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Cass Caul
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Posted - 2014.11.24 22:56:00 -
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Bayeth Mal wrote:Turns out there's no point asking for shared passive removal. Apparently it's too difficult and will take too long (according to a CPM)
Alright, well, I'm out. These endless ewar balance discussions are really just going nowhere.
Rattati actually said that in a thread. Then he said it again, because people were ignoring it. Then he said it again because people don't pay attention.
"EWAR Mixup" i think is the title of that thread.
The problem really stems from the people working on dust weren't hired to be code monkeys
So, interesting problem. My old computer died. It was the power supply. Did I mention it was old? Because I got a replacement one but the cords were too short and the actual piece is literally half the size in length and height. So it doesn't actually fit.
But I took out a hard drive and stacked it in a place it doesn't fit, the cords are sort of bulging so the case doesn't close. . . but it works >.> |
Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
652
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Posted - 2014.11.25 04:44:00 -
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So what do you think Cat's up to in here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByLpG42z7QGHRFNvTmtTbFRRYmM/view?pli=1
Is that a buff the Focused Scanner? A nerf to Scout Base Scan Profile? A buff to Logi Base Scan Precision?
Hard to tell what else without reverse engineering Haerr's chart. Whatever it is, it has Zatara interested: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2479158#post2479158
@ Haerr
Is there a "show input" button we can click to see the specific tweaks these guys are proposing? I think transparency would be helpful in weighing the ups and downs. |
sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
463
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Posted - 2014.11.25 05:06:00 -
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Only one post on this page? I must change that. I finally was noticed by a dev (or my post was at least.) And RR is being fixed!
DO NOT IGNORE MY SIG!
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First Prophet
Nos Nothi
1984
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Posted - 2014.11.25 06:12:00 -
[25624] - Quote
So how about that Dragon Age?
People find this this review helpful!
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
8233
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Posted - 2014.11.25 06:14:00 -
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Oh, the things you find on reddit.
http://i.imgur.com/kkR2Nrc.gif
Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in!
FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
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Cass Caul
1726
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Posted - 2014.11.25 07:17:00 -
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I can never tell what is up with hearr's charts. Too many colors. I really wasn't exaggerating that much by the colors causing me physical pain. At a glance it's magnifying the close-range precision to the point where stealth is useless. People really hate that anyone can get the jump on them. The majority of players won't be satisfied unless the Gallente and Amarr need to sacrifice all 4 low slots to participate in stealth, then defend themselves by screaming "But it's only in outlier cases!" Refusing to admit that people min-max suits for maximum precision because their too ******* pathetic to actually pay attention to their surroundings.
It follows the color code. Darker the brown the lower the precision/higher number of dampeners needed.
0.625 is the multiplier for the inner circle. Kept scouts at 20m base and increased Assault to 16m... honestly didn't pay attention to Sent/Mando/Logi base range.
On page 6 it shows that A Gallente Scout with a 4x Complex Damps and the Ishukone Cloak is the only way to avoid an Amarr Scout with 2 complex precision enhancers. Given range amps they can invalidate stealth up to 32m by sitting in a corner. Totally protected as they don't have to worry about anyone sneaking up on their meat-shields
Because, you know, the only counter to sentinel spam was REs & surprise attacks. Good job. Wonderful solution right there, eliminating the only counter. |
sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
470
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Posted - 2014.11.25 07:54:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:Kinkiness: Amarr > Gallente > Minmatar > Caldari
Fun in bed: Amarr/Gallente > Caldari > Minmatar
Best one-night-stand: Gallente > Amarr > Minmatar > Caldari
knocks you up and doesn't come back: Minmatar
Caldari only has a minor advantage over the minmatar when if comes to fun because it's always a good time breaking someone introducing someone to bedroom accessories. You Gallenteans always underestimate the sexual prowess of an individual Civire. Seemly endless stamina ensure the Civire can easily outlast any Gallente! (Yeah so my internet went out for awhile...)
Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the Raider Scout's colour.
