Just because he hasn't posted yet doesn't mean he hasn't looked.

Just because he hasn't posted yet doesn't mean he hasn't looked.

As far as partial respecs/refunds for vehicle related stuff goes, they are on the table. No details yet, but that's because we're still discussing how we want to do it. We will let you know when we've decided how it will go down.

As far as partial respecs/refunds for vehicle related stuff goes, they are on the table. No details yet, but that's because we're still discussing how we want to do it. We will let you know when we've decided how it will go down.

As far as partial respecs/refunds for vehicle related stuff goes, they are on the table. No details yet, but that's because we're still discussing how we want to do it. We will let you know when we've decided how it will go down.

How could they just be on the table? You're adding in a ton of skills. I understand you don't want respecs for the flavor of the month issue, because we all know when those things get nerfed, everybody that uses it is on the forums crying about it. But as I've said many times before, this is a full and complete change to how vehicles work. Some might want to not tank anymore. Some of us probably will need a couple extra million skill points that we threw into various infantry roles back, so we can fill out our tank skills.

please do full respec, some my infintry choices were, bad, and i wont have enough sp for my tank....

As far as partial respecs/refunds for vehicle related stuff goes, they are on the table. No details yet, but that's because we're still discussing how we want to do it. We will let you know when we've decided how it will go down.

Minmatar ship designs typically emphasize speed and firepower, combining agile ship designs with projectile weapon armaments. While the preferred weapon systems of the Minmatar are autocannons or artillery, they make a virtue of versatility and many of their vessels use missiles or drones as secondary weapons. Similarly, the Minmatar take a balanced approach to defense with their ships often being capable of adopting either shield- or armor-based defensive setups. This flexibility makes the Minmatar an unpredictable foe, while their classical tactics of striking fast and hard continue to define their approach to space warfare.

The spaceship design philosophy of the Caldari State has been shaped by their secessionist war with the Gallente Federation and the internecine and subtle warfare that has at times broken out between the Caldari Megacorporations. The result has been an emphasis on technological excellence and efficient designs aimed at multiplying the power of relatively small fleets. Caldari ship designs are strongly geared towards shield-based defense and use either missile or railgun weapon systems. The Caldari space combat doctrines also emphasize powerful electronic warfare systems and their fleets use a number of designs, from frigates to battleships, that are specially optimized for ECM. The ideal for a Caldari fleet commander is to neutralize his opponent with a blanket of electronic warfare while the missile carriers and railgun boats eliminate the enemy one by one.

How could they just be on the table? You're adding in a ton of skills. I understand you don't want respecs for the flavor of the month issue, because we all know when those things get nerfed, everybody that uses it is on the forums crying about it. But as I've said many times before, this is a full and complete change to how vehicles work. Some might want to not tank anymore. Some of us probably will need a couple extra million skill points that we threw into various infantry roles back, so we can fill out our tank skills.

You can't give full respecs for this to pilots, everyone else would QQ MOAR RESPCTS endlessly and I honestly would have to kill myself.
I should think that what makes the most sense (may or may not logistically be easier for CCP, who knows) is the following in terms of respecs all around:

1) This vehicle stuff goes down: Your entire vehicle tree gets reset and SP refunded so you start clean with what is basically a whole new tree.

2) The full line of racial weapons comes out: Entire weapon tree gets reset/refunded, same deal.

3) The line of racial suits comes out: Hopefully you see where this is going....

That way everyone gets a partial and legitimately needed respec when their particular stuff gets reworked, we don't have to deal with respecs every other month, and maybe, just maybe, there will be less QQ.

As for the AV weapons, as a proto swarm user I'm OK with just the SP refund down to whatever level of swarms are left, I can wait for the weapon reset to go all crazy with my SP. Losing just the one weapon doesn't justify changing the whoe thing. Obviously ISK and/or AUR cost of anything taken away needs to be refunded as well, that's just common sense.

I believe the shield tanks shield should be boosted a little bit... why? because sadly it doesn't follow caldari type vehicles if I wanted a hit-and-run vehicle I would be pushing for a minimatar tank.








