Really should have been at least one reply by now, it's been a day.

What I am suggesting is this: Even if they did anticipated the community reaction with some clever PR tactic aimed at softening the unpleasant truth it wouldn't prevent the backlash of the obviously disappointed console community. No matter what CCP did to communicate this change of direction, the burned out ( toxic) community would accuse them of all kinds of atrocities and could say: you should have done it better. Because, that is the truth, they should have done better from the start - still it is only hindsight at this point.

In my business experience ( Pharmaceuticals vs Botanicals ), professional PR is more often then not designed to obscure the truth rather then serve it straight. PR is about the appearance of truth.
So how many of you have met a CCP DEV? As DEVs go most of them are very genuine and ernest, sometimes almost to the point of naivet+¬ or idealism. They have a healthy dose of self-reflection and self-criticism. So yes, I would rather have a company that fumbles with their PR while being genuinely passionate about their product then some sort of professional corporation where form has overtaken substance. In fact the decease of the modern gaming world, is all about form and delivery dates. Players have become incredibly spoiled and entitled while they consume content like greedy locust.

Remaining loyal to CCP is hard work no doubts there. It requires a more mature approach to what represents true value in the long run. Its a bumpy road but ultimately more rewarding because with time it fosters true partnership instead of entitled dependency.

Over a day later, 17 pages in, and STILL no dev responses.

I get if you don't want a discussion Rouge, but have some decency and don't say you will reply if you're not going to.

There are a lot of good questions in this thread that are calm and well written that deserve the responses you said you would give. For someone who wants to keep the player base happy, you are doing a god awful job at it.

Given the nature of the situation and the fact that they stupidly announced this in the middle of Fanfest, I think it's fair to give them 48 hours to provide a reply.

I also think it's fair to expect as comprehensive and valid response from them within a week. Tomorrow is my deadline for a response, and the week is my deadline for a complete answer.

Hi everyone,

Thank you for all of your feedback so far.
CCP Rouge

2) Are you completely abandoning DUST dev?

No. Without promising too much, we are actively working on stuff like balancing, Planetary Conquest, matchmaking, the in-game economy, and more. And of course we continue to work with the CPM to identify ways to improve the game.

Please post your feedback and questions in this thread - and let's keep this conversation going. The team and I will be reading this thread, and I will respond as soon as I can.

CCP Rouge

Time to cut the ****. Ok, they're back. The hackers. No, they aren't proto. They are hackers. Don't believe me?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NFLjWqVQZc

Now, Sony can't detect these. But they exist... And I think CCP have detected them. I honestly thought consoles were safe from hackers, but alas no. Will Legion be? Who knows, but I love when CCP slap a Banhammer on some people stealing from not only them, but you and me. I am not gonna give another cent because the rage I feel when playing these guys just isn't worth it. You know who they are. They play like crap yet somehow take ZERO damage, hiding under the 'proto' cover. Among some dubious other occurrences, always amongst the same people.

I warned them, but thanks for killing a great game. I now 'want' it to fail, just to know that your time was as worthless as mine. Scrap the whole shitepile and we'll call it a draw. I hope my money has helped developed Valkyrie and gone into some good fanfests :)

Farewell multiplayer... But I doubt it.

if you are going to start putting nails in this coffin please go out in style and bring back skirmish 1.0

since you are parting ways with us sooner than later give us any thing you have been working on bugs and all, you know what i am talking about, the other two heavy weapons, unfinished vehicles, pilot suits, ect... don't hold back at this point and don't be afraid to tell us straight up what you are planning to do with Dust 514 because you already told us about the new project on the PC. It is time for full disclosure and time for the Team and CCP Rouge to start talking to keep this conversation going, please.

I barley tolerate the PS3 OS on my network.

"Currently we are seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing. Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to se tt in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change.

We went out with a decisive strategy on pricing and we will stay the course and not flip flop around or knee jerk react to the predictable."

Honestly at this point it doesn't even matter anymore. Abandoning the console players? After the display we've seen here, being in CCP's position, I would gladly rid myself of this horrid community too.

DUST will rid itself of barely a few thousand (incessant, whiny) console players and in return gain tens of thousands of PC players. Any rational person would agree it's a smart move. Cry about it all you want, it won't change anything.

This !

My experience of PC FPS's has generally been hackers screwing it up for everyone else.

Why are console players being prohibited from entering the EVE Universe?

Rouge, get this into your head.
This started as a console game, and it needs to continue as a console game.

If this releases even a week earlier on PC than on the PS4, you are doing a great disservice to the community that stuck with this game for 2 years now, who were waiting for this game to become what EVE Legion is going to be.


Even if working on the PC version first will be easier, you will be abandoning the community, and consumer trust is something hard to restore.
Do not repeat Incarna.

where is all the stuff we were promised TWO years ago?

wait nevermind, Project legion is getting it instead of us

IN CAPS SO THIS IS UNDERSTOOD.....

MOST OF US DON'T GIVE A **** ABOUT LEGION. WE ARE CONSOLE PLAYERS NOT PC PLAYERS.

If Legion becomes a reality, we won't be transitioning to pc for it. Now, you may not care because there are some eve players that will play it and a few others. But you will definitely lose the core group of guys who have been spending hundreds of dollars on dust and helping you guys with the fps design learning curve. Now, you may say, "fugg the console players, there are plenty of pc players that we can tap into"....but then be honest about it.