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Crimson MoonV
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Posted - 2012.07.15 17:30:00 -
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lol at forcing bad controls on people. KB/M is so easy I could put up a 5 kdr in any game if I used my fragnstien against people who are using controllers but wheres the fun in that. Its not even that hard to use a real controller. Adapt or die. I think a 'get good' is in order as well. |
Crimson MoonV
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Posted - 2012.07.15 18:04:00 -
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Geirskoegul wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:lol at forcing bad controls on people. KB/M is so easy I could put up a 5 kdr in any game if I used my fragnstien against people who are using controllers but wheres the fun in that. Its not even that hard to use a real controller. Adapt or die. I think a 'get good' is in order as well. The fun is in the game actually doing what you told it to. I'm glad that you're good with a keyboard and mouse (hence it feeling "easy" to you), you shouldn't have any problem competing then, since you'll switch to a good control scheme and use the right tool for the job. There's nothing fun about fighting against inferior controls, rather than your opponent. It's also not "easier," it simply works better. Calling it easier is like saying that it's easier to peel potatoes with a knife than with fingernail clippers. No **** it's easier, because it's actually well-suited to what you're trying to do, so you're not putting all your time and effort into using a poor tool that's not suited to the task, rather than actually accomplishing the task at hand. We use mice for shooters because they're BETTER for shooters. We use wheels for racing games because they're BETTER for racing games. It's that simple. It's not about "easy" or "hard," it's about using what works best. In your argument, using a controller is like doing a no-consumables run in an MMO, or a zero-deaths run on the hardest difficulty (in any game.) Sure, it's harder to do it that way, but it's purely artificial (that's the whole point: artificially making it harder). It's probably not the best analogy, because doing that stuff legitimately increases the amount of tactics, reflexes and skill you have to have AT THE GAME, though. Forcing poor controls, rather than making the game more challenging, makes simply getting the game to do what you tell it to harder, and for no real gain in terms of achievement or skill. By all means though, you're welcome to get good and adapt or die against those of us using good controls while you stubbornly stick to crappy ones and feel smug. At the end of the day, the better player tends to be the one that comes ahead, not the control interface (unless it's the interface you're less skilled with). The superiority of mice over controllers really only breaks the ties when players of equal skill meet and everything else is the same.
LMFAO The people that use KB/M against console players on console games are the same people that take steroids and then brag about how many home runs they have. I will still wreck you with my inferior controller barry bonds. I don't even need my frag. That is a promise. If you like playing KB/M in fps there are pc games you can play. If you are going to buy a console game with the intention of playing with KB/M then I am going to laugh in your face after I wreck you with my 6 axis.
people who use KB/M against console players are hilarious. One of my freinds in RL does it and its patheticly easy. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.15 18:11:00 -
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Geirskoegul wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Geirskoegul wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:lol at forcing bad controls on people. KB/M is so easy I could put up a 5 kdr in any game if I used my fragnstien against people who are using controllers but wheres the fun in that. Its not even that hard to use a real controller. Adapt or die. I think a 'get good' is in order as well. The fun is in the game actually doing what you told it to. I'm glad that you're good with a keyboard and mouse (hence it feeling "easy" to you), you shouldn't have any problem competing then, since you'll switch to a good control scheme and use the right tool for the job. There's nothing fun about fighting against inferior controls, rather than your opponent. It's also not "easier," it simply works better. Calling it easier is like saying that it's easier to peel potatoes with a knife than with fingernail clippers. No **** it's easier, because it's actually well-suited to what you're trying to do, so you're not putting all your time and effort into using a poor tool that's not suited to the task, rather than actually accomplishing the task at hand. We use mice for shooters because they're BETTER for shooters. We use wheels for racing games because they're BETTER for racing games. It's that simple. It's not about "easy" or "hard," it's about using what works best. In your argument, using a controller is like doing a no-consumables run in an MMO, or a zero-deaths run on the hardest difficulty (in any game.) Sure, it's harder to do it that way, but it's purely artificial (that's the whole point: artificially making it harder). It's probably not the best analogy, because doing that stuff legitimately increases the amount of tactics, reflexes and skill you have to have AT THE GAME, though. Forcing poor controls, rather than making the game more challenging, makes simply getting the game to do what you tell it to harder, and for no real gain in terms of achievement or skill. By all means though, you're welcome to get good and adapt or die against those of us using good controls while you stubbornly stick to crappy ones and feel smug. At the end of the day, the better player tends to be the one that comes ahead, not the control interface (unless it's the interface you're less skilled with). The superiority of mice over controllers really only breaks the ties when players of equal skill meet and everything else is the same. LMFAO The people that use KB/M against console players on console games are the same people that take steroids and then brag about how many home runs they have. I will still wreck you with my inferior controller barry bonds. I don't even need my frag. That is a promise. If you like playing KB/M in fps there are pc games you can play. If you are going to buy a console game with the intention of playing with KB/M then I am going to laugh in your face after I wreck you with my 6 axis. Wow, just when you think the anti-mouse argument can't get any more stupid...
Whatever, I'm not anti mouse. I used to be a PC gamer. I'm anti Mouse vs 6 axis. You are a scrub if you need KB/M to well against people with inferior controls and deep down you all know its true.
