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Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.07.18 19:23:00 -
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im trying to speak for the average tanker, but it seems that's impossible without everyone questioning how I personally drive them. |
ZDub 303
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Posted - 2013.07.18 19:24:00 -
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Stinker Butt wrote:So your argument is basically that when you dominated with a militia tank you thought it was "balanced," but when you lost it later to a proto anti-vehicle player, you were sad and things started to seem unbalanced. You may not be a tanker, but you sure think like one.
Tankers seem to think that they're not supposed to die and that is balance. They got spoiled in chromosome and then the "easy kill" button got taken away. Even if the change is only temporary, they cry constantly. You're a clone, and you're supposed to die in this game.
If your AVers are forgers, they will always have difficulty with LLAV's. I played most of the day yesterday and took out every LLAV I played against. I can't say the same for the tanks, but I play solo.
PC battles are a completely different scenario. Mostly organized, AV and Vehicle, lots of support. I won't believe tanks are as useless as so many claim until they stop showing up in multiple numbers to every match. If you tankers really want to teach ccp how bad they are, stop using them.
Dominated? Lol I went like 4-5 kills and 0-1 deaths/tanks lost in those games. I stuck around on the outskirts and picked off stragglers and always remained behind my blueberry infantry. I was actually trying to remain as a force multiplier, esp since my tank was so weak. I would literally run when I saw 2+ infantry as I knew i didn't stand a chance.
I'll admit im no super tanker, and militia swarms were wrecking my soma.. but I could at least respond and get out of the situation if it was too much. If I come up against adv/pro swarms in my tank right now... no way im escaping.. its already over. Its two shots even when repping. But i'm fine with that... It was a tank with almost no SP dedicated to it.
I can get about 4-5x as many kills in my proto logi build than I can in a tank... so no.. im not whining that I should be OP. I am almost always on the recieving end of tanks, and I can say... they are ****. In chromosome if you saw a tank you needed to worry about it and find a way to take it down, in uprising... they are free WPs and thats it.
Can you imagine when matchmaking is finally released? A well fitted tank right now may be able to do some pubstomping against an unorganized team with some decent players and most bad players... but what happens when a tanker with 12+ mil SP is placed in a game where all 16 players on the other team have 10+ million SP and 8+ of them have proto AV? Tankers won't stand a chance, period. Even with a price reduction whats the point? You won't be doing anything.
And still... it doesn't change the fact that there is AV weaponry progression from std to officer and there is absolutely no tank progression. If proto tanks were to be such a problem, thats an issue with tank balance. But saying... oh the milita noobs don't like dying to tanks... lets make sure we have 2 more tiers of AV than tanks at all times? wtf seriously? |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 20:29:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:im trying to speak for the average tanker, but it seems that's impossible without everyone questioning how I personally drive them.
This^
When all of you talk about tanks being too powerful, you're talking about an amount of the tank population that can be counted on 3 hands. The rest get soloed a lot by proto AV. It isn't fair to the tankers who are not the absolute cream of the crop. How would you infantry feel if you had to have 16 mil SP and have THE BEST TACTICS in the game to be efficient and make money? |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.07.18 20:42:00 -
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on a side note:
the turrets both small and large just got a price increase, I noticed because the 80GJ compressed Particle Cannon was increased from 400K to almost 1 million ISK by itself |
Casius Hakoke
Fenrir's Wolves
RUST415
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Posted - 2013.07.18 20:45:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:on a side note:
the turrets both small and large just got a price increase, I noticed because the 80GJ compressed Particle Cannon was increased from 400K to almost 1 million ISK by itself
TODAY? That's insane! |
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.18 20:46:00 -
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Casius Hakoke wrote:Void Echo wrote:on a side note:
the turrets both small and large just got a price increase, I noticed because the 80GJ compressed Particle Cannon was increased from 400K to almost 1 million ISK by itself TODAY? That's insane!
old news. happened months ago. when uprising came. |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.07.18 20:47:00 -
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check the market place and find out for yourself |
Casius Hakoke
Fenrir's Wolves
RUST415
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Posted - 2013.07.18 20:48:00 -
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I'll check my HAV restock prices when I get on tonight, I don't have the prices for the cannons memorized right now like I used to pre uprising. But I do know the over all cost of my HAV's. |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.07.18 20:49:00 -
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Casius Hakoke wrote:Void Echo wrote:on a side note:
the turrets both small and large just got a price increase, I noticed because the 80GJ compressed Particle Cannon was increased from 400K to almost 1 million ISK by itself TODAY? That's insane! old news. happened months ago. when uprising came.
