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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.02.17 00:54:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Ares 514 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Ares 514 wrote:After playing a non maxed out scout suit for the first time since the cloak was introduced I have to say the scout role bonus is currently the dumbest bonus out there.
Granted I highly doubt I'd have a cloak on this fit even if maxed out the fact that you have to be almost maxed in your suit to use your role bonus anywhere near effectively and that said role bonus is tied to a very flawed item currently is sad. You spawnkilled me with those Ishoks (at a CRU)... I guess that was revenge for me stabbing you in the face with ZNs while you attempted to pump a shotgun blast in me. Nice. I had some fun last night knifing people. Did you stab me right at the start after I hacked the point? That was you?
Lol, yep, I saw you coming but wanted to finish the hack for a daily mission. I chose the hack and let you dice me up!
Overlord of Broman
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
6132
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Posted - 2015.02.17 00:55:00 -
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welp, I fully specced shotgun, but didn't get a scout suit.
Think I'll get the minmatar heavy instead and just pretend I'm a scout.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1163
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Posted - 2015.02.17 00:56:00 -
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Jebus McKing wrote:Am I the only one that has the feeling that 30m passive scan range aren't really 30m but more like <10? What's up with that?
Passive scans are not in the best place as the moment. Those rings just kind of messed it up instead of making it interesting.
Overlord of Broman
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
6741
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Posted - 2015.02.17 00:57:00 -
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What the heck is going with Assault users wanting to buff themselves? Bar EZ Mode HMG Heavy, there's no better unit on the field than the Assault.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1163
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Posted - 2015.02.17 00:58:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:What the heck is going with Assault users wanting to buff themselves? Isn't it a 'bit early for another Uprising 1.0?
Lol, assault buff?! They're in a very good spot currently not sure what more they need.
Overlord of Broman
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
6744
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Posted - 2015.02.17 01:10:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:Ares 514 wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:What the heck is going with Assault users wanting to buff themselves? Isn't it a 'bit early for another Uprising 1.0? Lol, assault buff?! They're in a very good spot currently not sure what more they need. No they need less profile and better precision. I want my assault to have 20db profile/precision with 1k hp. buff the assault. give them a 2nd EQ slot as well so I can cloak and scan in my assault, lol
^ A perfect example.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2015.02.17 01:17:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:What the heck is going with Assault users wanting to buff themselves? Isn't it a 'bit early for another Uprising 1.0? Lol, assault buff?! They're in a very good spot currently not sure what more they need. He's referring to the Gallente and Caldari Assaults who would like to change their bonus to something that's actually useful.
His protest against it is rather amusing (and appaullingly hypocritical) given how he also supported changes to the Amarr Scout's bonus, even though they at the time were the best suits in the game and the Amarr Scout was/is a great suit
The 1st Matari Commando
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
7866
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Posted - 2015.02.17 01:26:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Ares 514 wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:What the heck is going with Assault users wanting to buff themselves? Isn't it a 'bit early for another Uprising 1.0? Lol, assault buff?! They're in a very good spot currently not sure what more they need. He's referring to the Gallente and Caldari Assaults who would like to change their bonus to something that's actually useful. His protest against it is rather amusing (and appaullingly hypocritical) given how he also supported changes to the Amarr Scout's bonus, even though they at the time were the best suits in the game and the Amarr Scout was/is a great suit If that is the case, that they are a great suit, why does no one use them?
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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voidfaction
Nos Nothi
1143
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Posted - 2015.02.17 01:48:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Atiim wrote:Ares 514 wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:What the heck is going with Assault users wanting to buff themselves? Isn't it a 'bit early for another Uprising 1.0? Lol, assault buff?! They're in a very good spot currently not sure what more they need. He's referring to the Gallente and Caldari Assaults who would like to change their bonus to something that's actually useful. His protest against it is rather amusing (and appaullingly hypocritical) given how he also supported changes to the Amarr Scout's bonus, even though they at the time were the best suits in the game and the Amarr Scout was/is a great suit If that is the case, that they are a great suit, why does no one use them? I find the gal assault bonus useful. I hit more than i miss so in return is better dps. cal dont much care for the bonus because If my rifle and sidearm dont take them down I am dead anyway so unless reloading is instant it is no help.