Now by This I would think we need to revamp shield tanks all together.
look at the bottom of the page to see the source.

Couple of things to keep in mind guys:

AV weapons should also be getting work done to them to bring them in line with the new numbers. Those will be posted at a later date. For now, try to focus on vehicle vs vehicle interactions.

Small arms shouldn't be able to disrupt shield recharging. I don't have the exact number for the threshold off the top of my head, but it should be enough to prevent someone from pinging you with an assault rifle to stop the recharge.

On another note, CCP Wolfman is out of his cave for a short time, so it might be a little while before he pops his head back into the thread. Keep the feedback rolling in though to make sure he's got a nice list of things to talk about when he gets back (and don't worry, there will be enough time for talking when he gets back)

As far as partial respecs/refunds for vehicle related stuff goes, they are on the table. No details yet, but that's because we're still discussing how we want to do it. We will let you know when we've decided how it will go down.

As far as partial respecs/refunds for vehicle related stuff goes, they are on the table. No details yet, but that's because we're still discussing how we want to do it. We will let you know when we've decided how it will go down.

As far as partial respecs/refunds for vehicle related stuff goes, they are on the table. No details yet, but that's because we're still discussing how we want to do it. We will let you know when we've decided how it will go down.

Couple of things to keep in mind guys:

AV weapons should also be getting work done to them to bring them in line with the new numbers. Those will be posted at a later date. For now, try to focus on vehicle vs vehicle interactions.

Small arms shouldn't be able to disrupt shield recharging. I don't have the exact number for the threshold off the top of my head, but it should be enough to prevent someone from pinging you with an assault rifle to stop the recharge.

On another note, CCP Wolfman is out of his cave for a short time, so it might be a little while before he pops his head back into the thread. Keep the feedback rolling in though to make sure he's got a nice list of things to talk about when he gets back (and don't worry, there will be enough time for talking when he gets back)

As far as partial respecs/refunds for vehicle related stuff goes, they are on the table. No details yet, but that's because we're still discussing how we want to do it. We will let you know when we've decided how it will go down.

Man oh man, as long as AV becomes reworked accordingly, this may not be so bad after all.

Will our current SP in the vehicle skill trees be refunded now that the trees are being changed?

not a chance lol

If they take this long to do new models I'd rather just get new vehicles.

A seperate medium air vehicle classified as gunship so it has different fitting slots and turrets (medium?)


edit: thought you said you wanted new dropship models. Nah you're right.
it's early

Couple of things to keep in mind guys:

AV weapons should also be getting work done to them to bring them in line with the new numbers. Those will be posted at a later date. For now, try to focus on vehicle vs vehicle interactions.

Small arms shouldn't be able to disrupt shield recharging. I don't have the exact number for the threshold off the top of my head, but it should be enough to prevent someone from pinging you with an assault rifle to stop the recharge.

On another note, CCP Wolfman is out of his cave for a short time, so it might be a little while before he pops his head back into the thread. Keep the feedback rolling in though to make sure he's got a nice list of things to talk about when he gets back (and don't worry, there will be enough time for talking when he gets back)

As far as partial respecs/refunds for vehicle related stuff goes, they are on the table. No details yet, but that's because we're still discussing how we want to do it. We will let you know when we've decided how it will go down.

This brings me some new hope, thank you. We can only hope you're doing a good work adjusting the AV damage.

So, shields vs armor... (I'm a tanker, I'm able to provide feedback only for tanks)

Shield tanks have even less HP than Armor tanks now... I know the new shield boosters are nice, but I'm not sure if that's enough to balance them.
I might suggest a bit more HP (Shields, not Armor) for Shield tanks. The additional 250 armor points you're giving to the Gunnlogi are pretty useless in my opinion, it would be better to give them to shields.

Shield tanks need to be faster. This is probably the most important point when it comes to tank vs tank, since Shield tanks are weaker.

The armor repper for Armor tanks definitely won't help in battle though, since its repair rate is very low.


The rest seems ok comparing the 2 tanks.