not really dude, I never saw the price increased until now, the whole time when I went to the market the price for my cannon was always around 400K, it was never nearly 1 million |
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.18 20:51:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Casius Hakoke wrote:Void Echo wrote:on a side note:
the turrets both small and large just got a price increase, I noticed because the 80GJ compressed Particle Cannon was increased from 400K to almost 1 million ISK by itself TODAY? That's insane! old news. happened months ago. when uprising came. not really dude, I never saw the price increased until now, the whole time when I went to the market the price for my cannon was always around 400K, it was never nearly 1 million
it has always been like tht dude. i've been buying these overpriced things for my tanks since the uprising build. |
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TITANIC Xangore
Subdreddit
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Posted - 2013.07.18 21:02:00 -
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:Your points are not valid. You made up an imaginary issue of people stacking damage mods. People cant fit one let alone stack them. Your madrugar is no doubt forced to use a pg extended in your main HP slot. On what world is that cool? Caldari must use both lows for them. Giving us 0 freedom on fits.
There is a best fit for caldari and something very close to it for gallente. This should not be.
HHAHAHAH I'm fairly new to the game and i can stack basic damage mods on my dropsuit. I have people in corp that are stacking complex damage mods 2-3 at a time. It happens, a lot. yes we can run PG extenders, but that's because there isn't enough PG to keep our tanks survivable without one, and it sacrifices an armor slot to even fit one one it. |
TITANIC Xangore
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Posted - 2013.07.18 21:05:00 -
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Alpha 443-6732 wrote:I swear to god. If you truly don't believe me, then hit me up so we can do some 1v1 fox only no items final destination.
Are...are you just putting random words together to try to form sentences now? |
The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.07.18 21:10:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Casius Hakoke wrote:Void Echo wrote:on a side note:
the turrets both small and large just got a price increase, I noticed because the 80GJ compressed Particle Cannon was increased from 400K to almost 1 million ISK by itself TODAY? That's insane! old news. happened months ago. when uprising came. not really dude, I never saw the price increased until now, the whole time when I went to the market the price for my cannon was always around 400K, it was never nearly 1 million
Claims to be the source on tanking, doesn't know cannon costs.
Lol. |
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.18 21:12:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Void Echo wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Casius Hakoke wrote:Void Echo wrote:on a side note:
the turrets both small and large just got a price increase, I noticed because the 80GJ compressed Particle Cannon was increased from 400K to almost 1 million ISK by itself TODAY? That's insane! old news. happened months ago. when uprising came. not really dude, I never saw the price increased until now, the whole time when I went to the market the price for my cannon was always around 400K, it was never nearly 1 million Claims to be the source on tanking, doesn't know cannon costs. Lol.
claims to have good advice on tanks and has only been using them for a couple of months.  |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.07.18 21:38:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Void Echo wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Casius Hakoke wrote:Void Echo wrote:on a side note:
the turrets both small and large just got a price increase, I noticed because the 80GJ compressed Particle Cannon was increased from 400K to almost 1 million ISK by itself TODAY? That's insane! old news. happened months ago. when uprising came. not really dude, I never saw the price increased until now, the whole time when I went to the market the price for my cannon was always around 400K, it was never nearly 1 million Claims to be the source on tanking, doesn't know cannon costs. Lol.
claims to know better than every other tank driver even though hes only been doing so for a months or 2 LOL |
ZDub 303
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:08:00 -
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One thing they could probably patch in right away that would help tankers at least a little is to make the small turrets optional like sidearms are for assault suits. |
Blammmo
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:14:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:One thing they could probably patch in right away that would help tankers at least a little is to make the small turrets optional like sidearms are for assault suits.
Never happen, it's been begged for already |
Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:19:00 -
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Reduce PG by 10% for tanks 5% for DS'es and 15% for LAVs and re-instate PG skill (allowing skilled vehicle users to get 15% more tank PG 20% more DS PG and 10% more LAV PG) messing with Modules to achieve the same effect would be nice too but making Vehicle Engineering useful would help not a waste of SP.
Give 5 pre-fit militia tanks, DS'es,and 10 LAV's to all new players to let them test out Vehicles.
making small turrets optional would help too but in LAVs and DSes too |
ZDub 303
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:29:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Reduce PG by 10% for tanks 5% for DS'es and 15% for LAVs and re-instate PG skill (allowing skilled vehicle users to get 15% more tank PG 20% more DS PG and 10% more LAV PG) messing with Modules to achieve the same effect would be nice too but making Vehicle Engineering useful would help not a waste of SP.
