Bro they are abandoning the console players. Don't give me that ******* wall of text in a try to smooth things over.
For me it's not about the money, trust me I have more than most. It's the ******* lies and al empty promises that what ppl are pissed about.

So in other words
STFU

Oh and just so you know, I lost trust in CCP in the span of 30 minutes.
The guy who spent 400+ dollars on DUST lost trust on it faster than it takes to deliever a pizza.


GG

Should they bow down to the pressure and humbly continue developing PS3 because experts like you think they should. No. Should they listen to good advice, ( like the fact that CPM has warned them how this will go down with the community) No doubt yes. Should they continue to focus on their innovative vision without compromise even if it means that the road ahead requires some very unpopular decisions. Hell yeah!

Hi everyone,

1) What happens to my character, skills and stuff?

If Project Legion becomes something more than a prototype, we will not leave our DUST 514 players behind. You would be able to bring your character name, applicable skills/inventory, and other elements of progression with you. We are still working on the details and we will have more to announce soon.

2) Are you completely abandoning DUST dev?

No. Without promising too much, we are actively working on stuff like balancing, Planetary Conquest, matchmaking, the in-game economy, and more. And of course we continue to work with the CPM to identify ways to improve the game.

3) Is Project Legion going to have a PS4 version? Or something for consoles?

It is still far too early to discuss platform expansion, as like you saw we are still only working on the PC prototype at this time. But the PC architecture gives us the opportunity to grow once we have a great PC product at hand. For now, though, PlayStation 4 is not something we are working on.

4) When are you going to give us more concrete information on Legion?

Again, Project Legion is still in an early stage of development but the whole idea behind giving a sneak peek at Fanfest is to get early feedback - and I really want to keep this discussion going, show you progress through dev blogs and such and listen to what you have to say.


CCP Rouge

Honestly at this point it doesn't even matter anymore. Abandoning the console players? After the display we've seen here, being in CCP's position, I would gladly rid myself of this horrid community too.

DUST will rid itself of barely a few thousand (incessant, whiny) console players and in return gain tens of thousands of PC players. Any rational person would agree it's a smart move. Cry about it all you want, it won't change anything.

Hi everyone,

Thank you for all of your feedback so far. I'd like to answer a few of your questions about DUST 514 and Project Legion directly given the feedback you gave me. I've picked these four points as they are coming up the most on the forums as well as in the live roundtable discussions here at Fanfest.

1) What happens to my character, skills and stuff?

If Project Legion becomes something more than a prototype, we will not leave our DUST 514 players behind. You would be able to bring your character name, applicable skills/inventory, and other elements of progression with you. We are still working on the details and we will have more to announce soon.

2) Are you completely abandoning DUST dev?

No. Without promising too much, we are actively working on stuff like balancing, Planetary Conquest, matchmaking, the in-game economy, and more. And of course we continue to work with the CPM to identify ways to improve the game.

3) Is Project Legion going to have a PS4 version? Or something for consoles?

It is still far too early to discuss platform expansion, as like you saw we are still only working on the PC prototype at this time. But the PC architecture gives us the opportunity to grow once we have a great PC product at hand. For now, though, PlayStation 4 is not something we are working on.

4) When are you going to give us more concrete information on Legion?

Again, Project Legion is still in an early stage of development but the whole idea behind giving a sneak peek at Fanfest is to get early feedback - and I really want to keep this discussion going, show you progress through dev blogs and such and listen to what you have to say.

Please post your feedback and questions in this thread - and let's keep this conversation going. The team and I will be reading this thread, and I will respond as soon as I can.

CCP Rouge

That sounds like something. The "applicable" does concern me though. So does that mean that I won't get SP transferred over I spent in say Commando Suits, if the commando suits are not in the Project Legion when it launches?

Also the question of how BPOs would convert is very important. Some exclusive Dropsuits only for people having bought these BPOs in Dust would be nice. But if tha's a no can do I would like to see the Aurum I spent on these BPOs on my character in Legion. BPOs are the second biggest question during the transferring because this is stuff many of us spent hundreds of Gé¼ / $ / whatever on.

I'll wait for what you have to announce. Until then I won't play Dust.

And do us all a favor: Have answers like these ready the next time you decide to make a decision as severe as this one.

2. Most of the development team have been moved AWAY from developing DUST on PS3, and are creating Legion instead. We're basically on a skeleton crew while the new toy gets all the attention. DUST was meant to be a persistent, constantly-evolving world. It was MEANT to evolve with the technology we play it on. It WASN'T meant to be locked into a holding pattern while a sequel is built to take the reins. They should have kept a SIGNIFICANT part of the team working on DUST and developing new content, while the new team works on SLOWLY building the new game for the new platform. If possible, they should make a gradual transition plan to ease players from the PS3 version of DUST into the PC version. Having "Legion" as the new, updated build for DUST, but including some features the PS3 is simply not capable of (regardless of whether it's actually the limitations of the system itself or just CCP's dev team not being able to make it work), and saying "when you upgrade to the PC version, you'll have access to X, Y and Z as well!" would have been good.

@ Garrett. All valid points. And I agree especially with this:



That is why I am trying to present an approach based on acceptance rather then hostility, aimed at moving forward. CCP needs to hear our constructive input so they don't blow it this time... The very last keynote, CCP presents, was very indicative of their new direction and what they meant by staying focused but I think there is definitely some space for a compromise that includes the existing console community.

The developers are already familiar with the hardware and design capabilities for PC as that's how EVE has been built. Its all native to them. The transition to a console platform requires much more work than simply pushing a button.

I have faith that if eve can exist with it's complexity than so too can DUST be reborn with all the depth we expect.

Honestly at this point it doesn't even matter anymore. Abandoning the console players? After the display we've seen here, being in CCP's position, I would gladly rid myself of this horrid community too.

DUST will rid itself of barely a few thousand (incessant, whiny) console players and in return gain tens of thousands of PC players. Any rational person would agree it's a smart move. Cry about it all you want, it won't change anything.

Then you're pretty naive.

Just because you know how to code and program a glorified multiplayer point and click fest (I.e Eve online), it doesn't mean you have the skills or even a basic idea of squeezing out a complex first person shooter.

Everything in Eve Online is pretty basic in terms of programmer and animation.

Oh, CCP. Way to throw the old curve ball :) There are already a bunch of newcomers flocking to Dust to start training with all these cheap PS3's flying around. How could we doubt you?

Edit: Just re-reading this and I sound sarcastic, but there really seems to be more new players.

CCP could show it appreciate this playerbase by making a stripped down version of Legion on PS3. It's good for keeping a playerbase and good for the CCP brand.