I'm sorry, what did you read there?
I said AV makes sacrifices to be effective against vehicles (besides AV grenades, they are small sacrifices), so let them. Don't tell me you will **** every Assault, Sniper or Heavy, you are food for them. Why the **** do you want to beat the whole enemy team alone as tank? I'm happy to kill all those DSs, LAVs and one-shot every infantry. Don't need god mode.

When you get your skills up you can fit a Heavy Efficient repper, a 180 mm Nano plate, and a proto rail with only 1 PG extender.

You give me 25% more PG, and I will make a Madrugar that will take 2 or 3 Proto AV to tackle. I can already shrug off a single proto AV user.

What happens when we get proto vehicles?

Why is it that no one seems to think that maybe the STD tanks got stepped down to make room for proto tanks that won't be OP? Is that such a strange idea?

I do not like that they made a balancing pass before introducing new stuff, but I can at least see that being the case.

There seems to be a contingent here that wants to have big performance out of STD tanks and still want a big step up in performance to proto. That leads to OP tanks and complaining infantry.

As it is right now, I can face off with a proto AV without too much fear, but as soon as there is more than one of them I am in deep trouble. This to me is balanced. They are two people, I am one. How this balance will change with the introduction of future vehicles remains to be seen.

I'll admit, I've only been AV for a month. My K/D was 6.2 with an HMG, and since switching to AV, it's slowly creeping up.

The majority of my kills are not from tanks as they are one of the few challenges in the game. Most come from keeping the lavs at bay or mowing over mercs playing in the street.

I use cover. Sometimes just a hill will do, especially if the tank is out in the open. Stay hidden if I can. Sneaking up behind a tank is ideal, but depending on their position, that's sometimes easier said than done. I like to use my logi lav as bait. By the time they finish that off, I've usually got 3 packed lai dai's burried into them and just need launch a couple more swarms. I don't mind losing the lav because I've literally got enough isk for 1,800 more.

If the tank has good ground support, it's not safe to engage alone on the ground. If multiple people are attacking it, I can help from a distance. Sometimes the tank wins, but I usually feel like I've at least put up a good fight. I find my play style more fun than sitting on a tower with a couple of nanohives. It has more risk, but keeps the adrenaline pumping and keeps me interested in this game.

and still no response from CCP

Allotek Industries supports this.

Being a tanker myself i agree, tanks need some kind of buff to be able to take on all the av, there is no point in getting the falchion or the vayu, they are not worth the price.

by your definition of balance here, there should be no balance and av should always have the advantage over vehicles like it has now.... I see, your an idiot.


we haven't had advantage over av since before chromosome, why do you think that nobody wants to skill into tanks? its not worth it, the balance is broken and always will be if a standard av payer can solo a standard tank. because right now that's the way it is and its making this into another COD

on that note, we wont know if its still unbalanced or not until we get our advanced and prototype tanks, but I will never agree to one person continuing to solo a tank, only if its proto av vs standard tank then I will agree

hes also smaller and more moveable which will result in him sneaking behind you or surprising you from a mountain top about 20 feet way from you.

yeah I do, but scanners are useless imo. they don't add to my damage output nor do they increase my hp

Or they could just change it to 3% per level and leave everything else as it is.

This post is about tanks. Vehicles. Not dropsuits.

I have never seen anyone in TEST post anything remotely on point.

The ****** tank situation is exactly what CCP wants; think about it -

What hooks a newbie more than popping a tank?

What ragequits a newbie more than getting pwnd by a tank?



That's why they have all these great and ready AV weapons (that are just really well tuned for their job), and tanks have unwieldy noise holes, with no electronic targeting/defence for all our teraflops.

How about learn to read and chill the hell out with your petitions:

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1085377#post1085377

But Im here and im not stable :O

u saw nothing.

1.5 is the new 1.4.

Spread the new gospel of October for parity.

But seriously I'll be playing something on PS4 before its really fixed.

Not to be an ass or anything but 1.4 is the vehicle overhaul patch, not 1.5.

I think if you want buffs like this that tanks should not be able to even operate without 2-3 people in them. The driver should not be operating a turret and the turret should not operate without a driver. I've seen games where a tank comes in with a proper squad for support. This didn't even mean having people following him, he just had 2 logis in his tank with him running his turrets and when it got hot for him they would get somewhere a little safer and one or both logis would jump out and start repairing. He didn't die the whole match no matter how much AV got thrown at him. Strategy like that is what is needed, not OP tanks. You shouldn't get the things you're asking for at all without giving things up.

Agreed. The presence of Proto AV is on the rise and pretty much every match I play there is at least one Proto AV weapon if not more. My STD tank is clearly not able to withstand this nor is another person's tank

Lol Takecover was ban for this thread you already know CCP Blam is not happy.

Will not say here. Contact me in game. Lets just say there is some 1984 stuff going on.

this game's community is just too shitheaded for me to care about it anymore.... lol