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Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1319	Posted - 2015.01.18 06:07:00 - [27631] - Quote I revisited the Magsec on a minja in light of all the talk about it today and changed my mind a little bit. It's pretty awful when it's on a lighter suit. The only reason I was doing so well with it on my forge fit was because all that health let me stand still and aim carefully. In the midst of a big fight when you're bouncing all over the place trying to avoid getting hit it's pretty bad. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Pagl1u M Dead Man's Game RUST415 1355	Posted - 2015.01.18 11:57:00 - [27632] - Quote Hello brave scouts that live in the Barbershop, I'm here because I need your help. I'm planning on creating a thread about WP rewards and stuff and I need to understand the true role of every class in the game. Where should I find infos about scouts if not here? I would like you to put the following in order of importance: killing, Hacking, using equipments, destroying equipments, defending Null Cannons, attacking Null Cannons, AV. If you can thing of other roles a scout fulfill add them, I'm mostly talking about things that can be rewarded by WPs. Thank you. One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 1260	Posted - 2015.01.18 13:00:00 - [27633] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: Hello brave scouts that live in the Barbershop, I'm here because I need your help. I'm planning on creating a thread about WP rewards and stuff and I need to understand the true role of every class in the game. Where should I find infos about scouts if not here? I would like you to put the following in order of importance: killing, Hacking, using equipments, destroying equipments, defending Null Cannons, attacking Null Cannons, AV. If you can thing of other roles a scout fulfill add them, I'm mostly talking about things that can be rewarded by WPs. Thank you. Bonjourno Mr Pagl1u M 1. killing (CQC / Assassination) 2. hacking 3. point defense 4. decoy / bait 5. pushing objectives 6. equipment 7. AV A couple of points on my reasons: 1. It's an FPS. I don't care for those opinions that say a scout is for scouting which means recon. Personally I think that's BS and none of us would be here if that was what they were for. However they should only be good for CQC (and I mean <10m) and assassinations (using stealth to stab with high alpha weapons) 2. scouts are designed to be mobile and quick. Some also have hack bonuses. Only one game mode doesn't require hacking to win the game, two do, and those are the ones I play 99% of the time. Solo hacking a point away from a main fight can make the difference between winning and losing 3. Not that I do it much, but scouts with natural speed and EWAR can defend a null cannon effectively due to being hard to detect, and typically favouring high alpha weapons. 4. Pushing objectives isn't really something a scout can do - they are better off skulking round the flanks, perhaps as a decoy or bait. They don't have enough HP to push with a blob. I added this to the list. 5. I used to use REs but haven't skilled into those at the moment, mainly coz I can't fit them. I don't use a cloak either. Others here will likely place this higher up the list. 6. Anyone can AV, other roles can do it better. Scout may have a slight advantage due to speed but generally I don't think they should care about AV any more than the next non-AV-specialised class. Though if you throw (scuse the pun) the REs (especially the new REs) into the mix, this could get bumped higher. But that is equipment anyway. My two-penneth You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
noob cavman And the ButtPirates 1997	Posted - 2015.01.18 13:22:00 - [27634] - Quote Fps= murder them all! But seriously dunc hit the nail on the head with his order. The only real time you can push a objective is with a a freindly watching your back or being a minja with the right set up to ninja hack then gtfo I want to be a caveman! Ccp: LEGION Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 20859	Posted - 2015.01.18 15:59:00 - [27635] - Quote Level 5 minja get! Sometimes, one just has an overwhelming urge to throw a potato at someone.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 7251	Posted - 2015.01.18 20:26:00 - [27636] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: Hello brave scouts that live in the Barbershop, I'm here because I need your help. I'm planning on creating a thread about WP rewards and stuff and I need to understand the true role of every class in the game. Where should I find infos about scouts if not here? I would like you to put the following in order of importance: killing, Hacking, using equipments, destroying equipments, defending Null Cannons, attacking Null Cannons, AV. If you can thing of other roles a scout fulfill add them, I'm mostly talking about things that can be rewarded by WPs. Thank you. 1) Hacking I run a Minja, and I have always seen hacking, and I always play Skirmish, so I am biased here. 2) Killing. Its hard to hack or defend hacked points/objectives without killing, asking them to kindly go never seems to work. 3) Defending/Attacking Null Cannons. You can only do this to a point. If a Null Cannon is too well defended, you cannot attack it alone. If the console is too enclosed, its best not to even attempt with a group. If defending, it depends on the number of people attacking and their relative coordination and skill level. Some are oblivious and let you pick them off one by one. Others stick together, and if they have a scanner you can't even set traps. 