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Ghost Kaisar
Intrepidus XI
EoN.
152
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Posted - 2013.07.17 16:54:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:chode ibex wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:kinda sad that scout posed such little threat.
Really hoping for some scout love soon so things like this don't happen I'm just guessing that he just havent faced one of the good scouts out there. I'm not as good but I sure want to try my luck and use my knife on that guy  Truth be told I barely use my knives anymore :( they are just unreliable at the moment even more so my remote explosives/proxi mines I loved them when they worked but i can't rely on them to work,if I ran solo this wouldn't be a problem but I'm in a corp and I have to preform the best I can. 
Yeah, my corp is having me switch to Shotgun/SMG combo instead of Knive/SMG. And it's true, the shotgun is a more reliable CQC weapon against multiple opponents.
So, I'm grinding this week toward a K5 Specialist. Was told by a friend not to go proto as it wasn't worth the SP. Any thoughts? |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
355
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Posted - 2013.07.17 17:02:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:
So, I'm grinding this week toward a K5 Specialist. Was told by a friend not to go proto as it wasn't worth the SP. Any thoughts?
I alternate between Dren (Standard) and K5, primarily due to CPU/PG limitations. A scout can't fit a Proto SG while carrying decent gear.
Also, you'll observe more problems with hit detection as you skill into SG Operation. The bad mechanics hit you harder as your pellet spread tightens. Level 5 is akin to running a Breach at Level 1. In my experience, you can't hit anything that moves unless you get lucky or run right up against your target. I didn't have any issues with accuracy in Chromosome; I'm hoping an SG fix is in the cards for 1.3.
- Shotty |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
748
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Posted - 2013.07.17 17:03:00 -
[513] - Quote
Ghost Kaisar wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:chode ibex wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:kinda sad that scout posed such little threat.
Really hoping for some scout love soon so things like this don't happen I'm just guessing that he just havent faced one of the good scouts out there. I'm not as good but I sure want to try my luck and use my knife on that guy Truth be told I barely use my knives anymore :( they are just unreliable at the moment even more so my remote explosives/proxi mines I loved them when they worked but i can't rely on them to work,if I ran solo this wouldn't be a problem but I'm in a corp and I have to preform the best I can. Yeah, my corp is having me switch to Shotgun/SMG combo instead of Knive/SMG. And it's true, the shotgun is a more reliable CQC weapon against multiple opponents. So, I'm grinding this week toward a K5 Specialist. Was told by a friend not to go proto as it wasn't worth the SP. Any thoughts?
Used them before definitely good for a scout due to the lower requirements fitting wise while still doing some nasty damage.
If you can use it the breach is a fantastic weapon but either requires inhumane aiming ability or to be flanking.
Using mass drivers myself i find it a less situational weapon and I'm able to easily stand against any suit if I play/move correctly,great for flanking too.
take it from me though have a good back up because either you're using assault and will injure yourself in cqc or the 'normal' mass driver and find yourself in need of ammo frequently. |
chode ibex
Paperthinz
2
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Posted - 2013.07.17 17:04:00 -
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I used to go with just sg and smg; I was doing ok coz sometimes it just shoots blank, esp if you have breach sg, only have 2 chances >_< If i missed with one im killed most of the time anyways so I picked a higher dmg vs clip size. Then I switched to knife, had more fun with it.... I just noticed I have even less of chance with, but oh well that was back when I just have majority of my stuff as militia. knife for fun |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
355
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Posted - 2013.07.17 17:08:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:
If you can use it the breach is a fantastic weapon but either requires inhumane aiming ability or to be flanking.
IMHO, the Breach is currently trash. I used it often in Chromosome and came to find it challenging but consistent. Now it only amplifies Uprising's bad CQC mechanics. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
749
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Posted - 2013.07.17 17:13:00 -
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*Sigh* just another piece of equipment that's on the fritz:
Nova knives
Remote explosives
Shotgun
Proxi mines
Flux grenades
are the ones that I can pick out off the top of my head,anything i missed?lol
Edit:oh and scanners :D |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
260
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Posted - 2013.07.17 20:36:00 -
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Right now I seriously think that the smg is a scout's best friend. it doesn't let me down. I saw Axelmirader2 take out two opponents with 2 shells. Awesome. |
Ghost Kaisar
Intrepidus XI
EoN.