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Jebus McKing
Jebus Hates Scans
1070
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Posted - 2014.11.25 10:11:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Is there a "show input" button we can click to see the specific tweaks these guys are proposing? I think transparency would be helpful in weighing the ups and downs. Not Haerr, but you can see all the changed stats on the "input" tab.
Also, **** you, Haerr, and your Pilot suits!
Assault / Logi / Scout / Sentinel // @JebusMcKing G£î
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Haerr
2009
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Posted - 2014.11.25 11:59:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:link Too many colors. clicked the link bar said .xlsx prepared for the worst imaginable scenario still wasn't prepared whinged closed the tab
no need to reverse engineer anything, I am still around-ish, and still happy to help
Input sheet - and puts skill efficacy bonus on modules (not suit bonuses)
Output sheet - takes the numbers from the Input sheet
Dampeners sheet - uses a counter and compares the dampeners to the scanners to see which is the lowest combination that can avoid the scanner - the number that the counter outputs (cell value) is used for the 'conditional formatting' rules -- which the script uses to colour the text sheet - the number that the counter outputs is also used for the Text sheet - the conditional formatting rules effect both sheets thanks to the script
The script - has comments in it that says what it does -- first it sorts the scanners by highest dB in long column, then medium, then short -- second it copies the background colours of the first column onto the short, medium, and long columns -- third it copies the background colours of the Dampeners sheet onto the Text sheet
@Cass The conditional formatting rules on the Dampeners sheet is a handy, and quick, way of changing the colouring of the tables.
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Haerr
2009
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Posted - 2014.11.25 12:05:00 -
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Jebus McKing wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:Is there a "show input" button we can click to see the specific tweaks these guys are proposing? I think transparency would be helpful in weighing the ups and downs. Not Haerr, but you can see all the changed stats on the "input" tab. Also, **** you, Haerr, and your Pilot suits! EDIT: Bascially Cat Merc wants to nerf scouts EWAR base stats, buff assault profile and scanranges. (Cat Mercs Assault scanrange = 24m and on top the long range modifier is 130%... lol) NEED MOA SCNAZ NAO! Wait your not my alt? So confused right now... :-/
PILOT SUIT! PIRATE SUIT! PIRATE PILOT SUIT! also PIRATE TANKS!
So Scouts are supposed to run with all Dampeners to remain dampened while in the optimal range of their weapons while Assaults will only need 3 Dampeners to remain dampened while in the optimal range of their weapons Sounds about right, let's do that.
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
661
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Posted - 2014.11.25 14:01:00 -
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Haerr wrote: So Scouts are supposed to run with all Dampeners to remain dampened while in the optimal range of their weapons. But should still get scanned by Focused Scanners. And should also get scanned when entering anyone's inner circle. This way, any nearby squaddies can see the blip and kill the Scout if he happens to succeed in a backstab. Ohhhh! And Shield Extenders should counteract Profile Dampeners. This way Scouts can be balanced after we gift their Scan Precision to Logis.
And Assaults will only need 3 Dampeners to remain dampened while in the optimal range of their weapons.
Sounds about right, let's do that.
FTFY
Assaults: What I really need is to be able to beat scans like a Scout while maintaining 2x to 4x the dampened Scout's HP. This way I can sneak about like a Scout but still do my job and slay toe-to-toe effectively.
Logis: What I really need is to be able to scan like a Scout while maintaining 2x to 4x the recon Scout's HP. This way I can see everything and share what I see while I repslave for my two heavies, and still have to respond if a shotgunner happens to get the drop on me. |
Jebus McKing
Jebus Hates Scans
1075
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Posted - 2014.11.25 14:27:00 -
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REMOVE ALL THE SCANS!
SCANS ARE A CRUTCH FOR SCRUBS!
YES I SAID THOSE WORDS!
~C~R~U~T~C~H~ ~F~O~R~ ~S~C~R~U~B~S~
Back in the days, when I was playing Quake or UT, I knew where the enemy would be because over time I learned to anticipate where they would go next, not because some red arrow told me to "GO HERE, SHOOT THIS".