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1165
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Posted - 2015.02.17 02:06:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Ares 514 wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:What the heck is going with Assault users wanting to buff themselves? Isn't it a 'bit early for another Uprising 1.0? Lol, assault buff?! They're in a very good spot currently not sure what more they need. Better bonuses More slots More HP / Speed Cloak
Let's give them the cloak then... as a stealth nerf :)
Overlord of Broman
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.02.17 02:10:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Ares 514 wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:What the heck is going with Assault users wanting to buff themselves? Isn't it a 'bit early for another Uprising 1.0? Lol, assault buff?! They're in a very good spot currently not sure what more they need. He's referring to the Gallente and Caldari Assaults who would like to change their bonus to something that's actually useful. His protest against it is rather amusing (and appaullingly hypocritical) given how he also supported changes to the Amarr Scout's bonus, even though they at the time were the best suits in the game and the Amarr Scout was/is a great suit
Cal assault bonus is bs, it's why I didn't bother skilling back into them after the SP reset. I think some like the gal assault bonus. The Amarr scout is quite simply bad at the moment though. I also think the scout role needs a better bonus much more then the assault suits.
Overlord of Broman
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voidfaction
Nos Nothi
1143
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Posted - 2015.02.17 02:14:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Ares 514 wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:What the heck is going with Assault users wanting to buff themselves? Isn't it a 'bit early for another Uprising 1.0? Lol, assault buff?! They're in a very good spot currently not sure what more they need. Better bonuses More slots More HP / Speed Cloak Let's give them the cloak then... as a stealth nerf :) Yes, I already run my gal assault with a cloak
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge
2915
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Posted - 2015.02.17 02:28:00 -
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Used a M/1 Series light frame with a shotgun and SMG. (Used SMG more.) Had a Bor-12 Repair Tool and Stable Uplinks...
I can not say how much better this is compared to my Calscout.
I killed Jesus Chrysler... 3 times that match.
Quoth the Raven "Nevermore!" - Edgar Allan Poe
CCP Falcon has betrayed me... twice.
I will steal his hamsters!
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
6746
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Posted - 2015.02.17 02:30:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Ares 514 wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:What the heck is going with Assault users wanting to buff themselves? Isn't it a 'bit early for another Uprising 1.0? Lol, assault buff?! They're in a very good spot currently not sure what more they need. He's referring to the Gallente and Caldari Assaults who would like to change their bonus to something that's actually useful. His protest against it is rather amusing (and appaullingly hypocritical) given how he also supported changes to the Amarr Scout's bonus, even though they at the time were the best suits in the game and the Amarr Scout was/is a great suit
If Assaults were UP, I'd support buffing them. They aren't UP, so I don't support buffing them. I fail to see what's hypocritical about that.
As for the AM Scout, I've no idea what you're trying to say. If you care to clarify, I'll be glad to respond. In case you were asking, the AM Scout is not a great suit.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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voidfaction
Nos Nothi
1143
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Posted - 2015.02.17 02:50:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Atiim wrote:Ares 514 wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:What the heck is going with Assault users wanting to buff themselves? Isn't it a 'bit early for another Uprising 1.0? Lol, assault buff?! They're in a very good spot currently not sure what more they need. He's referring to the Gallente and Caldari Assaults who would like to change their bonus to something that's actually useful. His protest against it is rather amusing (and appaullingly hypocritical) given how he also supported changes to the Amarr Scout's bonus, even though they at the time were the best suits in the game and the Amarr Scout was/is a great suit If Assaults were UP, I'd support buffing them. They aren't UP, so I don't support buffing them. I fail to see what's hypocritical about that. As for the AM Scout, I've no idea what you're trying to say. If you care to clarify, I'll be glad to respond. In case you were asking, the AM Scout is not a great suit. assault has top 4 spots now on dust.thank.dk
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
2140
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Posted - 2015.02.17 05:09:00 -
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AM scout = not a great suit. Gal assault bonus is pretty nice- I tend to use the arr more on the galassault though
Gun fights where both people unloaded everything they had against another player in a lil 1v1 fight was fun as hell to me personally The strafing each player did, ducking in and out of cover, some jumping here and there That goes into the Cal assault bonus. and with the amount of hp people are running around with seems like you would indeed use the primary and the secondary to finish someone off or maybe reload ur primary to finish them, unless they just stand there and take it. Most people don't want to do that it seems.
