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General John Ripper
The Generals EoN.
1808
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:58:00 -
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I want to sign but I also want my name to be in bold like all the cool guys at the top. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
418
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:09:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:I want to sign but I also want my name to be in bold like all the cool guys at the top.
Or just be like Charlotte and get all your alts to sign.
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Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
714
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:11:00 -
[273] - Quote
The Attorney General wrote:General John Ripper wrote:I want to sign but I also want my name to be in bold like all the cool guys at the top. Or just be like Charlotte and get all your alts to sign.
that's a little too far dude |
ImpureMort
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
132
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:12:00 -
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we never had proto tanks not once |
Medic 1879
Tritan's Onslaught rise of legion
688
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:14:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Harpyja wrote: Perhaps you're lucky and the AV people you come across are not as skilled.
Otherwise, Madrugars get destroyed by 3-4 proto SL volleys and Gunnlogis get destroyed by 4 proto assault FG shots. So, therefore, one single proto AV can solo our current tanks without needing to reload. Nanohive and AV grenade spam is just bull****.
Don't you have reps and hardeners? When I see six missiles get fired(seeing them is another issue that is not tank specific) I don't mess around and keep going forward. I hit the repper, activate the hardeners and report to my infantry on where the AV troops are and quickly figure out how to get my infantry into contact with those AV guys. I routinely survive whole clips from Ishukone Assault forges without issue, and because I am aware of their range, normally by the time the fourth is fired I am at the extreme of their range or out of their sight. You know the great thing about the whole nanohive AV nade thing? You can hear them throw the hive down before they get started. If you are having that much trouble from nades, start moving more, but also equip a nitrous module to help you get out of AV range faster. It works wonders. If you are getting solo'd by proto AV, then there is a problem with your fit, your tactics, or your intelligence. That is the hard truth, and I am sorry to break it to you that way. If you are getting tackled by a proto AV while you are engaged with someone else, thats teamwork, enjoy the respawn screen.
Last tank I lost was to a proto SL and wonder of wonders I could actually see the rounds so I carried on moving heading for cover and managed to tank 3 rounds using my hardener and my repper I got behind the wall thinking I am safe for the time being time to move. At this point the last SL rounds overshot the wall and did a perfect 120 degree turn on a sixpence to come back for me. The main issues I see are with SL's behaviour they can be fired from distances that render them invisible, they can defy physics with their turning abilities. The whole jumping/dancing while reloading/aiming thing happens with every gun nearly though to I wont mention that at the moment.
Conversely as a user of proto swarms as well their behaviour can also be a hinderance, occasionally they seem to fire a few seconds after you wish them to, they seem to target the bottom of installations so if there is even a slight hill infront of it they will plow into that usually. Weird spreading effect, I have fired from the open before and they spread out a little then other times they seem to spread to the four corners of the world before heading to your target. |
Alpha 443-6732
Not Guilty EoN.
28
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:16:00 -
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daishi mk03 wrote:What the ****? You comment is wrong on every level. Right now for me it is like this: One proto AV won't kill me, he dies instantly to my railgun. Two proto AV force me to retreat at least, if I **** up I die. Three proto AV: Okay, fk, fk, fk Four proto:gg
Why isn't this fine?
Because thats not how it works now, unless you are redline sniping. Really don't know where you are getting those numbers, as well.
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The Attorney General
ZionTCD
418
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:24:00 -
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Medic 1879 wrote:
Last tank I lost was to a proto SL and wonder of wonders I could actually see the rounds so I carried on moving heading for cover and managed to tank 3 rounds using my hardener and my repper I got behind the wall thinking I am safe for the time being time to move. At this point the last SL rounds overshot the wall and did a perfect 120 degree turn on a sixpence to come back for me. The main issues I see are with SL's behaviour they can be fired from distances that render them invisible, they can defy physics with their turning abilities. The whole jumping/dancing while reloading/aiming thing happens with every gun nearly though to I wont mention that at the moment.
Conversely as a user of proto swarms as well their behaviour can also be a hinderance, occasionally they seem to fire a few seconds after you wish them to, they seem to target the bottom of installations so if there is even a slight hill infront of it they will plow into that usually. Weird spreading effect, I have fired from the open before and they spread out a little then other times they seem to spread to the four corners of the world before heading to your target.
Absolutely agreed on the odd behaviours of swarms at times. I have had them go through walls and crates, through turrets, and on one spectacular occasion orbiting a CRU to get a hit.
Honestly, I am not sure how best to remedy such a problem, other than making them track straight to a target, rather than the location when they are fired then adjusting. Would make them much easier to fight if they were more predictable.
The render distance thing is across the whole game, and affects everyone. Hopefully they can make some improvements soon on that front.
