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Adipem Nothi wrote:

Pseudogenesis wrote:

Can somebody explain dampening a minmatar scout to me like I'm 5? Do I really need 2 complex damps? Is there any use to fitting 1 STD, or 1 ENH, or 2 ENH, or 1 CMP?

Somebody should make a guide on this and update it after every major ewar change ( '-')

MN Scout Scan Profile Progression
32 dB - max skilled, no damps
27 dB - max skilled, basic damp <----- Beats 28dB Scans
23 dB - max skilled, basic damp + basic damp
22 dB - max skilled, basic damp + enhanced damp
21 dB - max skilled, basic damp + complex damp
21 dB - max skilled, enhanced damp + enhanced damp
20 dB - max skilled, enhanced damp + complex damp <----- Beats 21dB Scans
18 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp
17 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + basic damp
16 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + enhanced damp
16 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + complex damp
15 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + complex damp + advanced cloak:on
14 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + complex damp + prototype cloak:on <---- Beats 15 dB Scans

No need to memorize progressions. Your suit's Scan Profile was recently added to in-game fitting summary; it'll update dynamically as you change your loadout. If you're away from the game, Protofits is another option (their EWAR calculations are up-to-date).

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Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7640	Posted - 2015.03.14 22:17:00 - [31231] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: AScR is FotM? I certainly thought it would be, but I'm not so sure now. Gave it a whirl after the 15% buff; it's pretty good, but it isn't or anything. The ScR is probably still the better choice, especially on an AM Assault. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 2169	Posted - 2015.03.14 23:09:00 - [31232] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Can somebody explain dampening a minmatar scout to me like I'm 5? Do I really need 2 complex damps? Is there any use to fitting 1 STD, or 1 ENH, or 2 ENH, or 1 CMP? Somebody should make a guide on this and update it after every major ewar change ( '-') MN Scout Scan Profile Progression 32 dB - max skilled, no damps 27 dB - max skilled, basic damp <----- Beats 28dB Scans 23 dB - max skilled, basic damp + basic damp 22 dB - max skilled, basic damp + enhanced damp 21 dB - max skilled, basic damp + complex damp 21 dB - max skilled, enhanced damp + enhanced damp 20 dB - max skilled, enhanced damp + complex damp <----- Beats 21dB Scans 18 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp 17 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + basic damp 16 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + enhanced damp 16 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + complex damp 15 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + complex damp + advanced cloak:on 14 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + complex damp + prototype cloak:on <---- Beats 15 dB Scans No need to memorize progressions. Your suit's Scan Profile was recently added to in-game fitting summary; it'll update dynamically as you change your loadout. If you're away from the game, Protofits is another option (their EWAR calculations are up-to-date). Thanks for this, but my problem isn't really knowing how much I'm damped, it's knowing how much I SHOULD be damped. I don't know what the meta is in terms of assaults or scouts running prec enhancers, don't know if I avoid naked assault or scout passives without damps, or without damps + STD cloaked, et cetera. There's too many moving parts for me I really dislike the ewar system Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7641	Posted - 2015.03.14 23:54:00 - [31233] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Thanks for this, but my problem isn't really knowing how much I'm damped, it's knowing how much I SHOULD be damped. I don't know what the meta is in terms of assaults or scouts running prec enhancers, don't know if I avoid naked assault or scout passives without damps, or without damps + STD cloaked, et cetera. There's too many moving parts for me I really dislike the ewar system 28dB active scans are very common; 21dB Active Scans are the new competitive baseline. You can't beat 15dB scans without cutting off a leg and an arm, so if they're spamming Focused Scans, switch out to GalScout or Assault or leave battle. If you're running SG or NKs, you'll also want to take into account 20dB Inner Rings. These vary in range from 5m to 10m. If your mark jumps away or insta-spins, it's typically because he's picked you up on his passives. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 22742	Posted - 2015.03.15 00:27:00 - [31234] - Quote I never seem to encounter focused scanners, even in PC. Are they really that common? Gallente Guide