4) Using/Destroying EQ Bandwidth has killed EQ (in Pubs at least). There is no point in hunting if its not being laid out, and no point in laying it out if you can use so little so ineffectively. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 20869	Posted - 2015.01.18 20:35:00 - [27637] - Quote I haven't really seen much difference caused by bandwidth tbh. Sometimes, one just has an overwhelming urge to throw a potato at someone.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 7252	Posted - 2015.01.18 21:12:00 - [27638] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I haven't really seen much difference caused by bandwidth tbh. The games I have played had very few options in terms of uplinks. And now that I have greater constraints, I don't bother placing them myself when I would have previously. I can imagine in PC it would be less of an issue as coordination and planning would be taken into consideration. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3561	Posted - 2015.01.18 21:23:00 - [27639] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: Hello brave scouts that live in the Barbershop, I'm here because I need your help. I'm planning on creating a thread about WP rewards and stuff and I need to understand the true role of every class in the game. Where should I find infos about scouts if not here? I would like you to put the following in order of importance: killing, Hacking, using equipments, destroying equipments, defending Null Cannons, attacking Null Cannons, AV. If you can thing of other roles a scout fulfill add them, I'm mostly talking about things that can be rewarded by WPs. Thank you. 1. Using EQ's, mainly just links 2. Defending Null Cannons: We still have somewhat ghost-like abilities, therefore, for an outside point, we can make it look undefended, and get a few cheap kills when some poor scrub tries to hack it. 3. Hacking: This ties with the above for me as a minja, and is really the only reason one would run one in a PC. The speed hacks are really good, if you can get them down. 4. Killing. Scouts aren't very good slayers anymore, but they are still better than Logis and commandos. Shotgunning is also something Ive always been partial to. 5. Destroying EQ: This is every roles job, but scouts are naturally good at it because of passives. I wouldn't put it as a main job though, as everyone has to contribute to destroying links and hives. 6. Attacking Null Cannons: A scout blitzkrieg used to be a lot more fearsome, but they can help with flanking while the assaults catch up, to soften up hard targets like Sentinels that may be entrenched around an objective. 7. AV: No reason to use anything but commandos and sentinels for AV. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 20874	Posted - 2015.01.18 22:31:00 - [27640] - Quote I believe that makes it 1-0 in my favour with the knives, noob cavman. Sometimes, one just has an overwhelming urge to throw a potato at someone.

Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 1806	Posted - 2015.01.18 22:37:00 - [27641] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I haven't really seen much difference caused by bandwidth tbh. Before Bandwidth, my Uplink runner could set 5 Uplinks. Now, he can set 1.
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 1265	Posted - 2015.01.18 22:45:00 - [27642] - Quote Vitantur Nothus wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I haven't really seen much difference caused by bandwidth tbh. Before Bandwidth, my Uplink runner could set 5 Uplinks. Now, he can set 1. before bandwidth i only needed to set one or two. now, i only need to set one or two :-p perhaps its to do with domination although i rarely set any in skirm. btw my uplink runner can set two proto uplinks last i looked. he is a min scout. adv i believe. did i get that wrong? You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5579	Posted - 2015.01.18 23:05:00 - [27643] - Quote Vitantur Nothus wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I haven't really seen much difference caused by bandwidth tbh. Before Bandwidth, my Uplink runner could set 5 Uplinks. Now, he can set 1. I'm not convinced that that's a bad thing. What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 7252	Posted - 2015.01.18 23:14:00 - [27644] - Quote Spademan wrote: Vitantur Nothus wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I haven't really seen much difference caused by bandwidth tbh. Before Bandwidth, my Uplink runner could set 5 Uplinks. Now, he can set 1. I'm not convinced that that's a bad thing. If you are on the stomping side, its no problem. If your team is getting stomped, every uplink counts. Particularly in Skirmish. I didn't particularly care for the spam, but I think the nerf was over done. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 20874	Posted - 2015.01.18 23:18:00 - [27645] - Quote Minja'ing has proven entertaining. I have, however, found it depressingly squishy. So much so, in fact, that I died three times to a HMG while coming up behind the fellow without him even turning around. Sometimes, one just has an overwhelming urge to throw a potato at someone.