The jumping reloading dance needs to go. It makes the game so stupid. Watching live streams the amount of bunnyhopping really turns me off of the whole ground game. It is so ridiculous that no one has ever come upon the idea of reduced accuracy after you press the jump button. Would make the game so much better. |
daishi mk03
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:27:00 -
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So you are claiming that you die to one single AV guy who needs to fire at least five times (vs 2x hardeners and 1x rep) and who dies instantly to one single shot of your railgun. If it is a heavy, he won't even move fast. Okay. Yeah, then you got a problem. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
418
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:29:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:The Attorney General wrote:General John Ripper wrote:I want to sign but I also want my name to be in bold like all the cool guys at the top. Or just be like Charlotte and get all your alts to sign. that's a little too far dude
How so? I'm not letting someone who won't show up to a 1 v 1 after trash talking get off easy.
Especially when they are trying to bolster their own cause by basically committing a fraud through inflating the signee count.
Integrity counts for something. Charlotte has none. |
Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
714
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:30:00 -
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you posting on this thread is just going too far.. |
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:33:00 -
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I approve this thread. :D |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
418
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:35:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:you posting on this thread is just going too far..
Would you like to counter that really long post I put up?
Please do so. Or is the substance of your opinion that you just want stronger tanks, and everyone else can go flap in the wind?
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Alpha 443-6732
Not Guilty EoN.
28
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:36:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:General John Ripper wrote:I want to sign but I also want my name to be in bold like all the cool guys at the top. Or just be like Charlotte and get all your alts to sign.
Honestly I would just shut up before making a further fool of yourself, you're looking more like a fan of S & M than tanking. Along with all the drama and fallacies thrown into your arguements, and your inexperience with tanking (2 months... LOL).
If you are so good at tanking, why don't I see you in PC dominating other tankers left and right? Why do you think you can insult us because you think we should adapt to something that is clearly broken? Why aren't we telling everyone to adapt to flaylocks? |
Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
716
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:43:00 -
[284] - Quote
funny thing is that noobs with even a months experience with tanks think that they know more about it that the real tankers do... |
aflatoxin
Planetary Response Organisation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:45:00 -
[285] - Quote
signed |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
418
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:50:00 -
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Alpha 443-6732 wrote:
Honestly I would just shut up before making a further fool of yourself, you're looking more like a fan of S & M than tanking. Along with all the drama and fallacies thrown into your arguements, and your inexperience with tanking (2 months... LOL).
If you are so good at tanking, why don't I see you in PC dominating other tankers left and right? Why do you think you can insult us because you think we should adapt to something that is clearly broken? Why aren't we telling everyone to adapt to flaylocks?
You must have me confused with someone who has something to prove.
I came out on top of the best of the Imps in PC ringing for STB.
Since they were the best in the game, and pretty much all retired afterwards, there is no real challenge left. But if your bosses want me to do your job for you, they can mail me and pay my fee.
Or if you feel like throwing away 30 mill you can drop me a mail and respectfully ask for a 1 v 1.
Otherwise, feel free to go back to your crying about how you can't make a profit, or AV is too strong, or how you can no longer go 30- 0 now that people have specced into real AV.
Poor baby. |
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:55:00 -
[287] - Quote
@ attorney
ur basing ur tanking carrer on 1 battle when u probably destroyed instalations. |
Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
716
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:55:00 -
[288] - Quote
The Attorney General wrote:Alpha 443-6732 wrote:
Honestly I would just shut up before making a further fool of yourself, you're looking more like a fan of S & M than tanking. Along with all the drama and fallacies thrown into your arguements, and your inexperience with tanking (2 months... LOL).
If you are so good at tanking, why don't I see you in PC dominating other tankers left and right? Why do you think you can insult us because you think we should adapt to something that is clearly broken? Why aren't we telling everyone to adapt to flaylocks?
You must have me confused with someone who has something to prove. I came out on top of the best of the Imps in PC ringing for STB. Since they were the best in the game, and pretty much all retired afterwards, there is no real challenge left. But if your bosses want me to do your job for you, they can mail me and pay my fee. Or if you feel like throwing away 30 mill you can drop me a mail and respectfully ask for a 1 v 1. Otherwise, feel free to go back to your crying about how you can't make a profit, or AV is too strong, or how you can no longer go 30- 0 now that people have specced into real AV. Poor baby.
go back to infantry, you wouldn't be such a sore thumb if you were |
daishi mk03
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:56:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:funny thing is that noobs with even a months experience with tanks think that they know more about it that the real tankers do...
sad thing is that people, who call themselves and each other "A-list tankers" and "best tank players", write that they get wrecked by a single forgegun in three shots. |
Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
716
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:57:00 -
[290] - Quote
daishi mk03 wrote:Void Echo wrote:funny thing is that noobs with even a months experience with tanks think that they know more about it that the real tankers do... sad thing is that people, who call themselves and each other "A-list tankers" and "best tank players", write that they get wrecked by a single forgegun in three shots.
if its a standard forge gun, no it should do that, advanced... maybe, proto definitely, but standard and militia, absolutely not |
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Alpha 443-6732
Not Guilty EoN.
