Have you been looking at some other information the rest of us don't have which confirms continued development? And does that information also confirm that they're going to be at all prompt about even the basic long-overdue improvements to PC and other potentially game-breaking flaws?

How do I know if they will continue to tweak their PS3 project? To be honest I am just guessing based on my experience with CCP over the last 8 years. On DUST I was here from beta and have seen scores of unresolved issues. CCP could spend thousands in optimizing on this platform but the signs of difficulties of making it work on the PS3 have been here for a while. Remember Uprising 1.0? I guess what I am say is that it will not get much worst then it already is. Perhaps even better since there will not be any major releases but rather smaller patches dedicated to a better game play. I mean why not, keeping the console community around is in their best interest because no matter what people say I think PS4 is a must at some point.

the legion prototype looked 100 times better than dust, can't wait for it to be released, CCP is making a good move and I am so glad that 99% of the ppl QQing here won't return, this game was always too good for the ps3 and pretty much all of you.

You are a joke.

the legion prototype looked 100 times better than dust, can't wait for it to be released, CCP is making a good move and I am so glad that 99% of the ppl QQing here won't return, this game was always too good for the ps3 and pretty much all of you.

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The DUST prototypes looked about the same amount better than actual DUST does now.

For that matter, pre-Uprising DUST looked better in many ways than DUST does now.

I for one am looking forward to a PC version of DUST. Few hardware constraints, better controls, quicker updates and all that brings.

I can understand the resentment felt by the DUST community, especially how we found out about Legion, as someone that sunk a good year of my play time into DUST and spent circa -ú500 on the game you would think I would be bitter too... I'm not. Consoles would never provide a meaningful experience that CCP was hoping to achieve and for that they should apologise for that in some way, but do I want a refund of the cash I spent? No.

If Legion takes all the good things from DUST and adds in all the things we wanted (such as a proper economy as per EvE), then Legion will be awesome.

Yeah probably because it was presented via a PC and not an 8 year old crapsole.

Unless, of course, the whole Legion thing gets either scrapped or reworked into what it SHOULD have been all along - a reboot/re-release of DUST with the core content we were promised all along ALREADY IN PLACE BEFORE RELEASE THIS TIME. And yes, the PS3 should be able to handle what they want to do, and they SHOULD be making a PS3 version of the initial Legion client, as well as PS4 and maybe (ONLY MAYBE, NOT DEFINITELY) a PC release alongside them.

the legion prototype looked 100 times better than dust, can't wait for it to be released, CCP is making a good move and I am so glad that 99% of the ppl QQing here won't return, this game was always too good for the ps3 and pretty much all of you.

the legion prototype looked 100 times better than dust, can't wait for it to be released, CCP is making a good move and I am so glad that 99% of the ppl QQing here won't return, this game was always too good for the ps3 and pretty much all of you.

This forum is for Dust 514. So why are 3 of the 4 questions/answers about a game that is not Dust 514?

CCP, can you stop shoving Legion down our throats? Make a new section for that game or something if you want, but can this area be for Dust discussion only please? Even if that means nothing else is said.

Yeah probably because it was presented via a PC and not an 8 year old crapsole.

The only way I'd be happy about transferring over to Legion would be:


If Legion is not free and is based on the same system as eve is with subscriptions then dust players would be excluded (lifetime subscription) as a "thank you" for running Legion's Beta for that last 3 years. If it's free than all AUR spent in dust would be refunded onto legion. Bonus AUR would do well too.

Dust players would receive kickass BPO's. And i dont mean your run of the mill Militia gear with a fancy paint job. At least advanced gear. An officer bpo wouldn't go astray as an "I'm sorry for the kick in the teeth" you gave us. This gear would be excluded to dust mercs only and would never be available to anyone in any future ingame events or on the market.

First to have Alpha and Beta Access even if its a day or 2 before EVE Players.

Transfer of all sp and bpo from dust to legion

these exclusives wouldn't be too far fetched (maybe the officer bpo, but 100 copies of each officer weapon would do).


So look I know CCP has screwed up alot with this community. The trust is gone, The only way i can see any kind of redemption would be to give us most of the above and give dust mercs full acknowledgment of the work they did for this Beta (and lets face it dust was always a beta), like give us a Monument in legion and eve with everyone's names on it.

I really do think that PS4 is a very real possibility now, i.e. a reboot. What people must realise and what is hard to accept for the understandably disappointed console players is that by succeeding with Legion on their own platform, a PC, CCP is more likely to successfully expand to other platforms.

As far as DUST 514 being handled well by the PS3 and its network I simply do not agree, and have a completely different experience. I actually stopped playing because my PS3 got overheated and crushed too many times. Plus the network froze daily. I guess if it was another MAG or COD type game it could definitely be handled by PS3 but a game that is suppose to work in conjunction with the EVE cluster, no way... They would have to scrap all their plans for a meaningful interaction between the two games. FW and PC is all that they where able to combine and in a very limited way at that. If they tried to merged the markets plus add PVE , LOL the whole system would just melt.

if we cant have a player market at least can we swap salvage betwen char on the same account.
when i run my proto minlogi i recieve hmg's for salvage??
when i run my gall heavey i recieve proto repair tools?
if a player market cant be done on ps3 can we have someway of doing something with the salvage that will never be used on the character that recieved it

I concur, CCP has lost a lot of credit now, for some people the rift CCP have caused will be irreparable, but the least they can do is make it up to us.

First thing they need to do is anyone who has biomassed since the keynote needs to be moved to an alternate doomheim named lazurus, allow anyone who biomassed themselves to be 'ressurected' without consequence, whenever they want.

Ensure a memorial wall is placed somewhere in legacy with the name of EVERY Dust 514 player active at the time of fanfest.
This memorial should be placed somewhere central, where Dust Players can take pride.

Personally invite EVERY Dust player to the closed beta, all of us, every single one.

Finally a written apology, that says the way they handled this was wrong

I support going to PC and renaming from odd name (WTF 514 means???) to something more EVE consistent (EVE Legion)

Don't really see that happening. Dust was always CCP's pet project, but their offspring is EVE. Everything else is secondary, so I won't be surprised if nothing like this happens.

That said, I completely agree with you.

I support going to PC and renaming from odd name (WTF 514 means???)

Thank you for all of your feedback so far.