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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2014.05.04 01:59:00 -
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lobo christy wrote:Flint Beastgood III wrote:lobo christy wrote:So I Guess Dust is DEAD! Pretty much, unless you're happy with a mediocre lobby-shooter replacement. So no more 10 year plan . The Ps3 Probably wont be around in 10 years That would be a great comment if DUST hadn't been planned for a port to a new platform until Legion showed up to replace it instead. |
Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
508
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Posted - 2014.05.04 03:17:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:lobo christy wrote:Flint Beastgood III wrote:lobo christy wrote:So I Guess Dust is DEAD! Pretty much, unless you're happy with a mediocre lobby-shooter replacement. So no more 10 year plan . The Ps3 Probably wont be around in 10 years That would be a great comment if DUST hadn't been planned for a port to a new platform until Legion showed up to replace it instead.
I remember in IRC everyone telling me they used Unrel because they were going to port it to all 3 platforms.....
now they limit themselves. Everyone saying that PC would be a better platform
http://www.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Hardware_Specs
How much PC do I need to beat that ? What do you think that'll run me?
For what I saw is a tree and some haze patched on to the same lobby shooter....
Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute
Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
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Choose Your Fighter
ILL OM3NS
7
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Posted - 2014.05.04 03:20:00 -
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Meric Voyer wrote:Illuminaughty-696 wrote:....The anger and frustration is because CCP went out of their way to have an event to sell their origin packs, then essentially laughed all the way to the bank as they announced Legion. The inherent deception in that should be obvious.....
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Darius Ashran
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
60
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Posted - 2014.05.04 03:44:00 -
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Page 14 and no dev reply's.... Rouge this is not the best example to be setting on the whole " i would like to answer some of your questions" front. If you cant do it you need to get another dev on it man. Its damage control time for that fail PR episode. And frankly saberwing screwed that up badly. |
ROEG X
BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
53
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Posted - 2014.05.04 04:05:00 -
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Dust 514 started on the PlayStation 3, it's only right to carry the game over to the PlayStation 4. |
Lucrezia LeGrand
Sentinels of New Eden
523
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Posted - 2014.05.04 04:39:00 -
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too little too late. rouge wedding indeed.
Thale groupie (not the gun, but the man).
My other car is Utena.
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Cymek Omnius
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2014.05.04 05:19:00 -
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I have something on my mind on the point of migration. I have two Eve accounts which are both full with Characters that have more SP than my dust mercs. The proposal of using the same character in all three games has me wondering how that is going to be possible unless we have the option of merging Dust and Eve Characters together. I would not mind this but want this out there ahead of time.
Is this being looked at so we don't get bit later? |
Canari Elphus
Dirt Nap Squad.
1630
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Posted - 2014.05.04 05:35:00 -
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LOL @ 14 pages and not a CCP response since OP. Enjoy your lip service boys
You get nothing! Good day sir!
PSN - ShallowGravez - Destiny here we come...
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
561
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Posted - 2014.05.04 06:22:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Ok, first off kudos to the people in this thread who are at least trying to maintain some sense of decency and rationality in the discussion despite being angry about it all.
The rest of you seriously need to stop and reevaluate yourselves before posting some of these messages. We all understand you're angry about this whole ordeal, but the way the majority of you are going about expressing yourselves with vulgarity, obscenities, insults, and just overall acting like a bunch of spoiled children is simply pathetic.
No one is going to take your message seriously when you come off like some child who's throwing a temper tantrum. So please, if you're going to try and give feedback, please don't make it seem like the DUST community is filled with a bunch of angry ranting teenagers.
That being said, thank you CCP Rouge for the clarifications. Many of us were not able to go to fanfest for the Q&A so any extra information you give us is highly appreciated. I am part of the small minority that is supporting what you're doing here. I will admit, the way you guys decided to handle it is questionable and people (mainly the console folk) are understandably angry about it. They view their characters as an investment they've made with both their time and money and now, to them, they believe that investment is simply going to vanish due to some inability to transfer over to playing on PC.
You've made it clear that our characters will persist which alone is enough reason for me to continue playing DUST. I highly appreciate that CCP is at least trying to make the right moves here. DUST was always a great vision that never really lived up to its potential and most rational people will agree that it's just not feasible to actualize that vision on the PS3, nor was it ever.
Now, the concerns about CCP pulling a "bait and switch" are highly valid for a lot of customers who aren't able to switch to PC and yet have devoted themselves to this game on the PS3. I believe this is something that should be addressed by you guys as well. Yes, you're a business and a business needs income to survive, but to suggest one thing and then pull the rug without notice is a bit sketchy.
