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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.10.17 19:25:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote: Thing is though man, we've reached the absolute limit when it comes to optimization. Like, there's nothing more we can do. Graphically, mechanically, we've optimized everything possible.
Here are some things they haven't yet tried:
* Trim maps beyond the redline; why render miles and miles of unused terrain? * Convert socketed maps to fixed maps. * Reduce map sizes and/or active regions (like this. - Stefan Stahl) * Powercores. * Downgrade graphics and effects. * Decrease player counts per match. * Remove "Select Battle Server" toggle. * Mandate Push-to-Talk when in battle. * Assign a subscription limit to player channels. * Consolidate queues
Some of these things would kinda blow, but they wouldn't blow as hard as the lag and framerate drops. What am I missing, gents? Any other good ideas out there on how to save memory / reduce lag?
Dropsuit Usage Rates
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.10.17 19:30:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote: Thing is though man, we've reached the absolute limit when it comes to optimization. Like, there's nothing more we can do. Graphically, mechanically, we've optimized everything possible.
Here are some things they haven't yet tried: * Trim the maps beyond the redline; there's no point rendering miles and miles of unused terrain. * Convert socketed maps to fixed maps; if it means less lag, why the heck not? * Reduce map sizes and/or active regions (like this. - Stefan Stahl) * Powercores. * Downgrade graphics and effects. * Decrease player counts per match. * Remove "Select Battle Server" toggle. * Mandate Push-to-Talk when in battle. * Assign a subscription limit to player channels. Some of these things would kinda blow, but they wouldn't blow as hard as the lag and framerate drops. What am I missing, gents? Any other good ideas out there on how to save memory / reduce lag? I wonder, could the actual code for everything be long-winded and obsolete? I imagine that since CCP isn't used to working with consoles, they perhaps didn't write the code in the most efficient way? Maybe CCP could hire someone who's better used to working with consoles to shorten and optimise the code?
Is that how coding works?
Creator of the Nova Knifers United channel
Dreis' Minja Blog
CEO of Abstract Requiem
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.17 19:31:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote: Thing is though man, we've reached the absolute limit when it comes to optimization. Like, there's nothing more we can do. Graphically, mechanically, we've optimized everything possible.
Here are some things they haven't yet tried: * Trim the maps beyond the redline; there's no point rendering miles and miles of unused terrain. * Convert socketed maps to fixed maps; if it means less lag, why the heck not? * Reduce map sizes and/or active regions (like this. - Stefan Stahl) * Powercores. * Downgrade graphics and effects. * Decrease player counts per match. * Remove "Select Battle Server" toggle. * Mandate Push-to-Talk when in battle. * Assign a subscription limit to player channels. * Consolidate queues Some of these things would kinda blow, but they wouldn't blow as hard as the lag and framerate drops. What am I missing, gents? Any other good ideas out there on how to save memory / reduce lag? Pour ten gallons of milk on your PS3 then set it on fire.
Director of Pure Evil.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.10.17 19:31:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Hylian11 wrote:Ok, so, should i stop using tripple complex damage mods on my gal assault? XD Dunno about that, but you'd be better off running two complex damage amps and one Krins. I'd run 2 damage and 1 shield. At least, that's what I run on my Amarr Assault (which I don't use anymore).
Creator of the Nova Knifers United channel
Dreis' Minja Blog
CEO of Abstract Requiem
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
13
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Posted - 2015.10.17 19:39:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote: Thing is though man, we've reached the absolute limit when it comes to optimization. Like, there's nothing more we can do. Graphically, mechanically, we've optimized everything possible.
Here are some things they haven't yet tried: * Trim maps beyond the redline; why render miles and miles of unused terrain? * Convert socketed maps to fixed maps. * Reduce map sizes and/or active regions (like this. - Stefan Stahl) * Powercores. * Downgrade graphics and effects. * Decrease player counts per match. * Remove "Select Battle Server" toggle. * Mandate Push-to-Talk when in battle. * Assign a subscription limit to player channels. * Consolidate queues Some of these things would kinda blow, but they wouldn't blow as hard as the lag and framerate drops. What am I missing, gents? Any other good ideas out there on how to save memory / reduce lag? Convert us to stick figures.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
5
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Posted - 2015.10.17 19:53:00 -
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Could always add more skins for the game to store.