154
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Posted - 2013.07.18 00:12:00 -
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So. Apparently my corp is trying to get me into training with Annie Oakley. This should be fun. |
GRIM GEAR
The Enclave Syndicate
Dark Taboo
7
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Posted - 2013.07.18 01:00:00 -
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Woooooohoooooooooo! I finally broke into the five digits for my kill count in saying that my kdr is low; what's that saying is it quantity over quality or quality over quantity |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
261
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Posted - 2013.07.18 03:56:00 -
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knight solaire is a great scout, we had fun us too with no mics. he saved my behind, I saved his. It's funny as hell seeing him knife mofos left and right! He avenged my death.,he jumped over a wall to get to the outside. PLUS we were dueling with our knifes! it's great practice. |
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
359
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:09:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:knight solaire is a great scout, we had fun us too with no mics. he saved my behind, I saved his. It's funny as hell seeing him knife mofos left and right! He avenged my death.,he jumped over a wall to get to the outside. PLUS we were dueling with our knifes! it's great practice.
There are two "Knight Solaire"s in-game. One is spelled with a capital "i" vs "L". The "i" Solaire I believed to be a tanker; I've sent him an in-game mail to confirm. The other, spelled correctly, has virtually no in-game statistics. Thanks for the heads up, Niuvo.
- Shotty GoBang |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
359
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:12:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:So. Apparently my corp is trying to get me into training with Annie Oakley. This should be fun.
Thought Annie had retired. This is good news for Dust, and great news for you, Kaisar .
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
359
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Posted - 2013.07.18 16:12:00 -
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July 18th, 14:00 - Killboard Updated
(See Pages 1 & 21)
Killboard Accolades
- DottorBestemia has progressed to Tier IV, having collected over 10,000 kills.
- Sir Petersen has progressed to Tier III, having collected over 5,000 kills.
- Yun Hee Ryeon has progressed to Tier II, having collected over 2,500 kills.
Brothers Found
- Tier IV - negative49er, Knight SoIaire (with a capital "i")
- Tier II - chode ibex
Community Statistics
- The likelihood of encountering a Scout with 20k+ kills is under one quarter of 1%.
- Over 60% of Scouts have a KDR under 2.0. 82.03% under 3.0. 96.09% under 5.0.
- For every 100 mercs, around 3 will be Scouts.
Assumes an active Dust player base of 5,000.
On Uprising 1.2
It can be said with statistical certainty that Uprising 1.2 has negatively impacted the Scout Community. It stands to reason that as a merc gains experience, his/her KDR will improve with time. An opposing pattern has been observed for nearly 60% of Scouts since Uprising 1.2.
Yet "scouts are fine" posts/threads still pop up from time to time. Such statements defy observable metrics.
CCP is aware of our performance decline, as noted by Cmdr Wang on July 4th. CPM attributes our decline to in-game changes rather than an intentional nerf, to quote: "the performance of the game was so noticeably improved that its created a host of phantom buffs / nerfs from everything to movement speed to splash damage that has everyone thinking CCP messed with mechanics they didn't even touch code-wise."
Uprising 1.3 (Late July)
The Devs have recently announced a Logi rebalance for 1.3:
http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/logistics-dropsuit-changes-in-uprising-1.3
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=95412
We gathered from CPM_Hans' report that a single suit was to be rebalanced. I had hoped it would be ours, but we can now safely infer that Scouts are not scheduled to receive a direct buff (Uprising 1.3 is code locked). I remain with high hopes that we'll be buffed indirectly via changes to in-game mechanics. Fingers crossed.
Happy Hunting,
Shotty GoBang |
chode ibex
Paperthinz
4
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Posted - 2013.07.18 16:16:00 -
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So Logi stuff updates to the most part of 1.3, I sure hope they didnt mentioned scouts because it might be a surprise addition. There are already some people QQing about how this and that to their roles on their drop suits. Then again thats prob because they didnt stick to their role as they should have. Glad I have this one at least majority of the scouts stayed on their unique skills to rely on. |
Ghost Kaisar
Intrepidus XI
EoN.
154
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Posted - 2013.07.18 16:19:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:So. Apparently my corp is trying to get me into training with Annie Oakley. This should be fun. Thought Annie had retired. This is good news for Dust, and great news for you, Kaisar .
I saw him in the Livestream. He also was in alliance chat today. Maybe he is back O_o |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
759
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Posted - 2013.07.18 16:20:00 -
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Can't suck if you're a scout requires to much skill just to stay alive in large engagements lol |
pseudosnipre
DUST University
Ivy League
78
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Posted - 2013.07.18 17:56:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Can't suck if you're a scout requires to much skill just to stay alive in large engagements lol
Noticing the plummeting kdr of scouts involved in pc... |
Ghost Kaisar
Intrepidus XI
EoN.
154
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Posted - 2013.07.18 17:58:00 -
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pseudosnipre wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Can't suck if you're a scout requires to much skill just to stay alive in large engagements lol Noticing the plummeting kdr of scouts involved in pc...