As for Legion, I'm glad CCP had decided that the only way to move forward is to start anew. Sometimes the only way to deal with a bad dog is to just put her down. DUST sort of became this beast that didn't really seem to be going anywhere. The technical restrictions put a lot of stress on developers in trying to give us awe-inspiring content while remaining within limitations. The move to PC will definitely alleviate a lot of those concerns which I'm glad about. My biggest issue with DUST has always been the absolutely horrible performance it has on the PS3. The move to PC will finally answer that, which I'm glad.
My only question then is: what reason do we have to continue supporting DUST? It's clear with what you've given us that DUST has, like others have said, "one foot in the grave". Yes, you'll continue to "balance, tweak" but with no new promised content are we to just continue toiling in the same semi-broken game for the year or more it's going to take before we see Legion come to fruition?
We begged and CCP promised to give us something tangible this Fanfest, something that they're actually working on and we'd see results from. Project Legion is in "very early testing" and considered just a "prototype" and what not. These are not things that we as players see as something that will be tangible to us in the near future. The few of us that remained playing this game had hopes that CCP would use Fanfest as a way to revitalize our interest in DUST. Project Legion looks great, sure, and I'm anxious to see it released, but it serves nothing in terms of maintaining my desire to support your company in the coming months/year. And this is coming from someone who was excited about Project Legion.
DUST has become stale and boring, and to come out and promise me a new game that is still in "very early development" doesn't really give me a spark of hope for this game. Who's to say in the next year or however long it takes for Legion I won't just completely forget about DUST and move on to a new product. At that point, I'll already likely have vested interests in other products and may care very little for DUST. There's tons of new games coming out for PC that have been in development for a long time (e.g. Star Citizen) that are still in development and may very well surpass what you're going to be offering with Legion. All in all, you laid out a valid long-term plan but did absolutely nothing to address short-term concerns about the game we are currently playing.
Bro they are abandoning the console players. Don't give me that ******* wall of text in a try to smooth things over. For me it's not about the money, trust me I have more than most. It's the ******* lies and al empty promises that what ppl are pissed about.
So in other words STFU
War never changes
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The Loathing
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
314
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Posted - 2014.05.04 06:35:00 -
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Obviously there is a HUGE demand for sandbox experiences in this generation of gaming, as is the expectations of MMO elements. Obviously with the pending release of Star Citizen, Destiny, and other Space based combat MMOs CCP need to strike out with a heavy-hitting IP.
But there is no other way to describe this but a 'turning of the back' on Dust 514. I myself am unaffected by this pending release as I moved on from Dust 514 a while ago, but when I heard of this new release I felt nothing but sorrow and anger for the Dusters who were more patient and faithful than I was and have spend vast fortunes on this game. They had complete faith that CCP would make Dust into a better game, not just make a better game.
No matter how much Rouge assures that Dust 514 will still get all the attention on its current iteration it needs, this new IP will nothing but overshadow and finally eclipse Dust, making it an entire waste of money for those expendable items that were MEANT to contribute to Planetary Conquest dominance.
You know what they call Dust Mercs, don't you? Chicken of the Console...
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Astr0 Knot
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.05.04 07:19:00 -
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So I am assuming this decision is because of the very limited resources available to the PS3. With the PC Project Legion has nearly limitless potential where as the PS3 version of Dust is not up to the task of what CCP is trying to deliver.
Does this mean that Dust and Project Legion will have their own unique gaming experiences?
Dust will probably remain having a player cap where as Legion won't. Legion will have vast planet/battleground customization where Dust couldn't.
Should Dust be treated as more of a competitive skill based game where Legion is more of a resource commitment game?
If Dust were to be balanced very well, especially between high and low end, that would be a great starting point.
I'll post in the Features and Ideas Discussion a more coherent idea.
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1039
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Posted - 2014.05.04 07:44:00 -
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i heard from a guy in eve redio that you couldare allowed to buy a PC with Aurum? is this true, if so then i guess that would nt be so bad for people who spent money into this game
In Rust We Trust
Vherokior Warrior
My Honor is for the Republic
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rafael tonka ii
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.05.04 08:10:00 -
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Feck! Reading the tears has made me miss breakfast in the hotel, so now I need to go out and buy something to eat! P1ssed off at that because I'd paid for breakfast!!!
