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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:

Oswald Rehnquist wrote:

mollerz wrote:

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I think many people are not grasping what I am saying. A swipe of the knives does no damage. A "charged swipe" would. It is a plasma cutter at that point, not a knife.

The knife radiates energy and thus is non directional, meaning it can't get through the tankers armor no matter how many swipes because you are limited by the knifes limited blade length. A tank with small pockets in it (not fully piercing the armor) would still be structurally sound.

Also the knife is not like a plasma cutter because of the lack of directional energy, meaning the pressure still comes from the force exerted by the arm, meaning any substantially thick steel matter would require a long physical press to even get through something.

This talk about plasma, energy, etc makes me think of a random idea to bounce off you guys.

What if charged nova knives emitted an energy wave from the swipes that gives them slightly extended range when charged, to deal with backpedallers?

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Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 2572	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:45:00 - [9361] - Quote Nyra Volki wrote: Games all day! I love sports but watching them is boring. I'm gonna watch toradara! and finish my paper for my Writing class. Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
mollerz Minja Scouts 2241	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:57:00 - [9362] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: As a knifer, I would love it. But it is actually one of the few areas of this game that currently make any sort of sense. There is no knife on this planet that would allow me to go up to a Sherman tank and do some damage. I just wish the rest of this game could come up to the level of common sense as that. Esp regarding the 3rd person perspective on vehicles. Correct. Your facts are sound, but your analogy is not. First, this is not earth :). These are not sherman tanks- they are futuristic make believe tanks. And that ain'tt a knife. THIS is a knife. I think many people are not grasping what I am saying. A swipe of the knives does no damage. A "charged swipe" would. It is a plasma cutter at that point, not a knife. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:08:00 - [9363] - Quote mollerz wrote: One Eyed King wrote: As a knifer, I would love it. But it is actually one of the few areas of this game that currently make any sort of sense. There is no knife on this planet that would allow me to go up to a Sherman tank and do some damage. I just wish the rest of this game could come up to the level of common sense as that. Esp regarding the 3rd person perspective on vehicles. Correct. Your facts are sound, but your analogy is not. First, this is not earth :). These are not sherman tanks- they are futuristic make believe tanks. And that ain'tt a knife. THIS is a knife. I think many people are not grasping what I am saying. A swipe of the knives does no damage. A "charged swipe" would. It is a plasma cutter at that point, not a knife. Fair enough, I can handle the charged swipe. But at this point in time, I would rather be able to step up over a 4 inch ledge without having to waste stamina and jump than be able to damage a tank with a charged swipe. This scout thanks you CCP!!!
Ivan Avogadro Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 690	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:08:00 - [9364] - Quote Nyra Volki wrote: Games all day! I love sports but watching them is boring. Put a hundred bucks on the game and see if your opinion changes
voidfaction 131	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:15:00 - [9365] - Quote mollerz wrote: One Eyed King wrote: As a knifer, I would love it. But it is actually one of the few areas of this game that currently make any sort of sense. There is no knife on this planet that would allow me to go up to a Sherman tank and do some damage. I just wish the rest of this game could come up to the level of common sense as that. Esp regarding the 3rd person perspective on vehicles. Correct. Your facts are sound, but your analogy is not. First, this is not earth :). These are not sherman tanks- they are futuristic make believe tanks. And that ain'tt a knife. THIS is a knife. I think many people are not grasping what I am saying. A swipe of the knives does no damage. A "charged swipe" would. It is a plasma cutter at that point, not a knife. plasma cutters are less effective as thickness of metal increases. I would say the NK's are made for cutting thinner infantry armor not thick tank armor. I would still say yea let them do dmg to a tank but with a lot less effectiveness which would also make them not worth trying.
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. 2994	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:17:00 - [9366] - Quote So Allotek Burst Rifle.... might be my new fave Rifle Changes: DPS, range, and damage
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 8861	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:18:00 - [9367] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: So Allotek Burst Rifle.... might be my new fave ... Really? Why not a combat rifle? ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven
Oswald Rehnquist 1206	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:21:00 - [9368] - Quote mollerz wrote: . I think many people are not grasping what I am saying. A swipe of the knives does no damage. A "charged swipe" would. It is a plasma cutter at that point, not a knife. The knife radiates energy and thus is non directional, meaning it can't get through the tankers armor no matter how many swipes because you are limited by the knifes limited blade length. A tank with small pockets in it (not fully piercing the armor) would still be structurally sound. Also the knife is not like a plasma cutter because of the lack of directional energy, meaning the pressure still comes from the force exerted by the arm, meaning any substantially thick steel matter would require a long physical press to even get through something. Below 28 dB
noob cavman Tickle My Null-Sac 523	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:21:00 - [9369] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: So Allotek Burst Rifle.... might be my new fave ... Really? Why not a combat rifle? This is bojo. do not try to understand or look closely at the bojo. for bojo will stare back. I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 8861	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:23:00 - [9370] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: mollerz wrote: . I think many people are not grasping what I am saying. A swipe of the knives does no damage. A "charged swipe" would. It is a plasma cutter at that point, not a knife. The knife radiates energy and thus is non directional, meaning it can't get through the tankers armor no matter how many swipes because you are limited by the knifes limited blade length. A tank with small pockets in it (not fully piercing the armor) would still be structurally sound. Also the knife is not like a plasma cutter because of the lack of directional energy, meaning the pressure still comes from the force exerted by the arm, meaning any substantially thick steel matter would require a long physical press to even get through something. This talk about plasma, energy, etc makes me think of a random idea to bounce off you guys. What if charged nova knives emitted an energy wave from the swipes that gives them slightly extended range when charged, to deal with backpedallers? ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven

Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. 2995	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:25:00 - [9371] - Quote noob cavman wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: So Allotek Burst Rifle.... might be my new fave ... Really? Why not a combat rifle? This is bojo. do not try to understand or look closely at the bojo. for bojo will stare back. Unlike Medusa, gazing into my eyes gets you stoned. I like it because it's a man's weapon, it proves the ultimate point: "I made the game harder on myself to kill you, get good scrub" Rifle Changes: DPS, range, and damage
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:25:00 - [9372] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Oswald Rehnquist wrote: mollerz wrote: . I think many people are not grasping what I am saying. A swipe of the knives does no damage. A "charged swipe" would. It is a plasma cutter at that point, not a knife. The knife radiates energy and thus is non directional, meaning it can't get through the tankers armor no matter how many swipes because you are limited by the knifes limited blade length. A tank with small pockets in it (not fully piercing the armor) would still be structurally sound. Also the knife is not like a plasma cutter because of the lack of directional energy, meaning the pressure still comes from the force exerted by the arm, meaning any substantially thick steel matter would require a long physical press to even get through something. This talk about plasma, energy, etc makes me think of a random idea to bounce off you guys. What if charged nova knives emitted an energy wave from the swipes that gives them slightly extended range when charged, to deal with backpedallers? I would just rather them deal with the back pedaling issue, especially considering how it also effects our shotgun scout family. This scout thanks you CCP!!!
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 413	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:27:00 - [9373] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: mollerz wrote: . I think many people are not grasping what I am saying. A swipe of the knives does no damage. A "charged swipe" would. It is a plasma cutter at that point, not a knife. The knife radiates energy and thus is non directional, meaning it can't get through the tankers armor no matter how many swipes because you are limited by the knifes limited blade length. A tank with small pockets in it (not fully piercing the armor) would still be structurally sound. Also the knife is not like a plasma cutter because of the lack of directional energy, meaning the pressure still comes from the force exerted by the arm, meaning any substantially thick steel matter would require a long physical press to even get through something. As much as I'd love to get together a knife squad and go hunting tanks in pubs (and I would really love to backstab a tank), I'd have to agree with Oswald here. Even if the knives were to pierce tank armor, the damage inflicted would be inconsequential when compared to the entirety of the machine. It would be like stabbing a drop suit with a needle.
Oswald Rehnquist 1206	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:36:00 - [9374] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Oswald Rehnquist wrote: mollerz wrote: . I think many people are not grasping what I am saying. A swipe of the knives does no damage. A "charged swipe" would. It is a plasma cutter at that point, not a knife. The knife radiates energy and thus is non directional, meaning it can't get through the tankers armor no matter how many swipes because you are limited by the knifes limited blade length. A tank with small pockets in it (not fully piercing the armor) would still be structurally sound. Also the knife is not like a plasma cutter because of the lack of directional energy, meaning the pressure still comes from the force exerted by the arm, meaning any substantially thick steel matter would require a long physical press to even get through something. This talk about plasma, energy, etc makes me think of a random idea to bounce off you guys. What if charged nova knives emitted an energy wave from the swipes that gives them slightly extended range when charged, to deal with backpedallers? Now that would make an awesome gallente knife (assuming racial knifes are still on the plan). I personally think the nova knife is operating as 4 knifes in 1. I actually think nova knifes should be re-classed as gallente knifes, with your suggested plasma effect. The Cal knife then should be a single mechanical/magnetic knife that works like a knockout punch driver (thus more effective against armor, also making it a piecing weapon and not a slashing weapon). It would have a spool up (which means you can't hold it or swing it), but do a lot more damage upon strike. Below 28 dB
voidfaction 132	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:44:00 - [9375] - Quote mollerz wrote: I started a thread about knives and tank armor, and was wondering if any other knifer scouts had any input. Of course tankers will QQ over it.. but I really feel it breaks continuity with weapons, damage and tactics. HERE This is what would happen if NK's could cut through anything. OP NK's
J0LLY R0G3R Tickle My Null-Sac 429	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:47:00 - [9376] - Quote Ivan Avogadro wrote: Nyra Volki wrote: Games all day! I love sports but watching them is boring. Put a hundred bucks on the game and see if your opinion changes Ahhhh... I'm wishing I only put a 100 on it at the moment. X( XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 2574	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:50:00 - [9377] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Ivan Avogadro wrote: Nyra Volki wrote: Games all day! I love sports but watching them is boring. Put a hundred bucks on the game and see if your opinion changes Ahhhh... I'm wishing I only put a 100 on it at the moment. X( Update for those who aren't at parties and writing a paper? Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Supra Advyn Nos Nothi 80	Posted - 2014.02.03 01:04:00 - [9378] - Quote @1/2 time, 22 seahawks / 0 Broncos Mollerz? you should know by now....
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. 2996	Posted - 2014.02.03 01:21:00 - [9379] - Quote Supra Advyn wrote: @1/2 time, 22 seahawks / 0 Broncos Mollerz? Bojo's Opinion My Home Team Will Finally Win! (probably, no guarantees) Rifle Changes: DPS, range, and damage
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 2574	Posted - 2014.02.03 01:34:00 - [9380] - Quote Supra Advyn wrote: @1/2 time, 22 seahawks / 0 Broncos Mollerz? Just got an update after dinner. I didn't know that Manning played for the Seahawks Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.