Ugh, Pulling positive is damn near impossible in PC. Unless you just wreck em that round. |
pseudosnipre
DUST University
Ivy League
78
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Posted - 2013.07.18 18:16:00 -
[529] - Quote
Ghost Kaisar wrote:pseudosnipre wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Can't suck if you're a scout requires to much skill just to stay alive in large engagements lol Noticing the plummeting kdr of scouts involved in pc... Ugh, Pulling positive is damn near impossible in PC. Unless you just wreck em that round.
PC numbers are what i hope CCP looks at.
Our small scout community is not attractive to new players meaning those that stay learn to excel...or are masochists...or both. Id be disappointed if the fate of the class as a whole was based on the hard-learned tactics andor hard-earned success of those who learn to exceed at the role and perform well in pub matches. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
762
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Posted - 2013.07.18 19:08:00 -
[530] - Quote
My K/D has actually not changed that much now that I think about it, I play in squadrons mozt of the time though so that may have a hand in it
Edit:oh and my mass driver (and remote explosives when they decide to work) |
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
361
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Posted - 2013.07.18 19:30:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:My K/D has actually not changed that much now that I think about it, I play in squadrons mozt of the time though so that may have a hand in it
Edit:oh and my mass driver (and remote explosives when they decide to work)
Sinboto, your KD has improved by 0.01 since July 1st. Given your improving skills, total kills, number of daily kills, your KDR should have improved at a daily rate of 0.01 to 0.02. In essence, you've been robbed every day since Uprising 1.2, though you have been robbed at a lesser degree than your brothers who's KDR declined in this period.
You have cause to be angry, Sinboto.
- Shotty GoBang |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1337
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Posted - 2013.07.18 19:35:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Niuvo wrote:knight solaire is a great scout, we had fun us too with no mics. he saved my behind, I saved his. It's funny as hell seeing him knife mofos left and right! He avenged my death.,he jumped over a wall to get to the outside. PLUS we were dueling with our knifes! it's great practice. There are two "Knight Solaire"s in-game. One is spelled with a capital "i" vs "L". The "i" Solaire I believed to be a tanker; I've sent him an in-game mail to confirm. The other, spelled correctly, has virtually no in-game statistics. Thanks for the heads up, Niuvo. - Shotty GoBang Edit: Knight SoIaire (with an "i") responded; he's a scout that occasionally runs a tank.
Yup.
I regretted putting an upper case 'i' there. But now I've got a name change, so hopefully it saves the confusion (And another big + is that the people who hate me, wont recognize me) |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
259
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Posted - 2013.07.18 19:58:00 -
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Had the best squad ever a moment ago, thank you McCoy and Scotty, live long and prosper. \V/ |
Ro Dusakk
All But Ambition
12
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Posted - 2013.07.18 21:51:00 -
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Hi! This thread is so vivid and sprouting/sproutful/sproutingly... eh
Anyway, I can't keep up. But I have a request. How about making a list of former scouts? With date of departure (roughly) and all their stats they had.
Mr. Shotty should have a medal. Your work and effort is absolutely outstanding. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
767
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:11:00 -
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As I sit here with my samsung plugged in drinking a heineken and wondering why the hell my boss called me in today if there was nothing going on, I realized that I'd not heard anything on the cloak in some time as I would very much like to know when this important piece of a scout's equipment is being released, how it works, and other such things I ask you for information.
I shall then make a tread on the subject asking the devs for further information should I need to.
Then get another heineken......
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
361
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:58:00 -
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Ro Dusakk wrote:How about making a list of former scouts? With date of departure (roughly) and all their stats they had.
Thanks, Ro. The section "Brothers Lost" was moved to our secondary Killboard on Page 21. Collecting their stats and estimated departure dates would pose quite the chore. Many left the Scoutly ranks prior to the date I started keeping records.
- Shotty
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BARDAS
DUST University
Ivy League
189
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:04:00 -
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Scout fo' life! Only time I ever plan on changing my suit is perhaps when an Amarr Scout is revealed so I can play a suit that fits my characters race. Did you guys notice in the latest dev blog update the picture had a Minmatar Heavy in it? Keeping my fingers crossed that if they are adding suits in 1.3 that the Scouts get some tender loving dev care. Perhaps an Amarr Scout suit or some buffs to the current suits? I can keep dreaming right?  |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
769
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:48:00 -
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So......no word on cloaks |
The Cobra Commander
Bojo's School of the Trades
79
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Posted - 2013.07.19 02:15:00 -
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Shotty please remove me from the scout registry. I have decided to move on with this game. |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
266
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Posted - 2013.07.19 04:36:00 -
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^damn man.hang in there cobra, dont throw the suit yet.
Did you guys know that you can deny a revive by bunning or stabbing the target on the ground? They turn to a dull color when you knife/shoot them.
I wish we can climb on stuff and jump on objects to get the leaping advantage. More parkour, more parkour! There's something awesome about knowing your surroundings and making quick get-aways. |
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