That's EXACTLY what i'm saying, Why PC players would play Legion while they already have that much Shooters and F2P shooters which are 10000x better than Legion will ever be ?

FPS and F2P are way too installed on PC, from what i've saw Legion have NOTHING for him. Graphics ? Nope agianst PC FPS. Gameplay ? Let me laugh. Teamplay ? :laugh:

From what i see you're not showing "Potential Players" You're showing potential concurrence.

PS4 is a PC architecture with a Sony Label on it That's it.
So in fact you could devellop for both plateform.

You want it on PC : Well, NO WAY.

Start working on PS4 and NOT in PC that's pretty simple.
Starting dev on the wrong plateform and it will be too late to change. PC is THE wrong plateform.
You will be wrecked.
You will lose all your base community, hacks will come (All the F2P on PC are full of hacks.) , and you will NEVER come to the other PC shooters level.

Will Legion be sticking with the static X vs X instanced battles that Dust features or will it be open world, similar to Planetside and its sequel?

Actually... I stand corrected. This is actually a major question I would like some insight on... at least from an "intent" standpoint.

Nothing new in this thread, you are just repeating what we already know.

PS4 version should be the priority, not PC, the company is already working on PS4 with Valkirye, what is the problem with a PS4 version of Legion?

I don't care to lose SP, isk or my stuff, i just want to play the game, but if it's gonna be on PC, i simply can't afford to buy a gaming PC for a game.
While I and a lot of other people here are willing to buy a PS4 and continue our experience on this game.

We feel betrayed, because we, the dust community, have played for more then 1 year to dust and you have used us, to acquire feedback to create a game for the EVE community not for the DUST community.
We have been your guinea pigs.
So please, take a step back and develop for both PC and PS4.

I'm sure that this will be one of more quiet answer you will read in this thread, again please, take your player base in consideration.

lolwut?

"PC and PS4 are the same"
"You can easily develop for both"
"therefore, only develop for PS4"

LOGIC.

You may want to reassess the validity of your entire concept of how posting opinions on the internet works, because you got every step wrong with this attempt. Improving your basic spelling and grammar is also probably a good idea. But the main thing is that when you're trying to make a point, make sure your supporting arguments don't entirely negate the point they're building up to. That's just going to get you laughed at even by people on the same side of the argument as yourself.

No, this is NOT what CCP should be doing.

-Making Project Legion as a reboot of DUST, and releasing it on PS3 and PS4, with possible consideration for a PC version as well? Yes.

-Scrapping proper support for DUST (new content, NOT just the bug fixes we needed 6 months ago) and starting over with a PC exclusive version of what we were promised on PS3? No way.

But that doesn't make the above-quoted attempt at a reason why any more valid. The right conclusion without anything even resembling competent reason is still a hilariously bad attempt at an argument, even though it's after the right end result.

Rouge, get this into your head.
This started as a console game, and it needs to continue as a console game.

If this releases even a week earlier on PC than on the PS4, you are doing a great disservice to the community that stuck with this game for 2 years now, who were waiting for this game to become what EVE Legion is going to be.


Even if working on the PC version first will be easier, you will be abandoning the community, and consumer trust is something hard to restore.
Do not repeat Incarna.

what about ps4??.. like i said its in the pc level now... am not saying that the game shouldn't be on pc i understand what their doing but why not ps4, thats what am thinking

CCP Rouge, answer me this:
How are the promises on the features of Legion any different than the promises on the features of Dust last year or the year before?

You think you can do on PC what you were not able to do on the PS3. I don't think the additional RAM is going to help you unscrew planetary conquest, have better map designers or become better at balancing the game. My personal take on everything I've heard from you, CCP Rouge, is lies. Intentional lies. I just have no idea for what purpose.

Without spite this is my honest opinion. Does this help you understand the situation? I hope it does. Looking forward to your honest answer.