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7643	Posted - 2015.03.15 01:02:00 - [31235] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I never seem to encounter focused scanners, even in PC. Are they really that common? Assuming (please correct me if I'm wrong) that you aren't trying to beat scans, how would you know if you have or haven't encountered focused scans? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
FLAYLOCK Steve Kinsho Swords Caldari State 485	Posted - 2015.03.15 01:05:00 - [31236] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: is that Corp active? Nos Nothi? Ai it is. Adipem Nothi wrote: We are presently Upstairs in the Barbershop, home of the Closest Shave in New Eden. The links in question point Downstairs to the Nos Nothi corp forums. Like all other good ideas in this thread, Downstairs was originally conceived by a European. The area came into existence prior to Uprising 1.8 to serve as an information archive / exchange accessible by "The Original Bastards" who had participated in the now defunct Scout Registry project. For reasons which remain unclear, a single exception was made for Arkena Wyrnspire -- the very same FoTM-chasing AR-514 Supremacist and Team Gallente All-Star you see here today. Downstairs was recently repurposed to become a Commons for Nos Nothi Actives and the Original Bastards. To get in on the fun, you'll need to be recruited. If your merc's name is on Page 1 or you're a former member of R0NIN or Legio, you are automatically approved. Otherwise, just hang around the shop and be awesome. All you need is one Bastard to vouch for you. Do you think I can join? If not it's okay
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7643	Posted - 2015.03.15 01:08:00 - [31237] - Quote FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Do you think I can join? If not it's okay Can't hurt to try! Send in an app. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 2169	Posted - 2015.03.15 01:12:00 - [31238] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: 21dB Active Scans are the new competitive standard. Your MN Scout can't beat 15dB scans without cutting off a leg and an arm, so if you pinged by a Focused Scanner, leave the area. If you're pinged frequently no matter where you go, they're running more than one GalLogi and/or they're KB/M spin-scanning; so switch out for 3x damped GalScout, run Assault instead, or leave battle. If you're running SG or NKs, you'll also want to take into account 20dB inner rings. These vary in range from 5m to 10m. If your mark jumps away or insta-spins when you're closing in, it's typically because he's picked you up on his passives. If an Assault or Logi fits a precision enhancer, your MN Scout can't beat his inner ring. Alright thanks, this definitely helps. One last question if you don't mind: assuming max ewar skills on both parties, and no ewar modules on either, who will pick me up with medium or long range passives, and would they still pick me up if I had a STD cloak active? Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
FLAYLOCK Steve Kinsho Swords Caldari State 485	Posted - 2015.03.15 01:18:00 - [31239] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Do you think I can join? If not it's okay Can't hurt to try! Send in an app. The only Corp I've been in was HellStorm, then I left the game for a almost a year . So I'm not sure what to write down in the app
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 8507	Posted - 2015.03.15 01:55:00 - [31240] - Quote FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Do you think I can join? If not it's okay Can't hurt to try! Send in an app. The only Corp I've been in was HellStorm, then I left the game for a almost a year . So I'm not sure what to write down in the app Nos Nothi is the only corp some of us have been in. You don't really need to sell yourself. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.

