For Tanks being a "dead breed" you guys sure do QQ a awful lot and always get 10+ pages easy of QQ. God mode is fine as is. I see corps bringing in 3 tanks and putting up good fights. Even with all the AV Tanks are more than fine if anything nerfs are in order.

For Tanks being a "dead breed" you guys sure do QQ a awful lot and always get 10+ pages easy of QQ. God mode is fine as is. I see corps bringing in 3 tanks and putting up good fights. Even with all the AV Tanks are more than fine if anything nerfs are in order.

I gotta weight in on this. As someone who runs primarily AV, tanks HAVE TO BE VULNERABLE. Proto tanks were incredibly hard to kill,

Stopped reading there

Never had proto tanks, you dont know what you are talking about

Jesus you guys are petty. Substitute Marauder for proto in his statement if you need to feel better.

You refuse to debate someone without them using your terms, so that you can highlight what you consider to be your plight.

I am starting to understand why Blam committed seppuku, just to get away from you guys.

Awesome suggestions here. My recent additions:

I lose 1 tank/6 pubs and break even. Much more in PC. Sometimes I'll lose five but that's to other really good tankers...and they'll lose six. Lol.

It's true, with what the best tankers due, now, we would never die in real proto tanks except to eachother but that's no different than the very best AR players BC they play very smart.

The argument that we can't have nice things BC we will solo stomp new berries is a match making issue and would solve itself if they stopped putting us against guys with 750k SP when we have ten or more million. The acady should cut off at 6mil but that's another issue.

If tanks get buffed, AV needs to get WP and ISk based on the damage they throw at them. (10k ISK/1k damage) I want any tank fixes to benefit av just as much. This way, just holding a tank bank will be worth time.

Example is good and there is no reason to punish him or any of us for our skill.

Why didn't they buff AV instead of nerfing tanks? just make vehicles like they were in Chromo (but no invincible soma!) (this means fixing PG! so we can use our heavy shield reppers and extenders or 180 mm plates and heavy reppers with out 3 complex PG modules) Advanced tanks would be nice as well.

Jesus you guys are petty. Substitute Marauder for proto

^^ claims to be a tanker but takes an infantry sided view. Face palm.

Stopped reading there

Marauder was never proto, you dont know what you are talking about

Criticising someone for looking at a topic from different point of views and being open minded. I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

Right now, one proto AV player doesn't pose a threat and can be killed alone, two AV guys force you to retreat and might kill you (depends on you), three have good chances to kill you and four AV player seal your fate.
-> Perfectly fine.

AV guys have to run around with sidearm vs your normal infantry (forget about Commando suits).

Never said it was. I said substitute the use of the word proto with Marauder.

Thanks for trying to troll, but you should get past basic english comprehension before attempting to play.

No wonder you guys can't get CCP to help buff your stuff, you can't even figure out how to deconstruct a sentence let alone concepts like game balance.

You cant sub it in

The whole post was based on this mythical proto tank the OP was harping on about and going against

Your solution was subbing in Marauder for proto

Ergo Marauder = Proto

Ergo you still fail

And tge atoury there has dissagreed with every other tanker I know.

Im sorry what planet are you on?? Proto av not standing a chance lol your as high as I am. And tge atoury there has dissagreed with every other tanker I know. And dont give me the av not standing a chance against infantry because they are restricted to a side arm . I melt plenty of mercs with my toxin smg and I know many av players who are better than some assaults at getting killswith their side arm.

I'm sorry, what did you read there?
I said AV makes sacrifices to be effective against vehicles (besides AV grenades, they are small sacrifices), so let them. Don't tell me you will **** every Assault, Sniper or Heavy, you are food for them. Why the **** do you want to beat the whole enemy team alone as tank? I'm happy to kill all those DSs, LAVs and one-shot every infantry. Don't need god mode.

What the ****? You comment is wrong on every level. Right now for me it is like this:
One proto AV won't kill me, he dies instantly to my railgun.
Two proto AV force me to retreat at least, if I **** up I die.
Three proto AV: Okay, fk, fk, fk
Four proto:gg

Why isn't this fine?

What the ****? You comment is wrong on every level. Right now for me it is like this:
One proto AV won't kill me, he dies instantly to my railgun.
Two proto AV force me to retreat at least, if I **** up I die.
Three proto AV: Okay, fk, fk, fk
Four proto:gg

Why isn't this fine?

Every single infantry player and AV'er seems to think like this:

"Every tank must be soloable by militia AV."

What if we tankers suddenly started asking for:

"Every dropsuit with an AV weapon must be killed by one militia AR bullet."

Because that's what you're trying to do: trying to nerf us to extinction. It's not enough for you that our current STD tanks can be 3 shotted by PRO AV? For shield tankers, they especially get the shaft because armor tanks are better, which means they have to be aware for both AV and armor tanks.

It seems that whenever tanks above STD level are brought into question, every infantry player tries to nerf vehicles. But when it comes to proto pubstomping, you only complain about matchmaking . You don't call for nerfs on proto suits and proto weapons. So don't talk away ideas about ADV and PRO vehicles, because in reality it's matchmaking that's at fault.

I say, fix matchmaking, bring in ADV and PRO vehicles, and balance shield and armor between tanks.

Perhaps you're lucky and the AV people you come across are not as skilled.

Otherwise, Madrugars get destroyed by 3-4 proto SL volleys and Gunnlogis get destroyed by 4 proto assault FG shots. So, therefore, one single proto AV can solo our current tanks without needing to reload. Nanohive and AV grenade spam is just bull****.