NoobCavman Has DS3 Sized Hands
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
3
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Posted - 2015.10.17 19:55:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Could always add more skins for the game to store. I personally am a big fan of more skins. It takes the immersion that much deeper and allows you to customize your merc to your choosing.
Director of Pure Evil.
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
5
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Posted - 2015.10.17 19:56:00 -
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Ohh and if they learn how to cut the grass on some of these maps I'm sure it would play better.
NoobCavman Has DS3 Sized Hands
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
3
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Posted - 2015.10.17 19:58:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Ohh and if they learn how to cut the grass on some of these maps I'm sure it would play better. Or maybe Dust 514 could be in black and white
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Spademan
8
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Posted - 2015.10.17 19:58:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Ohh and if they learn how to cut the grass on some of these maps I'm sure it would play better. Or maybe Dust 514 could be in black and white Make it sepia tone and you have a deal.
What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.10.17 20:01:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Could always add more skins for the game to store. I personally am a big fan of more skins. It takes the immersion that much deeper and allows you to customize your merc to your choosing. "Customizing your merc" is all you'll be able to do if gameplay doesn't improve.
Dropsuit Usage Rates
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
5
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Posted - 2015.10.17 20:01:00 -
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So honest question, dealing with the chat channels. Would a chat channel wipe do anything. No clue how many chat channels I have made since I started playing dust. I do know it will tell me I can't create anymore lol. Would starting a new with the chat channels do anything?
NoobCavman Has DS3 Sized Hands
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
3
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Posted - 2015.10.17 20:03:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Could always add more skins for the game to store. I personally am a big fan of more skins. It takes the immersion that much deeper and allows you to customize your merc to your choosing. "Customizing your merc" is all you'll be able to do if gameplay doesn't improve. What do you mean improve? I'm getting epic matches, no lag, all while running solo. It couldn't get much better than this.
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
5
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Posted - 2015.10.17 20:06:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Ohh and if they learn how to cut the grass on some of these maps I'm sure it would play better. Or maybe Dust 514 could be in black and white
If it gave performance improvements lol people would do it 480p XD
NoobCavman Has DS3 Sized Hands
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.10.17 20:09:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Could always add more skins for the game to store. I personally am a big fan of more skins. It takes the immersion that much deeper and allows you to customize your merc to your choosing. "Customizing your merc" is all you'll be able to do if gameplay doesn't improve. What do you mean improve? I'm getting epic matches, no lag, all while running solo. It couldn't get much better than this.
We can't all play in the low Mu queue.
It's Saturday. I just sat "searching for battle" for a full 10 minutes. All modes checked, excluding Domination. The match I get -- after waiting for 10 minutes -- is me + some randoms vs a stompsquad. The lag was real. I should've backed out, but 10 minutes is a long wait for nothing. So I spent about a million ISK entertaining the stompsquad and got paid ~200k EOM for my efforts. Apparently, we had a rep logi or two somewhere on the field.
There's so much room for improvement. Fix the lag. Fix the stomps. Fix pay. Fix class imbalance. Add a solo queue so that people can find a decent quality match when PCU is low and/or match quality elsewhere is suspect.
I've got a few free to hours to play DUST right now; instead, I'll be doing other things. First on the list is fussing on the DUST Forums. Check! Now off to find something else to play.
Dropsuit Usage Rates
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
5
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Posted - 2015.10.17 20:25:00 -
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$40 dollars at mexican place. XD money oh so well spent
NoobCavman Has DS3 Sized Hands
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.17 20:27:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Could always add more skins for the game to store. I personally am a big fan of more skins. It takes the immersion that much deeper and allows you to customize your merc to your choosing. "Customizing your merc" is all you'll be able to do if gameplay doesn't improve. What do you mean improve? I'm getting epic matches, no lag, all while running solo. It couldn't get much better than this. We can't all play in the low Mu queue. It's Saturday. I just sat "searching for battle" for a full 10 minutes. All modes checked, excluding Domination. The match I get -- after waiting for 10 minutes -- is me + some randoms vs a stompsquad. The lag was real. I should've backed out, but 10 minutes is a long wait for nothing. So I spent about a million ISK entertaining the stompsquad and got paid ~200k EOM for my efforts. Apparently, we had a rep logi or two somewhere on the field. There's so much room for improvement. Fix the lag. Fix the stomps. Fix pay. Fix class imbalance. Add a solo queue so that people can find a decent quality match when PCU is low and/or match quality elsewhere is suspect. The wife's away and I've got a few free hours to play. Really wanted to play DUST; instead, I'll be doing other things. First on the list is fussing on the DUST Forums. Check! Now off to find something else to play. I'm sure the full squads of Cap Aq and TR would disagree with you.