I'm one of the large number of PC gaming Eve players who went out and paid for a PS3 purely so that I could play Dust from Beta and was hugely disappointed by the results. I've dipped in now and then ever since but it just doesn't hold my interest as it hasn't been able to deliver on what the dream was. The move to PC for Legion will be a welcome move on my behalf, I'll play eve in one window, legion in another and with luck have a fully fledged mechanism of interacting both ways. If not then I'll have 2 different games that I will more than likely continue to enjoy I their own right until they disappear, and everything will one day die off.
I was a bit surprised at the way in which console only Dusties were basically swept aside after paying a lot of cash to go to Iceland, CCP should have made some announcements prior to fanfest that Dusts days were numbered and given these loyal fans the choice of going or not....
However what's done is done. The majority of the New Eden community is PC based and the majority of us will continue to play the games that evolve in that world. Yes, there will be the odd tear and rage quit, but that's just life. You can please some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time!
Finally, to those of you quitting New Eden (Eve and/or Dust) - Can I have your stuffs? |
Kev Crow
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
42
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Posted - 2014.05.04 08:33:00 -
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@ Garret
We can argue about whether they could do it on PS3 till the cows come home it seems, I have my expert friend programmers, ( have actually worked on a small dev project myself) you have yours...
I guess my point is the one you made yourself:
Garrett Blacknova wrote:
There is a certain measure of what DUST wanted to be which simply can't happen on the PS3
Did CCP screw up? Of course. By doing so did they let down a lot of expectations of the console players. Sure. Should they bow down to the pressure and humbly continue developing PS3 because experts like you think they should. No. Should they listen to good advice, ( like the fact that CPM has warned them how this will go down with the community) No doubt. Should they continue to focus on their innovative vision without compromise even if it means that the road ahead requires some very unpopular decisions. Hell yeah!
Thats how its always done if you want to succeed where no one else did. When George Lucas was making his first Star Wars films he alienated a lot of people, his studio - Fox was furious by the end, actors thought he didn't know what he was doing and it was all too weird. Right to the very end the project seemed doomed and yet, I can say today: May the 4th be with you :-)
I don't claim to be an expert or presume to advise them how to deal with a difficult situations. What I understand is innovation and the predicament CCP is in while trying to reach their goals. I think that their chances are slim at best but in order succeeding they have to balance between alienating too many people and braking or bending some established patterns of behaviour. The simple fact is that their main customer base is PC players some of you lovingly refer to as EVE tards. DUST was built because EVE made CCP successful enough to consider such a project. But lets say that the worst case scenario occurs and the console development idea for DUST is totally dropped the PC players are their core customers and are the logical priority here.
So yes, CCP is making a strategic retreat for the sake of their future plans. Retreats, even orderly once, have inevitable casualties. The best we can hope for is that the console marked is not totally abandoned and those of us who care about that should stick around to make sure it happens. Any other approach to this fiasco, justifiably or not, righteous or not is just entitlement. |
Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
191
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Posted - 2014.05.04 09:03:00 -
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I am very pleased with any form of character migration.
Sad that Dust is not gonna see new content, assumably. No more racial parity for Amarr and Min.
What I would really care for is some sort of timeline. When do we can expect to get Legion? When is the Beta testing going to start? Could interested Dust players get closed Beta access as some sort of "thank you" for supporting the game up until now? Can we sign up to something like this beforehand and get news about it?
The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always.
NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Casual solo
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Sourdough Muffins
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
454
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Posted - 2014.05.04 09:41:00 -
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CCP Rouge you can go **** yourself. Let me go get you a spoon so you can eat the corn out of my ass you Icelandic fisherman ******.
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Requin Toblat
Glitched Connection
22
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Posted - 2014.05.04 10:06:00 -
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HUNK tm wrote:I don't know you Mr Gaudechon but I already feel a great frustration and a shame to... I feel ashamed to have believed in you ! Ok the game was limited by the engine and the PS3 shouldn't give a sustainable future for a mmo.
...but damn it! Why did you did that in that way to do ? Like yelling on all roofs that Dust the past, and Legion "the new great CCP project blahblahblah - super excited! ". You just crucified the last few players who was trusting you for Dust. (EVE fanboys don't count even if personally I made part of them)
Whatever you can say about your politics about Dust you know like me how that's working. SOE will not wait the game will be deserted. They'll make a end to the agony when the game will not be bankable anymore.