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Crimson MoonV
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Posted - 2012.07.15 18:29:00 -
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Its not even hard to use a 6 axis. You are a joke if you need to use a mouse against people with inferior controls. You can have your KB/M. I will still wreck you with a 6 axis all day Barry Bonds. To bad you can't buy gun game with AUR. |
Crimson MoonV
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Posted - 2012.07.15 19:32:00 -
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Geirskoegul wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Its not even hard to use a 6 axis. You are a joke if you need to use a mouse against people with inferior controls. You can have your KB/M. I will still wreck you with a 6 axis all day Barry Bonds. To bad you can't buy gun game with AUR. Use a controller to play House of the Dead, then. See, using ****** controls makes you badass (or just stupid...) Seriously though, you will try to wreck me with your sixaxis, and if you're actually as good as you think you are, we might actually have a fun match. If you're not, I'll win. If you're better than me, you'll win. And thanks to choice in controls, it won't be because of ****** ones determining the victor beforehand. If we're equally skilled, well, I'll gladly take the advantage I have over you by not having to fight against poor controls you have to. Because at the end of the day, that's how it plays out. It eliminates unfamiliar / poor controls as part of the equation, or at least minimizes it. Unless EVERYTHING else is equal, including the actual core skill of the player with their preferred control method, you don't see much difference (other than the mouse user dying a lot less than he would with a controller, because he's not fighting with ****** controls). If everything IS equal, including your relative skill with your controls, that's the only time that you see the mouse advantage being the deciding factor. The rest of the time, it just reduces the amount of frustration and complaining from people that want decent controls (and helps keep people playing your game, since they're not SUFFERING through ****** controls to play). GSP Please hit puberty and learn to make a properly-structured post. Even trying to read that gives me a headache, never mind trying to make any actual sense out of your inane rambling. Please tell me you're a Goon.
The fact of the matter is its 100x easier to use a mouse in fps. If you are using a mouse against console players you have a distinct advantage over everyone else. The average console gamer doesn't even know what a fragnstien is. One of my friends uses a frag for CoD and it is brutal. He has a 10 kdr. He only has that KD because he has a distinct advantage. Its not our fault you can't aim with a 6 axis.
A fragnstien is the difference between a 2 kdr and a 10 kdr. Im not going to lie I have used my frag against console players in the past but it feels like cheating. If you use a KB/M against console players you should have at least a 5 kdr. Anything less and you are garbage. Your garbage if you need to use a mouse against console players period.
You can try and justify anyway you like. The fact of the matter is if you use KB/M vs console players you are the barry bonds of the FPS community.
As I already stated the 6 axis isn't even that hard to use. Get good. Whats that your always telling us. "Adapt or die." No the eve players want to be catered to? Big suprise... |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.15 23:19:00 -
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You don't see me bringing a modded controller to the arcade. The fact of the matter is using a mouse is an unfair advantage and ccp knows this and will nerf kbm users and Im going to laugh in your face when your AR doesn't do **** on the battlefield because you suck with a 6 axis. Adapt or die scrub.
On a side note the game will fail if all the KB/M players are dominating all the console players. Console players will not adapt and buy a mouse. They are going to delete the game off their PS3. This isn't about whining this about actually caring about the future of dust 514. You scrubs that can't aim just want to be catered to. |
Crimson MoonV
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Posted - 2012.07.15 23:36:00 -
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Geirskoegul wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:You don't see me bringing a modded controller to the arcade. The fact of the matter is using a mouse is an unfair advantage and ccp knows this and will nerf kbm users and Im going to laugh in your face when your AR doesn't do **** on the battlefield because you suck with a 6 axis. Adapt or die scrub. Forcing me to use a steering wheel in a platformer is an unfair advantage to the ones used to using steering wheels for platformers. Letting everyone use their preferred control method results in the fairest balance, since it eliminates controls as a factor. And again, you're being intentionally dishonest trying to compare the use of the right tool to improve the translation of what you want to in-game action, to that of using automation to achieve actions physically impossible otherwise (your modded turbo controller).
No. adapt or die. It doesn't matter tbh. ccp is not stupid. They will nerf KB/M users and you will still get worked. because this is a console game and ccp will not give you an easy win. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.15 23:47:00 -
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Aka-ahn wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Geirskoegul wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:You don't see me bringing a modded controller to the arcade. The fact of the matter is using a mouse is an unfair advantage and ccp knows this and will nerf kbm users and Im going to laugh in your face when your AR doesn't do **** on the battlefield because you suck with a 6 axis. Adapt or die scrub. Forcing me to use a steering wheel in a platformer is an unfair advantage to the ones used to using steering wheels for platformers. Letting everyone use their preferred control method results in the fairest balance, since it eliminates controls as a factor. And again, you're being intentionally dishonest trying to compare the use of the right tool to improve the translation of what you want to in-game action, to that of using automation to achieve actions physically impossible otherwise (your modded turbo controller). No. adapt or die. It doesn't matter tbh. ccp is not stupid. They will nerf KB/M users and you will still get worked. because this is a console game and ccp will not give you an easy win. "adapt or die", it's funny how you say that and then refuse to adapt yourself... "but its a console game", yeah, and CCP have said from very early on there would be KB/M support, so yeah, adapt or die...
I have a fragnstien that I used to use all the time. im not a vag though. I don't need an unfair advantage kill people on a console game. Just so you know no one is going to adapt to the point of buying a mouse. They will simply delete the game off their PS3. You obviously don't care about the future of dust. You just want your precious K/BM because you have no gun game. KB/M will be nerfed and you will still be a scrub either way. So yeah adapt or die scrub. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.16 00:00:00 -
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Its not ****** controls you just suck with them so you think they suck. |
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