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Jebus McKing Nos Nothi 1497	Posted - 2015.02.18 09:17:00 - [29491] - Quote The Amarr scout is not a bad suit. I've specced into it myself a couple of days ago and I like it, though, I'm not really using it like a scout but more like I would use an Assault or Logi. The thing is, I rarely have the feeling that I need it to accomplish a certain task like I do with my other suits. There is nothing I can do with the Amarr scout that I couldn't do better with another one of my suits. The only time you can really make use of its bonus is when you fight another scout in CQC. And even then only if that other scout does not have enough dampeners on. But maybe I'm doing it wrong. Any tips on playing an Amarr scout? pé¿pâûpé¦pü»pé¦pé¡pâúpâ¦péÆs½îpüúpüªpüäpéïpÇé wwwwwwwwwww
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6751	Posted - 2015.02.18 13:28:00 - [29492] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: The Amarr scout is not a bad suit. I've specced into it myself a couple of days ago and I like it, though, I'm not really using it like a scout but more like I would use an Assault or Logi. The thing is, I rarely have the feeling that I need it to accomplish a certain task like I do with my other suits. There is nothing I can do with the Amarr scout that I couldn't do better with another one of my suits. The only time you can really make use of its bonus is when you fight another scout in CQC. And even then only if that other scout does not have enough dampeners on. But maybe I'm doing it wrong. Any tips on playing an Amarr scout? My old "Warden" AM Scout was one of my favorite Ambush fits. Precision in highs, 3 range amps and a reactive in lows. Two proto scanners, ScR, Bolt and Core Locus. Many a dead post 1.8 darkspawn. Good times. Happy squadmates. Completely ineffective post-falloff. Tried a few different Ak.0 loadouts over a couple days following falloff. Dropped the ScR, traded precision enhancers for two damage mods, and set out to shotgun with it. Found it most effective with 2 KinCats + 2 Reactive Plates (or perhaps it was vanilla enh plate + reps ... don't recall exactly). Anyhow, it did well unless there was a GalLogi on the field. Scanned Scout is dead Scout. GA Scout needs damps in 1/4 lows to beat GalLogi + Pro Scans. AM Scout needs damps in 2/4. 2 damps + 2 reactives = too slow and 2 damps + 2 kincats = fun, but too squishy. Tried different arrangements shields, damps, kincats and reactives. Ultimately decided that the GA Scout was simply better suit for CQC (and the CA Scout a better suit for the range). Found the post-falloff AM Scout to have no competitive edge and dropped it with a respec. Edit: If GA Logi scans weren't at issue, I'd run it with a shotgun, 2 shields, 3 kincats and 1 damp. I intend to skill back into it if gets a "fun" bonus ... pehaps something to do biotics or jumps. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Jebus McKing Nos Nothi 1498	Posted - 2015.02.18 14:59:00 - [29493] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: ... I'd likely skill back into it if it got a "fun" bonus, perhaps to biotics or myos/jumps :-) 25% bonus to melee damage and jump height. +1 pé¿pâûpé¦pü»pé¦pé¡pâúpâ¦péÆs½îpüúpüªpüäpéïpÇé wwwwwwwwwww
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6754	Posted - 2015.02.18 15:10:00 - [29494] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: ... I'd likely skill back into it if it got a "fun" bonus, perhaps to biotics or myos/jumps :-) 25% bonus to melee damage and jump height. +1 I'd go for +25% to +50% for all biotics, this way users aren't pigeonholed into a for-lulz-only suit. But "must be fastest" minmatar enthusiasts get really upset at this idea :P Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Jebus McKing Nos Nothi 1498	Posted - 2015.02.18 16:32:00 - [29495] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Jebus McKing wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: ... I'd likely skill back into it if it got a "fun" bonus, perhaps to biotics or myos/jumps :-) 25% bonus to melee damage and jump height. +1 I'd go for +25% to +50% for all biotics, this way users aren't pigeonholed into a for-lulz-only suit. But "must be fastest" minmatar enthusiasts get really upset at this idea :P Hm... so if we'd replace the stamina bonus with a +25% bonus to kincats, cardiacs, and myofibs I wouldn't even be mad. Less inherent bonuses, but more modules specific ones. Just as the Minmatars bonus is specific to NKs. pé¿pâûpé¦pü»pé¦pé¡pâúpâ¦péÆs½îpüúpüªpüäpéïpÇé wwwwwwwwwww
Llast 326 An Arkhos 6780	Posted - 2015.02.18 16:55:00 - [29496] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Jebus McKing wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: ... I'd likely skill back into it if it got a "fun" bonus, perhaps to biotics or myos/jumps :-) 25% bonus to melee damage and jump height. +1 I'd go for +25% to +50% for all biotics, this way users aren't pigeonholed into a for-lulz-only suit. But "must be fastest" minmatar enthusiasts get really upset at this idea :P Hm... so if we'd replace the stamina bonus with a +25% bonus to kincats, cardiacs, and myofibs I wouldn't even be mad. Less inherent bonuses, but more modules specific ones. Just as the Minmatars bonus is specific to NKs. Proto Amarr Scout Complex Kin Card Complex Ferro/Reactive Rep 2xMyro Active Damp Compact Hive Viz ScR Wahatever sidearm suites your fancy Whatever grenade Can't see why I would run anything else Of course that would depend on how the Active damp worked and bonus Blue Jar jump height would just be gravyGÇª or great compensation for adding a Complex Armour Plate if it also affects strafing. For funnies switch out ScR for PLCGÇª MOAR Ladders