Ivan Avogadro Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 690	Posted - 2014.02.03 01:34:00 - [9381] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Ivan Avogadro wrote: Nyra Volki wrote: Games all day! I love sports but watching them is boring. Put a hundred bucks on the game and see if your opinion changes Ahhhh... I'm wishing I only put a 100 on it at the moment. X( Update for those who aren't at parties and writing a paper? Seahawks are ruining the Broncos. First play of the game was a safety when the center snapped the ball past Peytons head. The start of the 3rd, and the hawks just ran a return touchdown. So 29/0 now. Peyton has thrown two picks already. And there have been a LOT of flags this game. I remember at one point the Bronco guard kicked a defender who got past him.
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 282	Posted - 2014.02.03 01:39:00 - [9382] - Quote Its easily been one of the most boring games of the year. Unless there is a miracle comeback. This scout thanks you CCP!!!
Nyra Volki KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 143	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:06:00 - [9383] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Ivan Avogadro wrote: Nyra Volki wrote: Games all day! I love sports but watching them is boring. Put a hundred bucks on the game and see if your opinion changes Ahhhh... I'm wishing I only put a 100 on it at the moment. X( Update for those who aren't at parties and writing a paper? Playing Dust just got Enhance Regulators an Recharges an i'm loving them. still above 5 million Silent you must be Or die you will From True scout a kind message
mollerz Minja Scouts 2242	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:17:00 - [9384] - Quote Supra Advyn wrote: @1/2 time, 22 seahawks / 0 Broncos Mollerz? It's still early!! Lolz You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
noob cavman Tickle My Null-Sac 525	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:21:00 - [9385] - Quote 4th year rooster teeth got it right XD I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy
mollerz Minja Scouts 2242	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:23:00 - [9386] - Quote mollerz wrote: Supra Advyn wrote: @1/2 time, 22 seahawks / 0 Broncos Mollerz? It's still early!! Lolz 100k on the way! Well when I get home (: You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 414	Posted - 2014.02.03 03:04:00 - [9387] - Quote Posted the beginners scouts guide from Nos Nothi over in the rookie training ground. Have made a few updates (to both versions), so please let me know if you can think of any improvements. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=139892&find=unread
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 282	Posted - 2014.02.03 03:08:00 - [9388] - Quote I think its fair to say the Broncos got protostomped. This scout thanks you CCP!!!
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. 2996	Posted - 2014.02.03 04:52:00 - [9389] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: I think its fair to say the Broncos got protostomped. Protostomped by a bunch of rookies They're tied for lowest average age to win a superbowl with the Miami Dolphins back in the 70's. Rifle Changes: DPS, range, and damage
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 880	Posted - 2014.02.03 05:37:00 - [9390] - Quote mollerz wrote: Well.. Let me tell you. I used to have to blow in my game cartridges to make my game work Pffft. When I wanted to play a game, I had to type it in myself, copying from a PRINTOUT. Oh how luxurious it was, when someone came up with the newfangled idea that you could store a program on a magnetic tape! (and btw, yes, this is a true story, not someone making up junk trying to sound old.) (gads, I am old...)



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