A little curious as to what the number one choice for a replacement to the reload bonus would be.
TLDR : XD
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
15661
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Posted - 2015.02.17 05:12:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote: If Assaults were UP, I'd support buffing them. They aren't UP, so I don't support buffing them. I fail to see what's hypocritical about that.
As for the AM Scout, I've no idea what you're trying to say. If you care to clarify, I'll be glad to respond. In case you were asking, the AM Scout is not a great suit.
You oppose a change to the Gal/Cal Assault's bonus on the basis that Assault Dropsuits are good suits, yet supported a change to the Amarr Scout's bonus despite the fact that Scouts at the time were/are good suits.
That is hypocrisy.
One Eyed King wrote: If that is the case, that they are a great suit, why does no one use the Amarr Scout?
Because besides aesthetics and slight variations with its base stats it's the exact same suit as the Gallente Scout, but can't use it's bonus as effectively as the Gallente Scout.
Claiming that "no one" uses it is highly misleading however, as it's daily market sales are higher than 0.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
6748
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Posted - 2015.02.17 05:27:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote: If Assaults were UP, I'd support buffing them. They aren't UP, so I don't support buffing them. I fail to see what's hypocritical about that.
As for the AM Scout, I've no idea what you're trying to say. If you care to clarify, I'll be glad to respond. In case you were asking, the AM Scout is not a great suit.
You oppose a change to the Gal/Cal Assault's bonus on the basis that Assault Dropsuits are good suits, yet supported a change to the Amarr Scout's bonus despite the fact that Scouts at the time were/are good suits. That is hypocrisy. When the AM Scout was bad and underutilized (like it is now), I supported improving it. When it was balanced against other Scouts following HF Charlie, I supported class-wide nerfs. I suspect you're either confused or wrong. What specific change are you talking about?
As for Assaults wanting to buff themselves, yes, I think that would be a bad idea. Do they really need hugs, Atiim?
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
6748
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Posted - 2015.02.17 05:29:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:AM scout = not a great suit. Gal assault bonus is pretty nice- I tend to use the arr more on the galassault though
Gun fights where both people unloaded everything they had against another player in a lil 1v1 fight was fun as hell to me personally The strafing each player did, ducking in and out of cover, some jumping here and there That goes into the Cal assault bonus. and with the amount of hp people are running around with seems like you would indeed use the primary and the secondary to finish someone off or maybe reload ur primary to finish them, unless they just stand there and take it. Most people don't want to do that it seems.
A little curious as to what the number one choice for a replacement to the reload bonus would be.
I'm surprised GA Assault and CA Assault aren't asking to trade bonuses. ARs burn through their clips quickly. RR, ARR, MagSec all kick like mules. Switcheroo?
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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voidfaction
Nos Nothi
1145
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Posted - 2015.02.17 06:13:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:AM scout = not a great suit. Gal assault bonus is pretty nice- I tend to use the arr more on the galassault though
Gun fights where both people unloaded everything they had against another player in a lil 1v1 fight was fun as hell to me personally The strafing each player did, ducking in and out of cover, some jumping here and there That goes into the Cal assault bonus. and with the amount of hp people are running around with seems like you would indeed use the primary and the secondary to finish someone off or maybe reload ur primary to finish them, unless they just stand there and take it. Most people don't want to do that it seems.