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6756	Posted - 2015.02.18 16:56:00 - [29497] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Jebus McKing wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: ... I'd likely skill back into it if it got a "fun" bonus, perhaps to biotics or myos/jumps :-) 25% bonus to melee damage and jump height. +1 I'd go for +25% to +50% for all biotics, this way users aren't pigeonholed into a for-lulz-only suit. But "must be fastest" minmatar enthusiasts get really upset at this idea :P Hm... so if we'd replace the stamina bonus with a +25% bonus to kincats, cardiacs, and myofibs I wouldn't even be mad. Less inherent bonuses, but more modules specific ones. Just as the Minmatars bonus is specific to NKs. I'd prefer it keep the base stamina bonus and replace precision bonus with +5% to +7% per level biotics. CA and GA remain EWAR oriented. AM and MN now fun oriented. Reduce/replace GA Logi scan bonus, and all Scouts become viable. Swap Assault and Logi speed profiles, and Scouts are now balanced against Assaults. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6757	Posted - 2015.02.18 17:47:00 - [29498] - Quote It seems GA and CA Assault users feel that they are less OP than MN and AM Assaults. If these were to choose a better racial bonus, such that all Assaults are made equal in their OPness, do you think the speed-swap with Logis would suffice to bring them into balance with other suits? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 1786	Posted - 2015.02.18 18:29:00 - [29499] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Curious, why no GA Assault shotgunners? Are MN Assault that much better at it? (Skilling into Assault) Well I figured it was obvious, the speed confers such a humongous benefit to the shotgun. MN assault is absurdly fast so it's well suited to the shotty. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6757	Posted - 2015.02.18 18:39:00 - [29500] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Curious, why no GA Assault shotgunners? Are MN Assault that much better at it? (Skilling into Assault) Well I figured it was obvious, the speed confers such a humongous benefit to the shotgun. MN assault is absurdly fast so it's well suited to the shotty. Looks like MN has it beat on stamina as well. The GA can fit two KinCats and three Damps for 9.x sprint and sub-21 profile. Can't do that w/MN Assault. I'll bet it'll make for a mean shotgunner once backpedal speed is fixed. Thinking I might bank on a MN nerf and skill Gal+AR with plans to shotgun post backpedal tweaks. Also considering AM Assault + ScR. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley

Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 1786	Posted - 2015.02.18 18:49:00 - [29501] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Curious, why no GA Assault shotgunners? Are MN Assault that much better at it? (Skilling into Assault) Well I figured it was obvious, the speed confers such a humongous benefit to the shotgun. MN assault is absurdly fast so it's well suited to the shotty. Looks like MN has it beat on stamina as well. The GA can fit two KinCats and three Damps for 9.x sprint and sub-21 profile. Can't do that w/MN Assault. I'll bet it'll make for a mean shotgunner once backpedal speed is fixed. One step ahead of the meta! AM assault is fun. It feels a little scummy using the ScR but it's a fun weapon to use. I've been using the TAR a lot recently too, it's way better than people give it credit for. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6757	Posted - 2015.02.18 19:03:00 - [29502] - Quote You beat me to my edit! Yes, I'm also considering AM Assault + ScR. Got the drop on the same Ak.0 three times in a row yesterday. First two deaths, shotgunned him in the back; he bunnyhops; whapwhapwhap and I'm dead before I could followup with second blast. Wised up for my 3rd attempt. Strapped on a complex plate and a prototype shotgun. Managed to get off two blasts this time, but he still had enough HP to vaporize me before I could place the 3rd. Pretty irritated with both the suit and the gun at the moment, and I need a good mid-to-long range loadout. Also wouldn't mind having something I can run while drunk and still do well :-) Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Bayeth Mal Nos Nothi 2378	Posted - 2015.02.18 19:22:00 - [29503] - Quote I've knifed more Amarr scouts than have killed me at all. Now, whether they got me on scans and their heavy friend killed me I can't be sure. But when encountering them I just haven't found them to be a threat. Ever. Even when a couple of people have pulled out their proto one to chase me down. Knifed one of them in the face as he came around a corner after me, oh he picked me up on passives allright, but I have precision too he forgot to put damps on. Gal scouts are more of a threat. Cal is turn around and leave (hit box). Min is middle ground and nice enough to encounter, fun but not always easy. Plus sometimes they honour my knife duel challenges. We'll bang, OK?