As for wait times, I have all 4 modes checked off and server set to automatic. It usually takes me anywhere from 30 seconds to a minute to find a match, and the matches are usually skirm or ambush, I rarely get domination nowadays and acquisition is even rarer.
I also never lag. The battles I get in are very even for the most part. I usually get paid around 400k a match and that is in my minmatar scout.
Director of Pure Evil.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.10.17 20:30:00 -
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I find that I get matches quicker when I'm solo and unsquadded, as opposed being in a 1-man squad. Matches are usually better quality too.
Creator of the Nova Knifers United channel
Dreis' Minja Blog
CEO of Abstract Requiem
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Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.10.17 20:34:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Off Topic: Got to play a few matches again last night. It was fun! No noticeable lag.
Ran mostly biotic CalAssault + Shotgun. Dropped the hive and added an active scanner. I'm getting scanned often, but getting scanned is not a death sentence for Assault suits. With only two shield extenders, I'm pushing nearly 500 shield HP; compared to a Scout, I have tons of time to react when shot. I'm running a couple myofibs, so by "react" I mean hop away and recover ... or hop toward the merc who's pewpewing at me and smash his face. Here's my fit, which I've tweaked slightly since last sharing:
Assault ck.0 HS: Cmp Extenders (x2), Cmp Recharger, Cmp Myofibs (x2) LS: Cmp KinCats (x2), Cmp Regulator PW: Adv Shotgun SW: Adv MagSec EQ: Creodron Proximity Scanner GR: Flux for Skirm, Locus for other modes
This is a different approach to shotgunning from what I've grown accustomed. Attacks from behind seldom favor the target. Frontal attacks are often an option. HMG Heavies are far less threatening. Risks are easier to manage and mistakes are far more forgiving. There are a few drawbacks, but overall it seems to be alot less difficult than running Shotgun Scout. So far, at least.
Note: I've picked up a handful of shotgun scouts with my free-pass unenhanced inner scan ring. I'd estimate these guys have a 50/50 chance of dying. They have to hit me twice; I usually only have to hit them once. If I'm turning before they fire, they've got pretty low odds of success. Chasing an Assault Shotgunner is bad idea, as you're blipping on his TacNet for a good bit of time while closing the gap between 6m and 4m. Found myself in a lower MU skirmish the other day. Got a 26 kill streak in a dragonfly scout with a basic shotgun, defending a CQC objective. Reminded me of the power of passive scans + low profile + shotgun. Particularly against less experienced players.
It occurred to me, as I wasn't making use of my cloak, that I would have been better off in an assault suit. Which then made me think of a possibly great low sp fit:
standard assault militia precision enhancer militia profile dampener Kincats (militia) Shields Armour militia shotgun sidearm
The two EWAR mods effectively put the suit's EWAR equal to my scout, in the absence of active scans. I was probably scanning some at 30m, which this suit won't. But 10m is enough to shotgun someone as they round a corner.
So long as the new(ish) player was able to make use of the radar and chevrons, and stayed away from open spaces, this could be devastating in a low MU match. Particularly skirmish. It's a shame new players can't access an assault suit. Medium frames lack hp, but still could be ok, though not much better than an hp tanked light frame.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
17
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Posted - 2015.10.17 20:36:00 -
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Installing ICO and Shadow of the Colossus Collection.
(Haven't ever played ICO ... heard about it from you guys)
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Hylian11
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
149
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Posted - 2015.10.17 20:52:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Installing ICO and Shadow of the Colossus Collection. (Haven't ever played ICO ... heard about it from you guys)
Nope! Too PO'd for Puzzles right now. Want to shoot someone in the face. Haven't played CoD since my first day of Dust ... that was ... 936 days ago! :: installing Black Ops II :: Already salivating just thinking about that KSG.