Assault / Logi / Scout / Sentinel // @JebusMcKing G£î
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
661
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Posted - 2014.11.25 14:34:00 -
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Jebus Says: I don't even want to bother with damps on my Assault anymore. I need my King HP intact so I can have a chance against Heavies and Amarr Assaults. Those armored monsters don't give a hot damn about damps, and I don't stand a chance against them if I have to sacrifice HP for sneakiness.
So: Take away all scans so no one has to bother with damps. Go King HP, go Biotics or go home.
I Say: Why not take a swing at King HP? Give those armor monsters some drawbacks. Get the drop on 'em from behind in your sneak-o-matic Assault and actually win.
And what comes of AM/CA Scouts, Jebus, if EWAR is scrapped?
:: Sharpens Knives :: |
Jebus McKing
Jebus Hates Scans
1076
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:19:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Jebus May Think: I don't even want to bother with damps on my Assault anymore. I need my King HP intact so I can have a chance against Heavies and Amarr Assaults. Those armored monsters don't give a hot damn about damps, and I don't stand a chance against them if I have to sacrifice HP for sneakiness. Nah, I prefer speed and regen. Together with CR and REs I'm still doing fine against Heavies if they don't have a scanner bro giving away my position. Heavy has to sacrifice nothing, still gets scans from his scanner bro. And I already need to use 2x damps to avoid GA/AM even if they don't have a single precision mod. That hardly seems right.
Vitantur Nothus wrote:Which Would Explain Jebus Saying: Take away all scans so no one has to bother with damps. Go King HP, go Biotics or go home. Nah, I bother with damps an... wait... here comes the GALLOGI SCAN MONSTER! NOWHERE TO GO NOWHERE TO HIDE AND THE WHOLE ENEMY TEAM CAN SEE YOU. GeeGee. Might aswell stack HP then. Want a hit-and-run suit which uses HPregen over KingHP? Too bad! Enemy team can see you coming! Always. Play scout or stack HP!
Vitantur Nothus wrote:I Say: Why not take a swing at King HP? Give those armor monsters some drawbacks. Get the drop on 'em from behind in your sneak-o-matic Assault and actually win. Aye, I have no problem with giving HP stacking some sort of drawback. But I'd rather see the other modules made better than plainly nerfing HP modules. I can see why so many people stack HP. Compared to what you have to give up most other modules are hardly worth it. But, yea, it's easier to give a ridiculous penalty with possible unforseen consequences (i.e. strafe speed penalty hitting all minmatar suits much harder than anyone else) to HP modules instead of investing some time and effort into making the rest of the modules useful.
Vitantur Nothus wrote:And what comes of AM/CA Scouts, Jebus, if EWAR is scrapped? dunno probably gonna run 2x regulators on my CA Scout
Vitantur Nothus wrote::: Sharpens Knives :: *runs*
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On a serious note, I think the "KingHP" is a direct result of scans. HP is most of the time the only thing that will save you if your enemy always knows your location. That said, I also don't think that we'd immediately see less people stacking HP if hiding from scans becomes easier. But at least we could make other playstyles more viable.
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Assault / Logi / Scout / Sentinel // @JebusMcKing G£î
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
666
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:42:00 -
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Love me some Jebus. Good stuff, sir.
Dumped bunches SP to test drive that very fit. Dual complex regulators on a CalScout! Fully expected to it be an overpowered death machine; man, was I disappointed. Tried every conceivable variation in my highs. All poop. In my humble opinion, there's much more utility to be found elsewhere. Kincats, damps, range extenders, plates ... all more useful than Regs to a CalScout.
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
4626
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:55:00 -
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String of ideas: Remove onscreen blips from passive scanning, keep for eyesight and active. Remove shared (I know, but I'm latching onto this like a pitbull) Give each suit one EWar stat on par with a scout.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
669
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Posted - 2014.11.25 18:34:00 -
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Spademan wrote: Give each suit one EWar stat on par with a scout.