One Eyed King Nos Nothi 8507	Posted - 2015.03.15 01:58:00 - [31241] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: What came first, Adipem or Nos Nothi? Corp came first. This guy's named after the corp. So you're an alt? Adipem is Shotty GoBang. After the Scout Registry existed for many months without any Devs really actively listening to our input, he committed forum sepuku and has been on alts ever since. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
FLAYLOCK Steve Kinsho Swords Caldari State 485	Posted - 2015.03.15 02:17:00 - [31242] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Do you think I can join? If not it's okay Can't hurt to try! Send in an app. You're shotty go bang? Dude now I must really join your corp lol I can learn so much!
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 2319	Posted - 2015.03.15 03:35:00 - [31243] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Do you think I can join? If not it's okay Can't hurt to try! Send in an app. The only Corp I've been in was HellStorm, then I left the game for a almost a year . So I'm not sure what to write down in the app Nos Nothi is the only corp some of us have been in. You don't really need to sell yourself. first bid : 100 isk No Safety Net. TLDR : XD
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7645	Posted - 2015.03.15 03:51:00 - [31244] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: 21dB Active Scans are the new competitive standard. Your MN Scout can't beat 15dB scans without cutting off a leg and an arm, so if you pinged by a Focused Scanner, leave the area. If you're pinged frequently no matter where you go, they're running more than one GalLogi and/or they're KB/M spin-scanning; so switch out for 3x damped GalScout, run Assault instead, or leave battle. If you're running SG or NKs, you'll also want to take into account 20dB inner rings. These vary in range from 5m to 10m. If your mark jumps away or insta-spins when you're closing in, it's typically because he's picked you up on his passives. If an Assault or Logi fits a precision enhancer, your MN Scout can't beat his inner ring. Alright thanks, this definitely helps. One last question if you don't mind: assuming max ewar skills on both parties, and no ewar modules on either, who will pick me up with medium or long range passives, and would they still pick me up if I had a STD cloak active? Assuming no EWAR mods: Detection - Middle Rings (0-15m) AM Scout - 15m GA Scout - 15m Detection - Inner Rings (0-9m) CA Scout - 9m MN Scout - 6m Logi - 8m Assault - 6m Commando - 6m Sentinel - 5m PS: There's an EWAR table on Page 1. Click "1.0 by Unit" sheet for more details. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
FLAYLOCK Steve Kinsho Swords Caldari State 487	Posted - 2015.03.15 03:54:00 - [31245] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: One Eyed King wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Do you think I can join? If not it's okay Can't hurt to try! Send in an app. The only Corp I've been in was HellStorm, then I left the game for a almost a year . So I'm not sure what to write down in the app Nos Nothi is the only corp some of us have been in. You don't really need to sell yourself. first bid : 100 isk Lol. Jolly, what the main suit you run? Like what's the main setup.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7645	Posted - 2015.03.15 04:13:00 - [31246] - Quote FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: You're shotty go bang? Dude now I must really join your corp lol I can learn so much! You'll learn more hanging around the Barbershop than you ever could from me in game. I'm just a numbers guy; there are way better scouts and shooters here than me. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 2169	Posted - 2015.03.15 05:10:00 - [31247] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: 21dB Active Scans are the new competitive standard. Your MN Scout can't beat 15dB scans without cutting off a leg and an arm, so if you pinged by a Focused Scanner, leave the area. If you're pinged frequently no matter where you go, they're running more than one GalLogi and/or they're KB/M spin-scanning; so switch out for 3x damped GalScout, run Assault instead, or leave battle. If you're running SG or NKs, you'll also want to take into account 20dB inner rings. These vary in range from 5m to 10m. If your mark jumps away or insta-spins when you're closing in, it's typically because he's picked you up on his passives. If an Assault or Logi fits a precision enhancer, your MN Scout can't beat his inner ring. Alright thanks, this definitely helps. One last question if you don't mind: assuming max ewar skills on both parties, and no ewar modules on either, who will pick me up with medium or long range passives, and would they still pick me up if I had a STD cloak active? Assuming no EWAR mods: Detection - Middle Rings (0-15m) AM Scout - 15m GA Scout - 15m Detection - Inner Rings (0-9m) CA Scout - 9m MN Scout - 6m Logi - 8m Assault - 6m Commando - 6m Sentinel - 5m PS: There's an EWAR table on Page 1. Click "1.0 by Unit" sheet for more details. Cool. And yeah I already looked it over but spreadsheets are like a foreign language to me. Big walls of numbers give me flashbacks to my high school calculus days Gùæ.Gùæ Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
FLAYLOCK Steve Kinsho Swords Caldari State 487	Posted - 2015.03.15 05:11:00 - [31248] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: You're shotty go bang? Dude now I must really join your corp lol I can learn so much! You'll learn more hanging around the Barbershop than you ever could from me in game. I'm just a numbers guy; there are way better scouts and shooters here than me. Might be true, but I kinda miss squading up with friends. My last and only Corp was hellstorm. I used to be very good, pwning proto geared people with just dren suits and adv weapons. I left dust 514 for almost a year and came back like 2 months ago probably. Just want to join a corp and have fun xD.
First Prophet Nos Nothi 2568	Posted - 2015.03.15 05:16:00 - [31249] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: first bid : 100 isk 101 isk. People find this this review helpful!
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7646	Posted - 2015.03.15 05:59:00 - [31250] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I never seem to encounter focused scanners, even in PC. Are they really that common? Assuming (and correct me if I'm wrong) that you aren't trying to beat scans, how would you know if you have or haven't encountered focused scans? Oops! I didn't actually answer your question. Can't speak for PC, but I do get scanned on occasion in pubs while running a 2x damped GalScout. Can't put a number on it, but I wouldn't call them rare. Are you able to look at item sales histories from Eve? I'd expect their usage rates to be in decline, in direct relation to declining Scout usage rates. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley

Dreis Shadowweaver T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 2198	Posted - 2015.03.15 06:14:00 - [31251] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: How's that FotM going for you Dreis? Not seen you yet... FoTM!? I thought that Dreis was a knifer. What's he running? I'm baiting him. he was asking questions about what to put on an amarr assault just before echo launched. i implied he was going after the next FotM in the shape of the ascr or whatever it is got the 15% boost. i am hunting him...lol I'm not running Amarr Assault anymore; it doesn't have enough highs for frog mods Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 Dreis(Ishukone Nova Knives)CCPArchduke
Dreis Shadowweaver T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 2198	Posted - 2015.03.15 06:20:00 - [31252] - Quote These days, I'm running Assault 90% of the time, and Scout 10%. I haven't played a Skirm in weeks... It's really easy to 'dominate' in Dom: I've got a weekly w/l over 22.00... It's so shiny; I'm afraid of damaging it by running Skirm. How can I get back to my roots? I wanna be 'Dreis the knifer', not 'Dreis the tryhard'... Quick, before the tryhard in me makes me change my mind!!! AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!! Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 Dreis(Ishukone Nova Knives)CCPArchduke
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 2170	Posted - 2015.03.15 06:25:00 - [31253] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: These days, I'm running Assault 90% of the time, and Scout 10%. I haven't played a Skirm in weeks... It's really easy to 'dominate' in Dom: I've got a weekly w/l over 22.00... It's so shiny; I'm afraid of damaging it by running Skirm. How can I get back to my roots? I wanna be 'Dreis the knifer', not 'Dreis the tryhard'... Quick, before the tryhard in me makes me change my mind!!! AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!! 1) Never stop running frog mods, ever 2) Stop playing dom! I'd squad with you all the time if you'd quit playing that cesspool of a game mode 3) Repeat step 1 Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 6998	Posted - 2015.03.15 06:51:00 - [31254] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: You're shotty go bang? Dude now I must really join your corp lol I can learn so much! You'll learn more hanging around the Barbershop than you ever could from me in game. I'm just a numbers guy; there are way better scouts and shooters here than me. Though some of us are just bad MOAR Ladders SpadeGÇª Remember your Warbarge
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 1657	Posted - 2015.03.15 08:12:00 - [31255] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: You're shotty go bang? Dude now I must really join your corp lol I can learn so much! You'll learn more hanging around the Barbershop than you ever could from me in game. I'm just a numbers guy; there are way better scouts and shooters here than me. Though some of us are just bad
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 1657	Posted - 2015.03.15 08:14:00 - [31256] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: These days, I'm running Assault 90% of the time, and Scout 10%. I haven't played a Skirm in weeks... It's really easy to 'dominate' in Dom: I've got a weekly w/l over 22.00... It's so shiny; I'm afraid of damaging it by running Skirm. How can I get back to my roots? I wanna be 'Dreis the knifer', not 'Dreis the tryhard'... Quick, before the tryhard in me makes me change my mind!!! AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!! ehehe. im in a Mmmminmando a lot atm. depends on game mode. have also gone back to my roots somewhat with a shotgun. didnt take long to re-learn pointing that thing in the right direction. marked improvement in kdr running that
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 1657	Posted - 2015.03.15 08:15:00 - [31257] - Quote First Prophet wrote: J0LLY R0G3R wrote: first bid : 100 isk 100.01 isk. ftfy TPLAK <---------- there you go Haerr
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 2321	Posted - 2015.03.15 09:04:00 - [31258] - Quote First Prophet wrote: J0LLY R0G3R wrote: first bid : 100 isk 101 isk. Don't you bloody The Price is Right me m8. No Safety Net. TLDR : XD
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 2321	Posted - 2015.03.15 09:27:00 - [31259] - Quote oh man, when a video game gets ur heart pounding. Craziness. Roaming around solo just exploring the north west tip of map on h1z1. Check a few houses, vehicles, the occasional player base to see if they have a stupid password on the door. Finally come to this pretty large camping area, few cars, campers, trucks. Noticed a pretty fn large player made base right next to the camping ground, decided to risk it anyway. I'm looting these cars and finding stuff so I'm really thinking no one from the base is online, just checking away. Out of the corner of my eye I see 3 dudes running from the tree line. "well crap" among other things go through my head. So I see one has a handgun, one a bow, and the last guy (named hillbilly) a shotgun and a flannel tshirt. All 3 rocking motorcycle helmets. Me with my bow, and handgun with 4 rounds doesn't stand much chance. I bolt out of there making a bee line to some trees, as they get closer I hear (hillbilly) come on the mic saying "don't run boy, we just wanna be friends", "you gonna die tired anyway". He was kinda right lol my stamina bar hadn't gotten back up from the long run I just had taken to get there. I bob and weave as they start shooting, grab some zombie friends on the way and put them between us so they can meat shield. Hillbilly keeps coming on the mic talking about killing me. A great show once told me, "if someone ever tries to kill you well, you try to kill them right back." So that is what I do, I see a house I looted 20 or so minutes ago. Deciding to take my last stand there I run inside shutting the doors behind me. As i'm running up the stairs I hear a vehicle outside pull up and stop. Doors start opening, I hear shotgun shots going off as hillbilly takes out one of the zombies that followed me in the house. Finally he gets to the door of the room i'm in, opens it...and gets a couple bullets straight to the face. XD Take his shotgun and ammo, start reloading it as the other two dudes run into the room shooting handguns off like crazy. I die the end. No Safety Net. TLDR : XD
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 22743	Posted - 2015.03.15 10:01:00 - [31260] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I never seem to encounter focused scanners, even in PC. Are they really that common? Assuming (please correct me if I'm wrong) that you aren't trying to beat scans, how would you know if you have or haven't encountered focused scans? You're wrong. Gallente Guide



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