A little curious as to what the number one choice for a replacement to the reload bonus would be. I'm surprised GA Assault and CA Assault aren't asking to trade bonuses. ARs burn through their clips pretty quickly. RR, ARR, MagSec all kick like mules. Why not switch? You would rather the long range rr rifles become more hip-fire deadly at all range or the shorter range rifle? Don't want a useless bonus traded to my gal assault. would prefer it stayed where it was at. Have you used the ion pistol it needs all the help at dispersion it can get.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
6748
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Posted - 2015.02.17 06:15:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:You would rather the long range rr rifles become more hip-fire deadly at all range or the shorter range rifle? Don't want a useless bonus traded to my gal assault. would prefer it stayed where it was at. Have you used the ion pistol it needs all the help at dispersion it can get.
All good points. Thank you!
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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voidfaction
Nos Nothi
1146
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Posted - 2015.02.17 06:19:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:voidfaction wrote:You would rather the long range rr rifles become more hip-fire deadly at all range or the shorter range rifle? Don't want a useless bonus traded to my gal assault. would prefer it stayed where it was at. Have you used the ion pistol it needs all the help at dispersion it can get.
All good points. Thank you! maybe a ADS dispersion/kick bonus for cal? Now that I would really like.
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noob cavman
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2136
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Posted - 2015.02.17 08:42:00 -
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i would like a different bonus for my gal assault. i would enjoy a 5% to ammo each level so an extra clip would be nice. The cal bonus is still very meh tbh
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: LEGION
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
2141
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Posted - 2015.02.17 14:36:00 -
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Arr with even better hipfire would be baddd lol.
TLDR : XD
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noob cavman
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2136
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Posted - 2015.02.17 14:52:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Arr with even better hipfire would be baddd lol. Arr is squid tech dood. they dont need dispersion as they kill you from 70 meters out
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: LEGION
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
5895
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Posted - 2015.02.17 19:14:00 -
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I'm not bothered by the Gal Assault bonus, I don't use it so I can't comment on usefulness. But I think that Cal bonus should be changed purely because it steps on the Commando region. Random suggestion: Kick reduction.
What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
6777
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Posted - 2015.02.17 19:17:00 -
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Spademan wrote:I'm not bothered by the Gal Assault bonus, I don't use it so I can't comment on usefulness. But I think that Cal bonus should be changed purely because it steps on the Commando region. Random suggestion: Kick reduction. Ouch Stepping on the Commando regionGǪ and
Kick reduction
Well insinuated Mr. Spade
MOAR Ladders
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
7868
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Posted - 2015.02.17 22:45:00 -
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Atiim wrote:One Eyed King wrote: If that is the case, that they are a great suit, why does no one use the Amarr Scout?
Because besides aesthetics and slight variations with its base stats it's the exact same suit as the Gallente Scout, but can't use it's bonus as effectively as the Gallente Scout. Claiming that "no one" uses it is highly misleading however, as it's daily market sales are higher than 0. I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you are being somewhat sarcastic, as I don't think I need to explain hyperbole to you.
What I meant was, that there are very very few people running Amarr scout.
Your description above seems to contradict the claim that the suit is great. If the Amarr and Gallente Scout are essentially similar, yet the bonus is significantly less effective, then why would anyone use the Amarr Scout? It would be one thing if the Amarr could at least fill its niche well, but if that is negated by the games environment (EWAR Circles which required the Range Mod nerf) and Gallente is generally much better, than the Amarr consequently becomes worthless aside from Amarr die hards, and people looking for a challenge.
That in no way says to me "great suit," or even "good suit."
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
1785
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Posted - 2015.02.18 04:05:00 -
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Warlords 1.1 now has a tentative deployment date set for April/May
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2015.02.18 04:56:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote: What I meant was, that there are very very few people running Amarr scout.
In the past month I have been killed by scouts in around this order.
Amarr. Minmatar. Gallente. Caldari.
I am planning on going into it myself. The Militia frame is quite fun, and I do want to skill farther into it.
Here I go... skilling into everything else relying on my mountain of LP protos for any upcoming PC.
Quoth the Raven "Nevermore!" - Edgar Allan Poe
CCP Falcon has betrayed me... twice.
I will steal his hamsters!
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