Give 5 pre-fit militia tanks, DS'es,and 10 LAV's to all new players to let them test out Vehicles.
making small turrets optional would help too but in LAVs and DSes too
Or they could just change it to 3% per level and leave everything else as it is. |
Killar-12
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:32:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Reduce PG by 10% for tanks 5% for DS'es and 15% for LAVs and re-instate PG skill (allowing skilled vehicle users to get 15% more tank PG 20% more DS PG and 10% more LAV PG) messing with Modules to achieve the same effect would be nice too but making Vehicle Engineering useful would help not a waste of SP.
Give 5 pre-fit militia tanks, DS'es,and 10 LAV's to all new players to let them test out Vehicles.
making small turrets optional would help too but in LAVs and DSes too Or they could just change it to 3% per level and leave everything else as it is.
I like this, my methana would be fine, so yeah.
Return our PG Skill! |
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Onikanabo Brigade
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:47:00 -
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bump. |
Neb M'kay
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.07.19 00:00:00 -
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There appears to be a very important fault missing from this petition. Why is it that an Eve pilot can not move their pod into a ship that lack the skills or equipment for, yet any random bluedot can steal a vehicle of which they do not have the skills for? I do support this petition and continue to strive to remain positive but after losing a 2.5mil ISK Vayu to a random bluedot, I'm losing my patients for this major fault.
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Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.19 00:03:00 -
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Yo.
Just want to tell you folks you're not being ignored.
I don't have any details I can share, but some stuff's in the works from what I'm hearing.
As a fellow vehicle bro, I'll do what I can to make sure whatever that stuff is makes things suck less :)
Keep the faith! |
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.19 00:05:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:Yo.
Just want to tell you folks you're not being ignored.
I don't have any details I can share, but some stuff's in the works from what I'm hearing.
As a fellow vehicle bro, I'll do what I can to make sure whatever that stuff is makes things suck less :)
Keep the faith!
well it's a start thanks for telling us something. 
Now for some dev tags to get in this thread.  |
PsychoLogiKal PsyDrei
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Posted - 2013.07.19 00:16:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Void Echo wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Void Echo wrote:on a side note:
the turrets both small and large just got a price increase, I noticed because the 80GJ compressed Particle Cannon was increased from 400K to almost 1 million ISK by itself old news. happened months ago. when uprising came. not really dude, I never saw the price increased until now, the whole time when I went to the market the price for my cannon was always around 400K, it was never nearly 1 million Claims to be the source on tanking, doesn't know cannon costs. Lol. claims to know better than every other tank driver even though hes only been doing so for a months or 2 LOL
You sir are the one who made an ass out of yourself by saying every time you went to the market they were only 400k, as EVERY serious tanker knows the cost of each one of the turrets that they use on a regular basis. So you are someone who JUST got access to Compressed Cannons or an idiot who talks trash without knowing about a thing he is talking about.
They both kinda go hand in hand though since all this time since May 15th you've thought they were just 400k |
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.19 02:19:00 -
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bump |
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Posted - 2013.07.19 03:03:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:Yo.
Just want to tell you folks you're not being ignored.
I don't have any details I can share, but some stuff's in the works from what I'm hearing.
As a fellow vehicle bro, I'll do what I can to make sure whatever that stuff is makes things suck less :)
Keep the faith!
Thanks for keeping us informed as best you can. We are getting closer to where we need to be and will refuse to stop until the average tanker with 7m sp in tanks can call in a gunlogi or maddy with STD gear and profit over the course of their career, without being REALLY good. that being said, tanks cant be win buttons. I want bad tankers to splode in 1 min like they did in chromo while the A-list guys are indomitable (that's about 20 guys total, or less) |
Eurydice Itzhak
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.07.19 03:16:00 -
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With the comment from nova knife and the alleged "big" vehicle changes in 1.4, I will quiet myself on this matter. Can't botched about what might be getting fixed. Or do we keep crying so they stay focused?
Is anyone else excited to have a proto suit to walk around the warbarge in? |
Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training
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Posted - 2013.07.19 03:55:00 -
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:
This post is about tanks. Vehicles. Not dropsuits.
I have never seen anyone in TEST post anything remotely on point.
I've never seen anyone in TEST thats human, Dreddit or Subdreddit
JK still a minor PG fix making the skill useful even if it is less useful than in Chromo |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.07.19 05:15:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:Yo.
Just want to tell you folks you're not being ignored.
I don't have any details I can share, but some stuff's in the works from what I'm hearing.
As a fellow vehicle bro, I'll do what I can to make sure whatever that stuff is makes things suck less :)
Keep the faith!
finally, a higher up posts here, not we need to get the direct attention from the blue tags |
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