CCP is now loosing a part of his community. A community who grow with the game and that will never follow CCP again for most of them. That's a pity because the project was a CROSS-PLATFORM, what appended with this great idear ? You was the pioneer of this subject, why not switching for PS4? I am a PC Gamer since 8 years old, I played EVE since 8 years but look at fps on pc! Look at Planetside2 with is a total brothel (bordel like we say in France) the game is hacked at 100%.
- Aim bot - Wall hack - Level hack - Stats hack - Lobby's hacks Etc....
If you ignored this parameter I think you have nothing to do in the business. Making a character on a biaised game have no sense for me.
Excuse my english... (je vous aurais bien dit le font de ma pens+¬e en fran+ºais)
This !
My experience of PC FPS's has generally been hackers screwing it up for everyone else. |
Yan Darn
Science For Death Final Resolution.
785
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Posted - 2014.05.04 10:19:00 -
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It still seems like CCP knew Dust would be born premature and die early. I'm still no clearer as to why we were led to believe all the things that are now for Legion were coming for Dust.
Why was CPM advice about not waiting till Fanfest to annouce this ignored?
I really, really hope this is is because of an incompetent PR and marketing team (that can just be sacked and replaced) who don't grasp the simple concept that while lying and misleading customers can make profits in the short term, that CCP isn't big or rich enough to be so shady so consistently.
You need people to believe claims about Legion to invest in it.
You've made claims before and people were daft enough to believe you.
You know anytime claims about legion are made people will forever bring up the deception of Dust. Was it really worth developing such a bad PR situation with the PS community. Some PC/EVE player may be gloating, but many will still see the blatant attempt to deceive and swindle customers...
Did you or did you not know at Uprising that Dust would only ever be a lobby shooter with a skill tree?
The Ghost of Bravo
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Stan Kattel
Expert Intervention Caldari State
82
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Posted - 2014.05.04 11:14:00 -
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CCP Rouge wrote:Hi everyone,
Thank you for all of your feedback so far. I'd like to answer a few of your questions about DUST 514 and Project Legion directly given the feedback you gave me. I've picked these four points as they are coming up the most on the forums as well as in the live roundtable discussions here at Fanfest.
1) What happens to my character, skills and stuff?
If Project Legion becomes something more than a prototype, we will not leave our DUST 514 players behind. You would be able to bring your character name, applicable skills/inventory, and other elements of progression with you. We are still working on the details and we will have more to announce soon.
2) Are you completely abandoning DUST dev?
No. Without promising too much, we are actively working on stuff like balancing, Planetary Conquest, matchmaking, the in-game economy, and more. And of course we continue to work with the CPM to identify ways to improve the game.
3) Is Project Legion going to have a PS4 version? Or something for consoles?
It is still far too early to discuss platform expansion, as like you saw we are still only working on the PC prototype at this time. But the PC architecture gives us the opportunity to grow once we have a great PC product at hand. For now, though, PlayStation 4 is not something we are working on.
4) When are you going to give us more concrete information on Legion?
Again, Project Legion is still in an early stage of development but the whole idea behind giving a sneak peek at Fanfest is to get early feedback - and I really want to keep this discussion going, show you progress through dev blogs and such and listen to what you have to say.
Please post your feedback and questions in this thread - and let's keep this conversation going. The team and I will be reading this thread, and I will respond as soon as I can.
CCP Rouge This is what I see here:
CCP Rouge wrote:Hi everyone,
Thank you for all of your feedback so far. I'd like to answer a few of your questions about DUST 514 and Project Legion directly given the feedback you gave me. I've picked these four points as they are coming up the most on the forums as well as in the live roundtable discussions here at Fanfest.
1) What happens to my character, skills and stuff?
When Project Legion will be released, DUST 514 players will be, already for a long time, left behind. All your character names, applicable skills/inventory, and other elements of progression will be deleted for the sake of HDD space. We are still working on how to take you money before this happen, and we will have more to announce soon.
2) Are you completely abandoning DUST dev?
Of course! Such a silly question! But we'll run few absolutely empty patches, just to make it look like we are doing something.
3) Is Project Legion going to have a PS4 version? Or something for consoles?
I can assure you, that we don't want to see our game on consoles, simply because our target audience is annoying whiny cheating bastards, also known as "kids", and, let's be honest, we all know where to find them.
4) When are you going to give us more concrete information on Legion?
Again, Project Legion is still in an early stage of development but... Who am I kidding?! Closed beta will start in a three months, open beta - six, and full release at next fanfest.