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 2141	Posted - 2015.02.18 19:57:00 - [29504] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Curious, why no GA Assault shotgunners? Are MN Assault that much better at it? (Skilling into Assault) Have a fit in mind? Been screwing around with some fits here lately. I'll pop it in and give it a go. Both are at proto TLDR : XD
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6758	Posted - 2015.02.18 20:00:00 - [29505] - Quote Respec'd! Picked Up: * AM Assault, GA Assault * ScR, AR * Ion Pistol (b/c very curious) Dropped: * Combat Rifle (figured two Fine Rifles is enough Fine Rifles) * PLC, MD, Flaylock (all fun, but wanted SP elsewhere) * Minmando / Swarms (AV is more trouble than it is worth) * Hand-to-Hand (will re-skill if/when myos get jumps) 5.5M unallocated. Eyeballing: * CalMando (snipe from time to time) * GalSentinel / HMG (small pukes on self) Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6759	Posted - 2015.02.18 20:07:00 - [29506] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Curious, why no GA Assault shotgunners? Are MN Assault that much better at it? (Skilling into Assault) Have a fit in mind? Been screwing around with some fits here lately. I'll pop it in and give it a go. Both are at proto Indeed XD http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/1192/11893 Edit: Gonna take her out for a spin with Adv Ion Pistol instead of SMG and 1 Green / 1 Red vs 2 Reds. Excite! Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 2293	Posted - 2015.02.18 20:18:00 - [29507] - Quote I know what's fundamentally wrong with dust! Lack of end of match satisfaction. Winning doesn't give me any at all, its usually, well, that was a stomp and I wasn't needed. On the other hand, losing is a 'why even bother with a team like this'. Delt for CPM2 CPM1 MISSION : FAILED Moss-delt on skype
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6760	Posted - 2015.02.18 20:39:00 - [29508] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Curious, why no GA Assault shotgunners? Are MN Assault that much better at it? (Skilling into Assault) Have a fit in mind? Been screwing around with some fits here lately. I'll pop it in and give it a go. Both are at proto Indeed XD http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/1192/11893 Took her out for a spin with Adv Ion Pistol instead of SMG and 1 Green / 1 Red vs 2 Reds. Just wrapped up first match. Will not spoil the experiment with bias; looking forward to hearing your thoughts :-) @ Ion Pistol This is either a terrible weapon or I am doing it wrong. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6760	Posted - 2015.02.18 21:01:00 - [29509] - Quote Looking forward to next "outdoor" map. Will be running: Assault Ak.0 PW: Viziam ScR SW: SK9 Breach SMG HS: Cmp Dmg (x2), Cmp Precision LS: Cmp Reps (x3), Enh Plates (x2) EQ: Creodron Prox Scanner GR: Core Locus Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5895	Posted - 2015.02.18 21:05:00 - [29510] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: @ Ion Pistol This is either a terrible weapon or I am doing it wrong. The first is definite, but given your inexperience with the weapon the second could be true too. What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.

Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6760	Posted - 2015.02.18 21:13:00 - [29511] - Quote Spademan wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: @ Ion Pistol This is either a terrible weapon or I am doing it wrong. The first is definite, but given your inexperience with the weapon the second could be true too. So I have a guy down to a mere sliver of armor. Pull out the IoP and spam it like it was the old Assault Scrambler. Missed every single shot. Or maybe hit him a couple times, but for so little damage neither he nor I realized he'd been hit. Had to switch back to shotgun to finish the job. I just maxed the Ion Pistol skill tree. There's a good chance I will never use this weapon again :-) Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge 2918	Posted - 2015.02.18 21:20:00 - [29512] - Quote I mean no offense to you, Adipem, but the IoP is an amazing weapon. I actually prefer the MLT IoP rather than my ADV Magsec. *Quoth the Raven "Nevermore!"* - Edgar Allan Poe CCP Falcon has betrayed me... twice. I will steal his hamsters!
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6760	Posted - 2015.02.18 21:25:00 - [29513] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: I mean no offense to you, Adipem, but the IoP is an amazing weapon. I actually prefer the MLT IoP rather than my ADV Magsec. Do you use the charge shot? Hipfire or aim-down-sights? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge 2918	Posted - 2015.02.18 21:29:00 - [29514] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: I mean no offense to you, Adipem, but the IoP is an amazing weapon. I actually prefer the MLT IoP rather than my ADV Magsec. Do you use the charge shot? Hipfire or aim-down-sights? Depends, if I know someone is coming around the corner than yes, if not... Hipfire always worked best for me. *Quoth the Raven "Nevermore!"* - Edgar Allan Poe CCP Falcon has betrayed me... twice. I will steal his hamsters!
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5895	Posted - 2015.02.18 21:29:00 - [29515] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Spademan wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: @ Ion Pistol This is either a terrible weapon or I am doing it wrong. The first is definite, but given your inexperience with the weapon the second could be true too. So I have a guy down to a mere sliver of armor. Pull out the IoP and spam it like it was the old Assault Scrambler. Missed every single shot. Or maybe hit him a couple times, but for so little damage neither he nor I realized he'd been hit. Had to switch back to shotgun to finish the job. I just maxed the Ion Pistol skill tree. There's a good chance I will never use this weapon again :-) I see your problem. What you're trying to do is use it as a backup weapon. That'll get you killed. If you're going to use it, you want to start as you mean to go on. Go into that match with the intention of killing with the Ion, it's not going to just happen by chance like any other weapon. Charge your weapon as soon as you know where your target is whether or not you have line of sight or not. In short: As long as you intend to kill, you will kill. What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6760	Posted - 2015.02.18 21:51:00 - [29516] - Quote @ Raven Thanks! @ Spade Do you recommend only using the charge shot? If this is to be my "opener" then it'd be a bad idea to pair it with Knives or Shotgun, correct? Experimenting w/ IoP ... Dragonfly PW: Dren SG SW: Ion Pistol HS: Shields LS: Damp, Green Pill, Red Pill EQ: Cloak, RE Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge 2918	Posted - 2015.02.18 22:04:00 - [29517] - Quote Guys, I think I got a hatethread. Due to posting a thread out of boredom in the locker room. *Quoth the Raven "Nevermore!"* - Edgar Allan Poe CCP Falcon has betrayed me... twice. I will steal his hamsters!
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5895	Posted - 2015.02.18 22:15:00 - [29518] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: @ Raven Thanks! @ Spade Do you recommend only using the charge shot? If this is to be my "opener" then it'd be a bad idea to pair it with Knives or Shotgun, correct? Experimenting w/ IoP ... Dragonfly PW: Dren SG SW: Ion Pistol HS: Shields LS: Damp, Green Pill, Red Pill EQ: Cloak, RE Depends on how attached you are to your ammo. I'd say stick with using the charge as much as you can, after one shot it's completely random whether the following bullets will hit or not. What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6761	Posted - 2015.02.18 23:54:00 - [29519] - Quote I'm not feeling it, Spade. Charge shot is less reliable than an NK attack and requires more-or-less the same setting. ADS fire is clunky and kick is MagSec bad. Hipfire spam is unpredictable. Really don't like this gun. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge 2919	Posted - 2015.02.19 00:30:00 - [29520] - Quote Adipem, Have you attempted to surprise a Caldari assault? A charged CreDeon almost OHKs it. As Spade said use it first, ScP and SMG are much better for finishers. *Quoth the Raven "Nevermore!"* - Edgar Allan Poe CCP Falcon has betrayed me... twice. I will steal his hamsters!



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