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5579	Posted - 2015.01.18 23:26:00 - [27646] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Spademan wrote: Vitantur Nothus wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I haven't really seen much difference caused by bandwidth tbh. Before Bandwidth, my Uplink runner could set 5 Uplinks. Now, he can set 1. I'm not convinced that that's a bad thing. If you are on the stomping side, its no problem. If your team is getting stomped, every uplink counts. Particularly in Skirmish. I didn't particularly care for the spam, but I think the nerf was over done. When you're getting stomped, quantity doesn't count for ****. All you need really is one well placed uplink to get you out of the hole. Maybe two (Which an adv scout can do) What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 1806	Posted - 2015.01.18 23:34:00 - [27647] - Quote Spademan wrote: Vitantur Nothus wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I haven't really seen much difference caused by bandwidth tbh. Before Bandwidth, my Uplink runner could set 5 Uplinks. Now, he can set 1. I'm not convinced that that's a bad thing. Completely agree. Only pointing out that it is a pretty significant difference. IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: btw my uplink runner can set two proto uplinks last i looked. he is a min scout. adv i believe. did i get that wrong? Excellent point. My "oh, snap! we're getting spawn-camped / red-lined" uplink runner is a Dragonfly Scout. It can maintain only one Viziam Flux Uplink. It's very likely that I watched my 2nd UL fizzle while running the D-fly and assumed the rule "one UL at a time".
Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1322	Posted - 2015.01.18 23:39:00 - [27648] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Minja'ing has proven entertaining. I have, however, found it depressingly squishy. So much so, in fact, that I died three times to a HMG while coming up behind the fellow without him even turning around. That is the way of the Minja. We must embrace the pain and burn it as fuel on our journey. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 7254	Posted - 2015.01.18 23:49:00 - [27649] - Quote Spademan wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Spademan wrote: Vitantur Nothus wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I haven't really seen much difference caused by bandwidth tbh. Before Bandwidth, my Uplink runner could set 5 Uplinks. Now, he can set 1. I'm not convinced that that's a bad thing. If you are on the stomping side, its no problem. If your team is getting stomped, every uplink counts. Particularly in Skirmish. I didn't particularly care for the spam, but I think the nerf was over done. When you're getting stomped, quantity doesn't count for ****. All you need really is one well placed uplink to get you out of the hole. Maybe two (Which an adv scout can do) Depends on how they are deployed. I never set them near each other, so if one uplink got taken out, there was still another. Then I got another set of adv links and set them up near other objectives. When you are getting stomped, getting your team multiple spawn points and forcing your enemy to spread out gives you more of a fighting chance. At least it used to. Maybe not with todays stomps though. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 1806	Posted - 2015.01.18 23:54:00 - [27650] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: Hello brave scouts that live in the Barbershop, I'm here because I need your help. I'm planning on creating a thread about WP rewards and stuff and I need to understand the true role of every class in the game. Where should I find infos about scouts if not here? I would like you to put the following in order of importance: killing, Hacking, using equipments, destroying equipments, defending Null Cannons, attacking Null Cannons, AV. If you can thing of other roles a scout fulfill add them, I'm mostly talking about things that can be rewarded by WPs. Thank you. 1. Killing. The primary function of combat infantry is to engage and destroy other combat infantry. Different types of combat infantry excel in different combat settings. Heavy and Sentinel units excel in engaging from defensive position. Medium and Assault units excel in frontal attacks. Light and Scout units excel in flank and surprise attacks. 2. Everything else.