Please post your feedback and questions in this thread - and let's keep this conversation going. Because surely we are listening what are you all saying.
CCP Rouge But, if it's true, I have a few questions:
- Who's idea was to turn Dust 514 Keynote into "announcement" of the "another"(looking absolutelly the same) game for a different platform. I'm asking this because you must look at him/her an think wisely about why he/she did this, and what was his/her plan after all. Seriously, he/she may be a saboteur or a spy, because the only reaction to "announcement of game "A" for platform "a" instead of talking about game "B'" for platform "b" during the time that marked as "we'll tell you great news about game "B"", when lots of people craving to hear news about game "B"" from most of players of game "B" would be "F.U.G.". This is a stupidly-bad marketing, or a well planned undermining of the company's authority. Think about that.
- How you'll try to compete with all-known "giants of PC gaming", if your product(I mean Dust 514 since release date) is a copy of their's... And a bad one.
And a few suggestions about "Project Legion":
- The main one. All character from Dust 514 MUST be automaticly transferred to Project Legion, if none of suggestions bellow become real.
- Release Project Legion on Xbox One and PS4(and PC, if you want your game to be full of cheaters) at the same time with fully working cross-play, and with one account for all platforms. This will drive SO MUCH attention to this game!
- Never, ever, ever, ever take another topic out of the topic-time at the FanFest without notice. PR-guys and CCP employee have much better things to do than help mods clean up CommunityRage! Do you have any idea how hard it will be to reverse that much dark magic?! :3
Playing Warframe, Killzone: SF and BF4 on PS4.
Will play Destiny and Planetside 2.
PSN ID: RusStarik
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Regis Blackbird
DUST University Ivy League
170
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Posted - 2014.05.04 11:18:00 -
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Now when the forums are "starting" to calm down from the chock (much thanks to your OP), I think it's time for some constructive feedback.
I want to point out my biggest gripe with the current immersion of Dust 514, so we don't make the same mistake in Legion, the local chat. Yes, a minuscule point (of many) with Dust 514, but the fact that we never changed chat channel proved that ourself (and our assets) never actually left the room we were stuck in at "birth".
Please make Legion the truly immersive experience I always wanted, where I feel that I actually move within the universe of New Eden. Also make sure that every game mechanic you invent to support the rapid clone jumping (including assets) are officially explained in lore.
That is all. Looking forward to see a Dev blog on the subject. |
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Kev Crow
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
43
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Posted - 2014.05.04 11:49:00 -
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tastzlike chicken wrote: It's not about the reaction. It's about how CCP treats their supporters. Your post suggests that they (possibly?) couldn't forsee the outrage at how this all came to light. I suggest to you that as a corporation it's their responsibility to forsee it, and they did, and apparently they didn't care. Frankly, this one was a no-brainer -the CPM warned them. This didn't require any hindsight at all IMO. It's that much of a no-brainer.
I tend to agree with you here, and from a PR point of view its a disaster. However personally, when my gaming expectations are let down I tend to react with less entitlement, and I bought a PS3 just to play this game. But when I see comments like: CCP just don't care, they did it by purpose, they have an ex-EA employee so now they will act like EA, they are liars and thieves, etc. I just can't help hearing the tantrums of my teenage son. I suppose that we all act like children when our expectations are let down, its only human.
What I am suggesting is this: Even if they did anticipated the community reaction with some clever PR tactic aimed at softening the unpleasant truth it wouldn't prevent the backlash of the obviously disappointed console community. No matter what CCP did to communicate this change of direction, the burned out ( toxic) community would accuse them of all kinds of atrocities and could say: you should have done it better. Because, that is the truth, they should have done better from the start - still it is only hindsight at this point.
In my business experience ( Pharmaceuticals vs Botanicals ), professional PR is more often then not designed to obscure the truth rather then serve it straight. PR is about the appearance of truth. So how many of you have met a CCP DEV? As DEVs go most of them are very genuine and ernest, sometimes almost to the point of naivet+¬ or idealism. They have a healthy dose of self-reflection and self-criticism. So yes, I would rather have a company that fumbles with their PR while being genuinely passionate about their product then some sort of professional corporation where form has overtaken substance. In fact the the decease of the modern gaming world, is all about form and delivery dates. Players have become incredibly spoiled and entitled while they consume content like greedy locust.