Le Quandary ...
If I can have 1000HP and scan like an AM Scout, why would I run a squishy AM Scout? If I can have 1000HP and sneak about like a GA Scout, why would I ever run a squishy GA Scout? |
Jebus McKing
Jebus Hates Scans
1080
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:00:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Love me some Jebus. Good stuff, sir.
Dumped bunches SP to test drive that very fit. Dual complex regulators on a CalScout! Fully expected to it be an overpowered death machine; man, was I disappointed. Tried every conceivable variation in my highs. All poop. In my humble opinion, there's much more utility to be found elsewhere. Kincats, damps, range extenders, plates ... all more useful than Regs to a CalScout.
True. Regs are one of those modules which I think could need some love. Most of the time you are dead before your regen kicks in even if your delay is only ~1s, in which case plates would've been more useful.
But if you stack lots of KingHP on your CalScout, to have some buffer, it can be quite fun to run 2x regs.
But kin cats are probably a better choice after all. Which is why I am proposing this.
Assault / Logi / Scout / Sentinel // @JebusMcKing G£î
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
4628
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:19:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Spademan wrote: Give each suit one EWar stat on par with a scout.
Le Quandary ... If I can have 1000HP and share scans like an AM Scout, why would I run a squishy AM Scout? Give it to the precision to the Logi and Commando, make them have particularly bad stats in other EWar. Run Logi for equips+Precision, run 'Mando for Health/damage+Precision, Amarr for Precision+Range/Precision+Damps/Precision+Biotics
Quote:If I can have 1000HP and sneak about like a GA Scout, why would I run a squishy GA Scout? Give profile to Assaults. They have to choose between health or stealth.
Also, I'm not suggesting an assault stealths as well as a Gallente Scout. I'm more of the mind that they could stealth to the degree that the other scouts can. Same with the other suits and their respective EWar.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Cass Caul
1730
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:59:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Love me some Jebus. Good stuff, sir.
Dumped bunches SP to test drive that very fit. Dual complex regulators on a CalScout! Fully expected to it be an overpowered death machine; man, was I disappointed. Tried every conceivable variation in my highs. All poop. In my humble opinion, there's much more utility to be found elsewhere. Kincats, damps, range extenders, plates ... all more useful than Regs to a CalScout.
Fixed that for you.
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Haerr
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
2023
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Posted - 2014.11.25 21:30:00 -
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"Super Secret" Currently you can change the Federation 'Spartan' Assault fitting. Made a few fittings using all BPOs... Lets see if / when this gets fixed!
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
1246
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Posted - 2014.11.25 21:58:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:Kinkiness: Amarr > Gallente > Minmatar > Caldari
Fun in bed: Amarr/Gallente > Caldari > Minmatar
Best one-night-stand: Gallente > Amarr > Minmatar > Caldari
knocks you up and doesn't come back: Minmatar
Caldari only has a minor advantage over the minmatar when if comes to fun because it's always a good time breaking someone introducing someone to bedroom accessories.
I read this and all I could think was... my SG still misses the target. XD
TLDR : No
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
487
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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:05:00 -
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Haerr wrote:"Super Secret"Currently you can change the Federation 'Spartan' Assault fitting. Made a few fittings using all BPOs... Lets see if / when this gets fixed! Caldari Suits still obsolete... More to come on "CCP is Gallente based' Stay tuned We need something good... the Spartan, BrAR, SG, Serpent, Dropships... why do the Gallente get all the good buffs?
Oh wait... My RR will be fixed! The next time I get on (after the hotfix that fixes the RR) I will start mowing down everyone! (Staying at optimal range that is)
Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the Raider Scout's colour.
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
674
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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:22:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Haerr wrote:"Super Secret"Currently you can change the Federation 'Spartan' Assault fitting. Made a few fittings using all BPOs... Lets see if / when this gets fixed! Caldari Suits still obsolete... More to come on "CCP is Gallente based' Stay tuned
Two of Top Three best selling suits are Caldari. http://dust.thang.dk/market_tryhardinator.php
^ Take a look at Low Slots, guys.
