Osiris Greywolf
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.15 23:12:00 -
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This is basically my opinion that I posted on a different thread but is my take on the situation with a bit of economics and common sense, (I'd give a few quotes except there appears to be to many to count.) allot of you K\bm guys appear to be coming out with you usual fallback, adapt or die. Well, suffice to say, most of the 60 million PS3 users you are talking about will, by simply responding yes to to the question "Are you sure you want to delete", though my point hear is that a lot of you appear to think that thats ok, we will still have a good game, and we don't want cod kids in here playing with us, a stereotype which makes about as much sense as all eve players are people who are unemployed and have no social lives.
All it really takes is a bit of basic economics. The PS3 target market isn't hardcore beta testers, but rather people who incorporate the use of a ps3 into their lives instead of people who incorporate their lives into the ps3. Ergo, one would think that any of the 60 million or so PS3 player would like a game where they actually don't have to spend 60$ to 120$ top of the line Kb\m from Alienware to own. One would also think that considering the fact that people are probably going to research the game and on finding out that to be the best at the game they'll need to get a kb\m, an imput device that a majority of PS3 players are probably going to be alien to for a FPS shooter, are going to be put off.
Now, to counter this, you'll probably say, but it's free, to which I say sure it's free, but do you really think thats going to matter Much if the game receives negativity from the PS3 community, which it will when everyone will complain about Kb\m, which they will, judging from the feedback on the forums.
Another argument being made is that kb\m is the superior imput device for an FPS. This is something that no rational person would argue against. However what I will say, is that that doesn't really matter. A PC shooter, to be successful needs to cater more to Kb\m to be successful, just as a PS3 shooter needs to cater to to Controller users. Why? Because they are the preferred method of imput, and users will stick with their preferred of imput because thats how they interact with a game. To give an out of video gaming industry example, but one that Is perfectly relevant, just look at macintosh and Microsoft when they first split, one used a closed system, and one used an open system, and each got a different set of users.
I could elaborate more, but if you've read this far, your probably getting bored, so I'll leave you there, but if you want me to go on, just ask, and I'll expect that you won't do it nicely. now feel free to misquote me, call me dumb, and tell me to adapt or die, because to be honest, I, like most other PS3 users, won't do either. |
Osiris Greywolf
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.15 23:37:00 -
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Geirskoegul wrote:Osiris Greywolf wrote:This is basically my opinion that I posted on a different thread but is my take on the situation with a bit of economics and common sense, (I'd give a few quotes except there appears to be to many to count.) allot of you K\bm guys appear to be coming out with you usual fallback, adapt or die. Well, suffice to say, most of the 60 million PS3 users you are talking about will, by simply responding yes to to the question "Are you sure you want to delete", though my point hear is that a lot of you appear to think that thats ok, we will still have a good game, and we don't want cod kids in here playing with us, a stereotype which makes about as much sense as all eve players are people who are unemployed and have no social lives.
All it really takes is a bit of basic economics. The PS3 target market isn't hardcore beta testers, but rather people who incorporate the use of a ps3 into their lives instead of people who incorporate their lives into the ps3. Ergo, one would think that any of the 60 million or so PS3 player would like a game where they actually don't have to spend 60$ to 120$ top of the line Kb\m from Alienware to own. One would also think that considering the fact that people are probably going to research the game and on finding out that to be the best at the game they'll need to get a kb\m, an imput device that a majority of PS3 players are probably going to be alien to for a FPS shooter, are going to be put off.
Now, to counter this, you'll probably say, but it's free, to which I say sure it's free, but do you really think thats going to matter Much if the game receives negativity from the PS3 community, which it will when everyone will complain about Kb\m, which they will, judging from the feedback on the forums.
Another argument being made is that kb\m is the superior imput device for an FPS. This is something that no rational person would argue against. However what I will say, is that that doesn't really matter. A PC shooter, to be successful needs to cater more to Kb\m to be successful, just as a PS3 shooter needs to cater to to Controller users. Why? Because they are the preferred method of imput, and users will stick with their preferred of imput because thats how they interact with a game. To give an out of video gaming industry example, but one that Is perfectly relevant, just look at macintosh and Microsoft when they first split, one used a closed system, and one used an open system, and each got a different set of users.
I could elaborate more, but if you've read this far, your probably getting bored, so I'll leave you there, but if you want me to go on, just ask, and I'll expect that you won't do it nicely. now feel free to misquote me, call me dumb, and tell me to adapt or die, because to be honest, I, like most other PS3 users, won't do either. And for all the reasons you're wrong, it won't be an issue. When all else is the same, the mouse will have the advantage, that's what happens when you use the right tool for the job. You're welcome to use it too. No one cries "hax" when you use a steering wheel in a racing game. At the end of the day, most players will have no clue whether the guy that killed them was using a mouse, a DS3, or a Move (though you can bet they'll probably blame mice, given most of the ignorance and FUD the console kiddies have been spreading.) "Baal Roo" wrote:There really is no use continuing this debate. The guys who are used to buying their advantage off of newegg and who want the goofy KBM style game play will likely never understand the concept of preferring a playing field that is as level as possible and leaves the advantages to those who are best at playing the game rather than who can buy the nicest equipment. These are the same type of guys who think modded controllers with macros and rapid fire are legit ways to win at multi player.
KBM game play is twitchy and goofball and overall leads to spazzy unrealisitic gameplay and ridiculously over accurate gun play. It's only "superior" in so far as it takes all of the fun and challenge out of FPS by degrading gameplay to a high speed point and click adventure game. Quite simply, you've no clue what you're talking about, and have never played any of the countless good, tactical shooters on PC. Even PlanetSide, a relatively fast-paced twitchy game, was very heavy on tactics and use of cover. Meanwhile some of the least-tactical, twitchiest games have been console shooters: CoD and Halo spring to mind. Your comparison of the use of a mouse to allow more precise control over actions that are even more precise in real life, to the use of modded controllers to achieve physical impossibilities (turbo button) is disingenuous at best, and absolutely ridiculous at worst. At the end of the day, though, everyone is welcome to use the control scheme they choose to. There's no more level playing field than the one in which everyone gets to make the choice about what they use. All you do by banning control methods is introduce IMBALANCE by forcing people to use inferior, ill-suited controls, and thus expend more effort fighting the ****** controls than actually playing the game. That's not balance, that's a handicap.
No, sorry to tell you, but every time I tell someone that it'll have kb\m support, there reply is, I'm not playing that. As for your racing analogy, that's one of the most UPed analogys ever, a racing wheel doesn't offer as much an advantage was kb\m does. And as for people not knowing whether or not they were killed by a kb\m or Duelshock, your right, but they won't care, because they'll be playing cod, bf3 or rainbow six Patriots.
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