolutely understand that feeling. But the reality is that, while it's a great shooter, I repeat that it's not the base that can give us another EVE Online with 10+ years of epic battles where players can have a great experience whether solo, as the head of the deadliest squad or largest corp in the game. Give people the right tools to manage/achieve all that. A much clearer user experience that opens up that huge universe, always discover new stuff to shoot, to loot, to sell... A social experience where corps can advertise/recruit easily, where you see the main chat going crazy with people asking for groups, selling stuff, talking ****. Some of the stuff that makes me feel like I am in an MMO. All of these aren't tweaks, they are features forming a new eco-system for the game, a foundation you can then build on. No doubt that DUST 514 is a large piece of that foundation. We've accomplished so much and I've had a ton of fun every day since beta but it is not there yet. It requires a lot of work of course but also a different approach in how we design and execute on that vision. I can go on and on about how I see this evolve but we'll cover in more depth as we start sharing ideas and designs through dev blogs and such.

"Again, this doesn't mean that we're not going back to console at one point but we need to focus on one thing at a time and deliver an awesome game, then things get easier."

...we need to focus on one thing at a time and deliver an awesome game, then things get easier.

...it's not the base that can give us another EVE Online with 10+ years of epic battles where players can have a great experience whether so

Finally, to CCP: Eventually such shoddy treatment of your players is going to catch up to you.

Saberwing and Logibro can do all the damage control they want, but the simple fact of the matter is, we were misled for months about progression of this game, being encouraged to buy aurum with the promises of new content and long-term progression in the same format. Now we know better.

Maybe you guys really are competent programmers and the PS3 really was the only issue. I doubt it, but letGÇÖs say thatGÇÖs true. That is completely unrelated and does not excuse how you treated a very loyal group of players.

Moreover, to do this, and then be faced with obvious disapproval by your customers, and say essentially nothing for 48 hours, is pathetic, and reeks of incompetence, contempt, or both.

Even still, days later, the following things that, honestly, almost any well run business would have done by now to demonstrate a commitment to customers, have not happened:

1)An actual apology - Saberwings short and bland one, buried in a thread, is insufficient, and heGÇÖs not even the one who should be doing it. Rouge has said nothing even remotely contrite to date.

2)Concrete explanations of how our concerns will be addressed and why this happened. The responses to our concerns have been nebulous at best, and late GǪ I mean, why not mention right away characters would be transferred over if that was your plan? That would have cooled a lot of the rage. The fact that you didnGÇÖt makes me suspect you are backpedaling on the original plan, which is a bad one anyway, predicating all this on a game thatGÇÖs not even greenlit by the CEO!

3)Some type of good-faith offer to refund, at the very least, the last month or two of aurum sales. Changing plans and using your own intellectual property as best you see fit is one thing. But misleading customers into paying for something they are not actually getting is another. Is it a classic bait and switch? Maybe not, but I can make an argument that hyping boosters and the origin pack just days before FanFest, is very very close. No amount of backpedaling, dubious promises about Legion features and character transfer can erase that one!

You do those three things, CCP, and you will restore most of our faith in you (however misplaced) and may get me back as a customer. Otherwise, IGÇÖm not interested in supporting you as a company any longer.

Good day to you, sirs!

....I recommend you look at how Star Citizen is handling things. They have two to three videos per week, a massive monthly update blog, a monthly magazine and full transparency of development. We're still at least a year out for the single player game and two for the MMO yet the players are well informed and flexible as the design evolves. Players can be happy even without a working product if they can see progress. CCP Shanghai doesn't need quite that level of communication but you can certainly take inspiration from it. Hiding from social media for the first months of your leadership? Yeah, that wasn't a good move.

Commit. Communicate. Be completely transparent.....

Is the realisation that the PS3 is a dead-end in terms of delivering a shooter that'll last for years, one that CCP made after you arrived at the company, or was something brewing already?

I can't disagree with the choice to move to PC; though I'm interested in why this move was made now; and not when Dust 514 was announced many years ago. It was the first question on everyone's mind back then:

"why develop a shooter that should last for years on a console that's nearing it's end of life?"

Can imagine it made sense from a financial point of view; but still that's poor decision-making (back then).