Each of the Top 10 are King HP. Adding up those percentages totals 99.9% of Low Slot sales. EWAR, Biotics, Shield Regs ... added all together account for .1% of module sales. |
Spademan
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
4629
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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:24:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Cass Caul wrote:Kinkiness: Amarr > Gallente > Minmatar > Caldari
Fun in bed: Amarr/Gallente > Caldari > Minmatar
Best one-night-stand: Gallente > Amarr > Minmatar > Caldari
knocks you up and doesn't come back: Minmatar
Caldari only has a minor advantage over the minmatar when if comes to fun because it's always a good time breaking someone introducing someone to bedroom accessories. I read this and all I could think was... my SG still misses the target. XD That's the thing about you Gallente, it's more like a large spread.
#IntakiForLife
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
5564
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Posted - 2014.11.25 23:01:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Cass Caul wrote:Kinkiness: Amarr > Gallente > Minmatar > Caldari
Fun in bed: Amarr/Gallente > Caldari > Minmatar
Best one-night-stand: Gallente > Amarr > Minmatar > Caldari
knocks you up and doesn't come back: Minmatar
Caldari only has a minor advantage over the minmatar when if comes to fun because it's always a good time breaking someone introducing someone to bedroom accessories. I read this and all I could think was... my SG still misses the target. XD You are firing prematurelyGǪ you need to be patient and get in closer
MOAR Ladders
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
8264
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Posted - 2014.11.26 01:12:00 -
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Anyone else reading the released Ferguson documents?
Really interesting reads. Papers basically confirm that there was a struggle in the car, resulting in the officer shooting Brown in the hand. Toxicology suggest that Brown was impaired at the time, due to THC levels in his blood (THC is Weed by the way). Crime Lab report says he also had weed on him at the time.
After reading through the Toxicology, Autopsies and crime scene papers, I can understand why the Grand Jury decided that there wasn't enough evidence to go through with the charges.
Link for those who want to read. Scroll to the bottom. Roughly 72 documents to read.
Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in!
FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6163
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Posted - 2014.11.26 01:29:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Cass Caul wrote:Kinkiness: Amarr > Gallente > Minmatar > Caldari
Fun in bed: Amarr/Gallente > Caldari > Minmatar
Best one-night-stand: Gallente > Amarr > Minmatar > Caldari
knocks you up and doesn't come back: Minmatar
Caldari only has a minor advantage over the minmatar when if comes to fun because it's always a good time breaking someone introducing someone to bedroom accessories. I read this and all I could think was... my SG still misses the target. XD You are firing prematurelyGǪ you need to be patient and get in closer If you are having problems with your aim at point blank range, maybe you need more practice by yourself at the gun range.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
488
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Posted - 2014.11.26 01:33:00 -
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Spademan wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Cass Caul wrote:Kinkiness: Amarr > Gallente > Minmatar > Caldari
Fun in bed: Amarr/Gallente > Caldari > Minmatar
Best one-night-stand: Gallente > Amarr > Minmatar > Caldari
knocks you up and doesn't come back: Minmatar
Caldari only has a minor advantage over the minmatar when if comes to fun because it's always a good time breaking someone introducing someone to bedroom accessories. I read this and all I could think was... my SG still misses the target. XD That's the thing about you Gallente, it's more like a large spread. #IntakiForLife Some Intaki had sense and supported the Caldari... Gallente still control them as a Bloodline, but have proven superior to the Gallente. Civire > Intaki> Ethnic Gallente.
Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the Raider Scout's colour.
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Cass Caul
1732
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Posted - 2014.11.26 02:08:00 -
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zaibatsu, the basis for the caldari empire. That's why they need to be nuked, so that their culture can flourish.
Also, still missing the old pre-incarna intaki avatars. Mine looked to cool! |
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