28
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:09:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote: You must have me confused with someone who has something to prove.
I came out on top of the best of the Imps in PC ringing for STB.
Since they were the best in the game, and pretty much all retired afterwards, there is no real challenge left. But if your bosses want me to do your job for you, they can mail me and pay my fee.
Or if you feel like throwing away 30 mill you can drop me a mail and respectfully ask for a 1 v 1.
Otherwise, feel free to go back to your crying about how you can't make a profit, or AV is too strong, or how you can no longer go 30- 0 now that people have specced into real AV.
Poor baby.
You're so full of yourself, with nothing of any value to prove it. I think you need to grow up or go back to call of duty, your e-p33n flexing and arrogance would be more accepted over there.
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The Attorney General
ZionTCD
421
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:32:00 -
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Big long post on the last page, no talk of nerfs. Clearly vpid you can't read or you can't formulate a reply. Well done buddy.
Alpha, that's funny. You try and talk down to me but won't put your money where your mouth is. Are you yet another of Charlottes alt? |
daishi mk03
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:33:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:if its a standard forge gun, no it should do that, advanced... maybe, proto definitely, but standard and militia, absolutely not
Take the proto breach version with 2,7k damage, +15% skills + mods +10% armor damage make it 4k armor damage / shot with a rather long charge up time and immobilizing the heavy. Those are the moments hardener / reppers are for and one-shotting this guy is better than trying to survive, but yeah, I still cannot see a certainly dead tank.
Reality is different, for sure, a third of the enemies having AV grenades, maybe a Commando with a SL from somewhere + this freaking heavy. But life isn't easy for anybody ... |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
421
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:34:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:daishi mk03 wrote:Void Echo wrote:funny thing is that noobs with even a months experience with tanks think that they know more about it that the real tankers do... sad thing is that people, who call themselves and each other "A-list tankers" and "best tank players", write that they get wrecked by a single forgegun in three shots. if its a standard forge gun, no it should do that, advanced... maybe, proto definitely, but standard and militia, absolutely not
If you get three shot by any forge you don't know how to fit a tank. |
Stinker Butt
Not Guilty EoN.
143
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:59:00 -
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I keep seeing tankers say they are killed by a solo AVer, but they dont mention that they probably killed 10 to 20 AVers between deaths. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
157
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:03:00 -
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Please make our tanks stronger so we can be good for once! |
Tank Gorillarape
Not Guilty EoN.
21
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:26:00 -
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God all tankers are such complainers i hate tankers they are the biggest douchbags in the game |
oso tiburon
The Generals EoN.
186
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:30:00 -
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CuuCH Crusher wrote:Cy Clone1 wrote: I want to make a good game. Dust 514 needs intense vehicle on vehicle combat, as well as neck and neck fights between powerful machines and dedicated av players. Whether or not we agree on suggested changes we have to respect each others roles. I don't want to ruin a av players experience like they shouldn't want to ruin mine. Im usually pretty good at keeping tanks alive, I don't redline snipe, but because of the over whelming amount of strong av ive honestly thought about it. You may not like it but you cant deny that tanks are becoming obsolete in New Eden and they need help. Thank you for acknowledging AV players. I don't want to ruin your experience. If it were up to me I would make your tank cost as much as my FG. Another solution would be to put barriers on the top of buildings to prevent tower forge gunning. I see alot of people complaining about that. in the generals im a heavy munitions specalist .. havs heavy drop suit and im lvl 5 forge prof and as well a very worthy tank set up its sad to say i can survive longer on the ground with my assult fg than i ever could in my tank . i use missiles primarily and as such im close to medium range support role even with fitting decent plate reps and hardners i cant fully support my squad without have to run for my life after a limited engagment |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
157
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:56:00 -
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Tank Gorillarape wrote:God all tankers are such complainers i hate tankers they are the biggest douchbags in the game
Agreed, they are the biggest babies in all of DUST. Constantly crying and making petitions. |
Tank Gorillarape
Not Guilty EoN.
22
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:57:00 -
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Xero The Mishima wrote:Tank Gorillarape wrote:God all tankers are such complainers i hate tankers they are the biggest douchbags in the game Agreed, they are the biggest babies in all of DUST. Constantly crying and making petitions. They like it up the butt |
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