No shotty! Go back to the beautiful game! Don't sink into the pits of Call of Dooky! |
noob cavman
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.17 21:06:00 -
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Hylian11 wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Installing ICO and Shadow of the Colossus Collection. (Haven't ever played ICO ... heard about it from you guys)
Nope! Too PO'd for Puzzles right now. Want to shoot someone in the face. Haven't played CoD since my first day of Dust ... that was ... 936 days ago! :: installing Black Ops II :: Already salivating just thinking about that KSG. No shotty! Go back to the beautiful game! Don't sink into the pits of Call of Dooky!
Beautiful? I wouldn't call a game with frequent framerate issues, black screen bug's, terrible lag spikes, unjustifiable skin prices, bipolar match making system, frequent texture popping, oversized maps, narrow fov, generic gamemodes, severe lack of content, competitive game mode that barely works, tiny player base, on a old decrepit pos system.
I would call this mediocrity the game at this point.
Chat systems alright tho.
The most abusive northerner.
currently reading clockwork vampires by andy remic. A terra bad/awesome author
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
3
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Posted - 2015.10.17 21:07:00 -
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Okay wtf, I was playing tf2 as a spy and got 30 backstabs and 1st place. Then I get voted off for scamming?
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noob cavman
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.17 21:09:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Okay wtf, I was playing tf2 as a spy and got 30 backstabs and 1st place. Then I get voted off for scamming? Pfft learn scout jumps and watch how many server's you get banned from XD
The most abusive northerner.
currently reading clockwork vampires by andy remic. A terra bad/awesome author
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Hylian11
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
149
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Posted - 2015.10.17 21:10:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:Hylian11 wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Installing ICO and Shadow of the Colossus Collection. (Haven't ever played ICO ... heard about it from you guys)
Nope! Too PO'd for Puzzles right now. Want to shoot someone in the face. Haven't played CoD since my first day of Dust ... that was ... 936 days ago! :: installing Black Ops II :: Already salivating just thinking about that KSG. No shotty! Go back to the beautiful game! Don't sink into the pits of Call of Dooky! Beautiful? I wouldn't call a game with frequent framerate issues, black screen bug's, terrible lag spikes, unjustifiable skin prices, bipolar match making system, frequent texture popping, oversized maps, narrow fov, generic gamemodes, severe lack of content, competitive game mode that barely works, tiny player base, on a old decrepit pos system. I would call this mediocrity the game at this point. Chat systems alright tho.
ICO and Shadow of the Colossus, not DUST, DUST is not beautiful anymore. ICO and Shadow are amazing games, absolutely amazing games, that will make you cry. |
Hylian11
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
149
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Posted - 2015.10.17 21:13:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Okay wtf, I was playing tf2 as a spy and got 30 backstabs and 1st place. Then I get voted off for scamming? Pfft learn scout jumps and watch how many server's you get banned from XD
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Spademan
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Posted - 2015.10.17 21:33:00 -
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Guys I need something to scrub that atrocious rugby match from my memory and I need it now.
What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
L0RDS 0F LEGI0N Damage LLC
3
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Posted - 2015.10.17 21:38:00 -
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I play scout with my mosepad & keybored cause still haven't bought a USB mouse, i get called a word that rhymes with maggot (HA!) in chats from the few people i DO kill. But i mostly play engi cause sentries + good positioning + guarding intel = easier for my lack of mouse, and contributing to the blue team.
Blue is my favorite color. Tried spy got C&D, thought scouts more fun.
/Z)/V//V- /V)_/` /V)´/``/-//
Learning 'Never stop moving ever' from lots of people
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
5
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Posted - 2015.10.17 21:39:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Installing ICO and Shadow of the Colossus Collection. (Haven't ever played ICO ... heard about it from you guys)
Nope! Too PO'd for Puzzles right now. Want to shoot someone in the face. Haven't played CoD since my first day of Dust ... that was ... 936 days ago! :: installing Black Ops II :: Already salivating just thinking about that KSG.
Do like many others, grab a ps4 for christmas. XD
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
L0RDS 0F LEGI0N Damage LLC
3
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Posted - 2015.10.17 21:39:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Guys I need something to scrub that atrocious rugby match from my memory and I need it now.
Try playing TF2 & Warframe on KB/MPAD. Scrubbed out yet?
/Z)/V//V- /V)_/` /V)´/``/-//
Learning 'Never stop moving ever' from lots of people
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