Just like Cat Merc said, it is the console aspect that is highly concerning to a large portion of us here.

If you tell me my character will move over with all the SP and everything, yeah ok that's fine, but if it's not on PS4 and keep in mind, that's why I originally signed onto Dust in the first place because it was ON A CONSOLE, then what is the point of me continuing in Dust??? I use a pair of MacBooks for work, and I have no doubt that Legion won't run on them considering I only have a certain amount of hardware space available in them. I am not going to go out and buy another computer just so I can go run another version of Dust which was originally supposed to be on a console.

Is Dust 514 dead on ps3 or is it changing from original thoughts from the beginning but staying.

Whats up with all you people being able to afford a PS4 but saing you're not able to afford a decent PC. That doesn't make any sense. Do a reality check on how expensive a decent PC is please and don't buy everything from alienware. PC or PS4 doesn't matter at all. I expected a PS4 version too, but CCP decided on PC for obvious reasons (Test server, no patch delays because Sony wants to check every patch). And I think that's good. You would have to buy a new platform anyways. You want to keep playing Dust (now called Legion) you just spent your 400 bucks on a PC instead of a PS4. Problem - solved.

I'm now just interested in what CCP has in mind for transferring the chars over. This will decide it for me.

My main question is why build a player base on console, and then shift to at totally different platform of PC? Yes, I understand that you all at CCP are far more adept at designing games on PC (EVE), but to build a community on one platform and then "jump ship" is just horrid.

An example would be as if the HALO franchise decided to jump from Xbox to PC abandoning the Xbox player base as development slowed to a crawl for Xbox HALO and development for PC HALO soared to new heights.

Did you only view us as "Legion Beta Testers" for the failed vision (on console) that WAS DUST 514? If Legion was meant to be on PC, why even take the DUST 514 console step? Why not immediately begin work on Legion on PC in the first place without the need for DUST 514 to even exist?

Whats up with all you people being able to afford a PS4 but saing you're not able to afford a decent PC. That doesn't make any sense. Do a reality check on how expensive a decent PC is please and don't buy everything from alienware. PC or PS4 doesn't matter at all. I expected a PS4 version too, but CCP decided on PC for obvious reasons (Test server, no patch delays because Sony wants to check every patch). And I think that's good. You would have to buy a new platform anyways. You want to keep playing Dust (now called Legion) you just spent your 400 bucks on a PC instead of a PS4. Problem - solved.

I'm now just interested in what CCP has in mind for transferring the chars over. This will decide it for me.

Hi everyone,

Thank you for all of your feedback so far. I'd like to answer a few of your questions about DUST 514 and Project Legion directly given the feedback you gave me. I've picked these four points as they are coming up the most on the forums as well as in the live roundtable discussions here at Fanfest.

1) What happens to my character, skills and stuff?

If Project Legion becomes something more than a prototype, we will not leave our DUST 514 players behind. You would be able to bring your character name, applicable skills/inventory, and other elements of progression with you. We are still working on the details and we will have more to announce soon.

2) Are you completely abandoning DUST dev?

No. Without promising too much, we are actively working on stuff like balancing, Planetary Conquest, matchmaking, the in-game economy, and more. And of course we continue to work with the CPM to identify ways to improve the game.

3) Is Project Legion going to have a PS4 version? Or something for consoles?

It is still far too early to discuss platform expansion, as like you saw we are still only working on the PC prototype at this time. But the PC architecture gives us the opportunity to grow once we have a great PC product at hand. For now, though, PlayStation 4 is not something we are working on.

4) When are you going to give us more concrete information on Legion?

Again, Project Legion is still in an early stage of development but the whole idea behind giving a sneak peek at Fanfest is to get early feedback - and I really want to keep this discussion going, show you progress through dev blogs and such and listen to what you have to say.

Please post your feedback and questions in this thread - and let's keep this conversation going. The team and I will be reading this thread, and I will respond as soon as I can.

CCP Rouge