Remaining loyal to CCP is hard work no doubts there. It requires a more mature approach to what represents true value in the long run. Its a bumpy road but ultimately more rewarding because with time it fosters true partnership instead of entitled dependency. |
Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1504
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Posted - 2014.05.04 11:56:00 -
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Ann Brighton wrote:Please consider releasing native versions of EVE Legion for OS X and Linux too. As the Unreal Engine already supports these platforms, support shouldn't be that much overhead when considered that early in the development cycle. seriously i doubt ill transfer anyway as legion will be a ccp game and common we all know ccp.
but if it were not even capable of running on linux..i wouldnt even cut it on to laugh and watch as it dies.
A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular
Long Live the Empress
Burn the Heretics
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TheUltimateG
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
2
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Posted - 2014.05.04 11:57:00 -
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Sarcastic Dreamkiller wrote:I'm glad that sp and everything else will transfer, but I won't be playing Legion when it comes out, consider this as one customer lost.
Make that 2 customers lost....... If i wanted to play games on my PC i would never have bought a console. I'm not about to switch now. Way to take a big fat dump on the console players you sold this song and dance to. |
hold that
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2014.05.04 12:10:00 -
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knight guard fury wrote:i heard from a guy in eve redio that you couldare allowed to buy a PC with Aurum? is this true, if so then i guess that would nt be so bad for people who spent money into this game
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
423
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Posted - 2014.05.04 12:13:00 -
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Dust is for the Console players!! PS4 and XBONE or bust cause I hate Aimbots.
I want Dust to grow, but you need to go Multi platform. PS4 Xbone and PC. Things can be exclusive to different areas like maybe ship boarding can only be one console or the other and PC can have both.
Get your @#$#@# together, Give us updates to the game you have on the ground now!
Honestly, What you showed us is 1.8 assets in your original tech demo from 2009.
Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
Original ROF needs to return!
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OPNAV
MOOSE-KNUCKLEz CLAN
0
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Posted - 2014.05.04 12:33:00 -
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....The main issue here is that both management and developers at CCP are incredibly unreliable. One has ADHD the other is lazy and/or incompetent. Both make for a really bad business model. As a customer, why invest time and money in a company you know is not well organized, jumps from 1 idea to the next, and never commits to anything. Would you invest in their stock? I think not. There are plenty of competitors with their act together out there, cut your losses and find one. |
The Noob Destroyer
Pradox One Proficiency V.
684
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Posted - 2014.05.04 12:36:00 -
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OPNAV wrote:....The main issue here is that both management and developers at CCP are incredibly unreliable. One has ADHD the other is lazy and/or incompetent. Both make for a really bad business model. As a customer, why invest time and money in a company you know is not well organized, jumps from 1 idea to the next, and never commits to anything. Would you invest in their stock? I think not. There are plenty of competitors with their act together out there, cut your losses and find one. devs suck
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major faux-pas
Irish Assassins
116
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Posted - 2014.05.04 12:46:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Rouge, get this into your head. This started as a console game, and it needs to continue as a console game.
If this releases even a week earlier on PC than on the PS4, you are doing a great disservice to the community that stuck with this game for 2 years now, who were waiting for this game to become what EVE Legion is going to be.
Even if working on the PC version first will be easier, you will be abandoning the community, and consumer trust is something hard to restore. Do not repeat Incarna.
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not that CCP give a **** but I cant use pc interface due to physical limitations. Betrayal is the story of fanfest 2014 |
sektor 514
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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To saying dust / legion mmo Wouldn't work on consoles is a lie i do believe a mmo is out on the ps4 TES online where big battles happen on massive battlegrounds so big players can go exploring or doing missions i believe there has to be a players market i haven't played TES online as i Don't like sub fee
basically ccp just wanted to exploit the console gamers for money make empty promises knowing dust/legion was going to be a pc game not bothered if real dust fans can continue with the journey of what this game should have been .
If i could go back to pc gaming i would do both console wars pc wars is the most stupid terms ever i Don't care so long the game is good which to me dust was great the sense of loss when a clone died "great that a few K isk down the swany" or when you killed a proto clone the sense of " YEAHHHHH i'll put a few extra rounds in you to stop the bleed out and make sure you lose that clone
I have said with rouge and ccp choice i feel discriminated i can only be honest on how i feel about it |
Choose Your Fighter
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Posted - 2014.05.04 13:32:00 -
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L 0659 wrote:You think everything is ok because a bunch of geeks show up to your convention and applause when you fart, but real people, with half a brain, can see how you've taken peoples money, promised them the moon, then ran off to do it to the next batch of suckers.
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