One Eyed King Land of the BIind 7255	Posted - 2015.01.18 23:54:00 - [27651] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Minja'ing has proven entertaining. I have, however, found it depressingly squishy. So much so, in fact, that I died three times to a HMG while coming up behind the fellow without him even turning around. Welcome to my life. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5580	Posted - 2015.01.18 23:56:00 - [27652] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Depends on how they are deployed. I never set them near each other, so if one uplink got taken out, there was still another. Then I got another set of adv links and set them up near other objectives. When you are getting stomped, getting your team multiple spawn points and forcing your enemy to spread out gives you more of a fighting chance. At least it used to. Maybe not with todays stomps though. If you're getting stomped, there's a high chance you've got a bunch of newbies on your team. You separate them and they're just sheep waiting for the wolves to get them. You keep 'em together though, on some high ground maybe then they're going to give the stompers a run for their money. If they can't kill a few like that, then they're completely hopeless if you separate them. But if they can, they learn. They become better, they know that they can still kill the uber players if they stick together and position themselves right. Never separate a newbie from the rest, they won't last. (That's my take anyway) What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 20876	Posted - 2015.01.18 23:58:00 - [27653] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Minja'ing has proven entertaining. I have, however, found it depressingly squishy. So much so, in fact, that I died three times to a HMG while coming up behind the fellow without him even turning around. Same happens to my Calscout. I must be doing something wrong by staying out of the heavy's line of sight. TBH I don't feel nearly as squishy in the Calscout. I figure the extra ~130 shields helps, but the Calscout has always been oddly survivable for me. But it's not a ninja and it's not as uberfast. Most importantly, it doesn't have the style! Sometimes, one just has an overwhelming urge to throw a potato at someone.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 7255	Posted - 2015.01.18 23:59:00 - [27654] - Quote Spademan wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Depends on how they are deployed. I never set them near each other, so if one uplink got taken out, there was still another. Then I got another set of adv links and set them up near other objectives. When you are getting stomped, getting your team multiple spawn points and forcing your enemy to spread out gives you more of a fighting chance. At least it used to. Maybe not with todays stomps though. If you're getting stomped, there's a high chance you've got a bunch of newbies on your team. You separate them and they're just sheep waiting for the wolves to get them. You keep 'em together though, on some high ground maybe then they're going to give the stompers a run for their money. If they can't kill a few like that, then they're completely hopeless if you separate them. But if they can, they learn. They become better, they know that they can still kill the uber players if they stick together and position themselves right. Never separate a newbie from the rest, they won't last. (That's my take anyway) That is true too. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 1807	Posted - 2015.01.19 00:18:00 - [27655] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: ... but the Calscout has always been oddly survivable for me. It's not just you, buddy. The thing comes with the wiggle-wiggle built in and +10 evasion.
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5582	Posted - 2015.01.19 00:19:00 - [27656] - Quote Vitantur Nothus wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: ... but the Calscout has always been oddly survivable for me. It's not just you, buddy. The thing comes with the wiggle-wiggle built in and +10 evasion. Sometimes it seems like the hitbox on that thing is horizontal and not the vertical it should be. What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 1807	Posted - 2015.01.19 00:28:00 - [27657] - Quote Spademan wrote: Vitantur Nothus wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: ... but the Calscout has always been oddly survivable for me. It's not just you, buddy. The thing comes with the wiggle-wiggle built in and +10 evasion. Sometimes it seems like the hitbox on that thing is horizontal and not the vertical it should be. It's the bullet-proof arms. Use special ability: vigorous flail to deflect a percentage of incoming fire.
sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 2669	Posted - 2015.01.19 00:43:00 - [27658] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Minja'ing has proven entertaining. I have, however, found it depressingly squishy. So much so, in fact, that I died three times to a HMG while coming up behind the fellow without him even turning around. Same happens to my Calscout. I must be doing something wrong by staying out of the heavy's line of sight. TBH I don't feel nearly as squishy in the Calscout. I figure the extra ~130 shields helps, but the Calscout has always been oddly survivable for me. But it's not a ninja and it's not as uberfast. Most importantly, it doesn't have the style! 1, My assault can keep up with a Minassault and sometimes even a Minja, just imagine what I will be doing to my scout. . 2, Caldari Scout looks pretty damn good, only beaten by the Gallente scout. (Could be the nostalgia talking there.) The Minmatar scout looks just terrible. Fell down the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way. 3, I think I may have found why strafing works. The hitbox seems to lag behind on faster models, anyone up to test this out with me in FW? 4, Speed is addicting, isn't it? Speed is love... Speed is... still not helping me survive the HMGs. Why is it so quiet? Where is everyone? It's unbearable... So quiet...
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 1809	Posted - 2015.01.19 01:00:00 - [27659] - Quote The speed gap between Assault and Scout is likely too narrow. But if it keeps the mouthbreathers out of the bar ...
sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 2670	Posted - 2015.01.19 01:08:00 - [27660] - Quote Why must it be so hard to find test subjects... erm I mean helpers... to help me? Why is it so quiet? Where is everyone? It's unbearable... So quiet...



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